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Steelmage99 wrote:

zilka86 wrote:
I just can't see why people want to play drunk. Where the fun in that. i guess if you like not being able to walk our stand throwing up not talk straight and been mean and a jerk and just generally bad more power to you. not to mention the hangover the next when ur un able to do anything our remember what you did that night. all never play any one who drinks as i want to injoy my games

Do you even read what people are posting? It seems like you are supplying both sides of the conversation, in your head, and then responding to what you made up.

1. Drinking and gaming does not mean getting drunk.
2. Drinking and gaming does not mean not being able to walk or stand.
3. Drinking and gaming does not mean throwing up.
4. Drinking and gaming does not mean being mean and a jerk.
5. Drinking and gaming does not mean getting a hangover or not remembering the night before.

Understand the above points and we can have a constructive conversation about alcohol and gaming. It is quite obvious that you associate ANY kind and any amount of alcohol as being HIGHLY disruptive to gaming, and that might indeed be your experience.
Just realize that your experience doesn't have to the experiences that a lot of adults have.
Based on your use of the English language and your persistent disregard of listening to the Mods concerning your post I can only assume that your are underage. Once your get a bit older your perspective might change.

Try reading Zilka's posts across any board. This is how he is. He has created some threads that have gotten others into interesting conversations, and that's as far as his contribution to these forums go. He will echo the same sentiments he started with no matter what is said.

 Skriker wrote:
If I am the driver to a night out, I'll have a beer when I first get there *maybe*, but then nothiing for the next 3-4 hours and I'll be perfectly sober when it is time to drive home. If the excursion is a short one then no alcohol period.

That's pretty much spot on for the attitude that Scandinavians in general have for drinking and driving. People that have the other attitude are about as rare as you seem to be in the USA They do exist.

 ductvader wrote:

There's a reason Scandinavians have the longest lifespans on earth.

I thought that was Japan?
But I guess we don't do bad either. Reserved attitudes and free healthcare do help, I suppose.

 AWesker1976 wrote:

Edit to add : I do have "issues" with alcohol seeing I work as a nurse and I see first hand the results of most peoples' "have a few beers and have fun" nights.

I also have issue with the majority of posters who claim that unless you are falling down drunk lying in a pool of your own vomit then you are not impaired in any way shape or form. If you have to get buzzed or drunk in order to get your brain/conscience to be quiet about telling you not to do something, then maybe you should rethink what you are about to do.

If you're a nurse and this bad at reading, you're gonna end up killing someone by thinking that doctor's note said grape juice, not saline for the IV drip.

Thud wrote:

 AWesker1976 wrote:

Edit to add : I do have "issues" with alcohol seeing I work as a nurse and I see first hand the results of most peoples' "have a few beers and have fun" nights.

I also have issue with the majority of posters who claim that unless you are falling down drunk lying in a pool of your own vomit then you are not impaired in any way shape or form. If you have to get buzzed or drunk in order to get your brain/conscience to be quiet about telling you not to do something, then maybe you should rethink what you are about to do.

If you're a nurse and this bad at reading, you're gonna end up killing someone by thinking that doctor's note said grape juice, not saline for the IV drip.

Oh-ho-ho! Better check yourself into the burn ward, AW, because that was deep partial thickness burns!

 Warboss_Waaazag wrote:
Thirst?

He eats his fluids. lol

I'll drink whatever i want. I'm fed up of this culture where I have to feel bad about what I do, because it may hurt me.

 Alfndrate wrote:

zilka86 wrote:
Still shocked so many people are say they don't get drunk i thought the point of drinking is to get drunk why i will never touch the stuff i one all the trounys i went to when people are drinking because the can't think straight

While getting drunk is one of the effects of imbibing too much alcohol, it is not the point to throw back a few brewskies and roll some dice.

Now if you had asked, "Why do people get drunk when they drink while playing 40k" I'd have answered, "Because these rules only make sense when hammered.

Or in Space Wolves players case - Mead!

Only drink worth quaffing (remember a third has to be deposited outside the mouth to qualify as genuine quaffing)

Edit: for real our club meets for 18+ members on a Wednesday night in a Mexican Cantina, beer and loaded nachos are the only way to go in that kind of atmosphere

lol - sorry, I only get one image in my head when anyone mentios the word 'cantina'.

Which would be awesome to have a game in

I don't drink. have never so much as even tasted an alcoholic beverage in my entire life.
that said, I don't mind playing with people who are drnking while they play so long as they don't get drunk.
myself, I love to have a full throttle while playing

 EVIL INC wrote:
I don't drink. have never so much as even tasted an alcoholic beverage in my entire life.
that said, I don't mind playing with people who are drnking while they play so long as they don't get drunk.
myself, I love to have a full throttle while playing

Your loss. I'd say enjoying a good stout is something akin to really enjoying an amazing steak. Has a full taste with several different flavour experiences starting from when you first smell it until the aftertaste after swallowing the mouthful.
But hey, you have your reasons and as long as they make sense to you, you should stick to them.
Never be afraid to re-evaluate your values, but always stick to them while they hold true, I say.

 EVIL INC wrote:
I don't drink. have never so much as even tasted an alcoholic beverage in my entire life.
that said, I don't mind playing with people who are drnking while they play so long as they don't get drunk.
myself, I love to have a full throttle while playing

You should probably try some sort of booze, Full Throttle/Energy drinks is just over priced poison in a big can.

I don't drink either - I used to though. I know I'm not missing out on anything by not drinking. I used to spend £40 on a cheap night out - nowadays I prefer to spend my money on grey plastic crack




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 MephistonLoD wrote:

 EVIL INC wrote:
I don't drink. have never so much as even tasted an alcoholic beverage in my entire life.
that said, I don't mind playing with people who are drnking while they play so long as they don't get drunk.
myself, I love to have a full throttle while playing

You should probably try some sort of booze, Full Throttle/Energy drinks is just over priced poison in a big can.

Alcohol is an *actual* poison in a glass/can - thats why if you try really hard you can get alchohol poisoning

My family has a lot of alcoholics in it and I grew up hearing stories of things my family members have done while drinking. Ripping out people's eyes leaving others for dead in alleys (being left for dead in lleys)and so on ad so forth. I am afraid of myself and what I would be capable of under the influence.My personality is that I would drink just to have something to do (you RARELY see me without a can of pop in my hand of close by and I drink it just because it is there. I would also drink till I was not thirsty any more.
So, to me it is a safety issue and at my age, a matter of pride that I have lived my life that way.
Not saying it is bad or 'wrong", just that I know it would be bad for me if I drank.

yes, I know my caffeine habit is an unhealthy vice that might kill me. I figure it will kill me slower and be safer for others. lol

 PredaKhaine wrote:
I don't drink either - I used to though. I know I'm not missing out on anything by not drinking. I used to spend £40 on a cheap night out - nowadays I prefer to spend my money on grey plastic crack




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 MephistonLoD wrote:

 EVIL INC wrote:
I don't drink. have never so much as even tasted an alcoholic beverage in my entire life.
that said, I don't mind playing with people who are drnking while they play so long as they don't get drunk.
myself, I love to have a full throttle while playing

You should probably try some sort of booze, Full Throttle/Energy drinks is just over priced poison in a big can.

Alcohol is an *actual* poison in a glass/can - thats why if you try really hard you can get alchohol poisoning

Blasphemy! Red wine is very good for you and your heart, and Beer has yeast in it... so it has to be healthy It's what you mix your liquor with that can be considered poison.

I'm a teetotaller - I don't drink, smoke nor consume any other intoxicants... except chocolate. I'm still having fun around the table.

 PredaKhaine wrote:
lol - sorry, I only get one image in my head when anyone mentios the word 'cantina'.

Which would be awesome to have a game in

Geez, 10 hours...

At least its not the redone cantina.

 mr_bruno wrote:
Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.

Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.

knas ser wrote:

 mr_bruno wrote:
Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.

Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.

With you there bro, I can't breathe near smokers - I get coughing/gagging fits and a constant need to spit the taste out of my gob :/

 Selym wrote:

knas ser wrote:

 mr_bruno wrote:
Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.

Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.

With you there bro, I can't breathe near smokers - I get coughing/gagging fits and a constant need to spit the taste out of my gob :/

Such hypocrisy in this world. -le sigh-

I reeeally want to pursue this, but it would just lead to a Smokers v. Drinkers debate that I'm not even going to pretend to entertain.

I used to drink soda so much. So long as it wasn't a variety I couldn't stand, if it was in the house, I'd drink it. Going out to dinner at a restaurant? Soda. Going out shopping? Pick up a bottle of soda to drink. Weekly grocery shopping? Pick up a supply of soft drinks that would be best consumed in a week or two but ends up gone after two days. We used to joke that A&W could make a profit supplying a pipeline of root beer to our house.

It ruined my teeth (combined with a total lack of brushing and dentist visits for several years) and may have given me fatty liver disease. I say may have because my last visit to the doctor about my blood tests showed my liver getting worse, and she mentioned that it might be my meds (long term antipsychotic use starting at a relatively young age). The previous thinking was that it was from many years of drinking soft drinks so much that water was like a special treat instead of a normal beverage.

I did manage to switch to tea, and then hot chocolate, but they both keep me up all night - as does soda these days.

The game club I go to when I'm home is in a pub, so there is social drinking going on.
I don't personally, because I'll be driving to the venue, but others do, and it doesn't bother me.
No smoking though, because that's banned in Scotland, and has been for some time.

 Pouncey wrote:
I used to drink soda so much. So long as it wasn't a variety I couldn't stand, if it was in the house, I'd drink it. Going out to dinner at a restaurant? Soda. Going out shopping? Pick up a bottle of soda to drink. Weekly grocery shopping? Pick up a supply of soft drinks that would be best consumed in a week or two but ends up gone after two days. We used to joke that A&W could make a profit supplying a pipeline of root beer to our house.

It ruined my teeth (combined with a total lack of brushing and dentist visits for several years) and may have given me fatty liver disease. I say may have because my last visit to the doctor about my blood tests showed my liver getting worse, and she mentioned that it might be my meds (long term antipsychotic use starting at a relatively young age). The previous thinking was that it was from many years of drinking soft drinks so much that water was like a special treat instead of a normal beverage.

I did manage to switch to tea, and then hot chocolate, but they both keep me up all night - as does soda these days.

You need water, my friend. Most of us do. lol. And I know that sounds like a "OH REALLY?" type of thing, but this is what I'm doing. I'm not buying bottled water because the plastic taints the water, and then your body when you drink it. Drinking soda out of plastic increases this effect even worse. The chemical released is called dioxin (sp?) and it is a carcinogen primarily found in breast cancer. An interesting study not to long ago showed that men in America are showing more signs of breast cancer than women, and that more men drink their sodas out of a plastic bottle. That is what lead to the study on dioxin.

So I'm treating my own water and fortifying it with fruits and vegetables. Now I have healthy water that's almost like medicine in and of itself. Once I get this process streamlined, I plan on giving this stuff away to my neighborhood and seeing exactly how quickly our combined health turns around. So far, it's had staggering results.

Don't buy your solutions from the store. Make them at home.

 TheRedWingArmada wrote:

 Selym wrote:

knas ser wrote:

 mr_bruno wrote:
Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.

Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.

With you there bro, I can't breathe near smokers - I get coughing/gagging fits and a constant need to spit the taste out of my gob :/

Such hypocrisy in this world. -le sigh-

I reeeally want to pursue this, but it would just lead to a Smokers v. Drinkers debate that I'm not even going to pretend to entertain.

Hardly hypocrisy when smoking directly impacts the health of those around it, and drinking does not...

But anyways, when you're at home/with friends, feel free to do whatever brings joy

 TheRedWingArmada wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
I used to drink soda so much. So long as it wasn't a variety I couldn't stand, if it was in the house, I'd drink it. Going out to dinner at a restaurant? Soda. Going out shopping? Pick up a bottle of soda to drink. Weekly grocery shopping? Pick up a supply of soft drinks that would be best consumed in a week or two but ends up gone after two days. We used to joke that A&W could make a profit supplying a pipeline of root beer to our house.

It ruined my teeth (combined with a total lack of brushing and dentist visits for several years) and may have given me fatty liver disease. I say may have because my last visit to the doctor about my blood tests showed my liver getting worse, and she mentioned that it might be my meds (long term antipsychotic use starting at a relatively young age). The previous thinking was that it was from many years of drinking soft drinks so much that water was like a special treat instead of a normal beverage.

I did manage to switch to tea, and then hot chocolate, but they both keep me up all night - as does soda these days.

You need water, my friend. Most of us do. lol. And I know that sounds like a "OH REALLY?" type of thing, but this is what I'm doing. I'm not buying bottled water because the plastic taints the water, and then your body when you drink it. Drinking soda out of plastic increases this effect even worse. The chemical released is called dioxin (sp?) and it is a carcinogen primarily found in breast cancer. An interesting study not to long ago showed that men in America are showing more signs of breast cancer than women, and that more men drink their sodas out of a plastic bottle. That is what lead to the study on dioxin.

So I'm treating my own water and fortifying it with fruits and vegetables. Now I have healthy water that's almost like medicine in and of itself. Once I get this process streamlined, I plan on giving this stuff away to my neighborhood and seeing exactly how quickly our combined health turns around. So far, it's had staggering results.

Don't buy your solutions from the store. Make them at home.

When I drink water, I usually just drink it from a glass and get the water from the tap.

Also, this WHO article:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs225/en/

didn't mention anything about drinking soda or water from bottles being a dangerous source of dioxins. It points to the fat in meat and dairy and fish and shellfish, as well as poor incinerators, volcanic eruptions, forest fires, and byproducts from certain industrial processes.

 EVIL INC wrote:
My family has a lot of alcoholics in it and I grew up hearing stories of things my family members have done while drinking.

I've got alcoholics on both sides (Father and mother's sides). My brother is one. If there's a genetic predisposition towards it, I'm screwed.

All it did was make me more aware of my limitations when it comes to drinking. I will go out, I'll have a couple, but I stop and stick to softer stuff - rigid self discipline probably helps, here. I don't get angry drunk (brother does), I just get sleepy. I haven't actually been drunk to the point of falling over in decades. My limit is usually 5-6 beers in a day (that's 15-16 hours). I'm not a chugger and that's done maybe once a year.

I don't really drink so yeah, occasionally I'll have a puff of something though and I certainly won't tell my opponent off for cracking open a cold one.

Thud wrote:

 AWesker1976 wrote:

Edit to add : I do have "issues" with alcohol seeing I work as a nurse and I see first hand the results of most peoples' "have a few beers and have fun" nights.

I also have issue with the majority of posters who claim that unless you are falling down drunk lying in a pool of your own vomit then you are not impaired in any way shape or form. If you have to get buzzed or drunk in order to get your brain/conscience to be quiet about telling you not to do something, then maybe you should rethink what you are about to do.

If you're a nurse and this bad at reading, you're gonna end up killing someone by thinking that doctor's note said grape juice, not saline for the IV drip.

Be sure to wake me up when you quote someone who actually intellectually defended getting drunk as an activity that should be lauded as "mature".

Selym 565266 6295598 wrote:
Hardly hypocrisy when smoking directly impacts the health of those around it, and drinking does not...

But anyways, when you're at home/with friends, feel free to do whatever brings joy

I'll be sure to tell all those people killed by drunk drivers and their families that it wasn't someone's drinking that impacted their health. They really should let that anti drinking thing go.

 DanFST wrote:
I'll drink whatever i want. I'm fed up of this culture where I have to feel bad about what I do, because it may hurt me.

No one really gives a feth if you drink yourself to death in your own home. The world is just tired of you taking other people with you when you do hurt yourself.

Well its a good thing no one has been advocating getting drunk. Or drinking and driving.

There ya go. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm

I don't think I need to mention incidents of spousal abuse, child abuse, molestation, drunk driving accidents, drunk driving fatalities, bar fights, TMZ flash-cam shots, that entire group of rednecks who drink before dragging a (insert person) down the street from the back of their truck, all the deaths that were incurred through Prohibition, which was the banning of alcohol for all of it's evil done (which alcoholics were so upset about they threw tantrums all across the country until it was legal again)...

no, you're right. Alcohol doesn't hurt people.

And then you know, there are all of those bartenders, strippers, poker players, musicians, comedians, etc. who played at places that let you smoke, who they themselves don't smoke, and then just dropped dead from second-hand cancer. Oh, and continue to drop dead from second-hand smoke in parts of the country that haven't adopted this crock of legislation.

You know what the causes of cancer are? The urea, carcinogens, cyanide, petroleum byproducts and all the other crap they put in cigarettes. THAT is what kills you. Plain tobacco? A little harder to die from. But then let's ignore the fact that the same CO2 coming out of cigarette is dumped out of every combustion engine on the planet at a rate of 500 : 1 OVER cigarettes. But don't let my second-hand bother you're liver hardening while you violently get up to punch me in the face for smoking outside, because that's where you alche's have shoved us.

But then I haven't really been talking about cigarettes, at the start. I was actually referring to cannabis, which has ZERO fatalities in users who did not already have a pre-disposed allergy or took it with something else (like PCP or Cocaine, as common examples). And then we can also ignore all of the history to why hemp is illegal (which has to do with the Paper industry and not health reasons, which are all bogus anyways).

And about the WHO and FAO (who are on-par with each other about a lot of stupid things); those are the same organizations who, under the premise of Agenda 21, have also listed "vitamins" and "nutrients" as "toxins" and "poisons," who also say that food animals must be treated with substandard anti-biotics and animal growth hormones, who also says that GMO's are the only sustainable food sources left on the planet.

Yeah. I'll take my chances with my own treated water. It's been having better results. And on that topic, here are some more links to peruse before I bounce on this topic for getting grossly off topic and doing what I didn't want to do in the first place; particularly because I can already see all the rebuttal propaganda coming now.

"You know better than WHO/FAO?"
"Who da'faq are u!?"
"SCREW YOU POTHEAD!"

Alche's can be so violent sometimes. ;>>

Edit: Before posting actually, lol: Another part of Agenda 21 and WHO/FAO involvement is another program called (ironically being put here) Codex Allimentarius.

Sorry they are all YouTube links. If you want to know more, do your research. That's what I did. So here is just some quick finds. The bottom bunch are from Dick Greggory talking about Now and Then and the ones closer to the top are about WHO/FAO involvment in Codex Allimentarius and Agenda 21.

Keep in mind too, Congress has green lighted both of these programs. So has the UN. This sh!t is happening NOW. Believe me or not, all you have to do is look around to know the truth. But then that's up to you.

And ask yourself this question: Who do you want to believe? A multibillion dollar corporation that doesn't know you exist, doesn't care about you, doesn't even want you interfering with their operations? Or a person that sees suffering and wants better for everyone, himself, his children and all of his species? Because that's the difference between me and Nike or Monsanto or Halliburton or the Presidency or any other monetized operation in the world.

Repeat after me: We are better than this. I believe in you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBRTaxwD3g&list=PLUush1ybdIfOxypEm90ETMUuVOTKZoO6A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GykzQWlXJs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2tgCdQTPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyiCbJ49w5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf8bBgWKugw

Again, its a good thing no one in this thread is advocating drinking past the point of stupidity.

But hey, strawmans and all that.