TheRedWingArmada wrote:
Selym wrote:knas ser wrote:
mr_bruno wrote:Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.
Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.
With you there bro, I can't breathe near smokers - I get coughing/gagging fits and a constant need to spit the taste out of my gob :/
Such hypocrisy in this world. -
le sigh-
I reeeally want to pursue this, but it would just lead to a Smokers v. Drinkers debate that I'm not even going to pretend to entertain.
Where's the hypocrisy? Someone can stand across the table from me drinking shot after shot of tequila for all I care and it wont have the slightest effect on me - I'm not going to be breathing in unwanted tequila (other than vaguely being able to smell it). But if someone is burning something opposite me, ciggie, joint, pipe, whatever, it's going to stink the place up. I'm still going to be able to smell the stuff on my clothes when I leave! I don't see any hypocrisy - just a clear object difference that one thing only affects the person doing it, and the other affects everyone around them. Severe body odour, cigarettes, it's all the same. With the exception that the latter is also actively bad for me to get in my lungs. There's no hypocrisy here.
Automatically Appended Next Post: TheRedWingArmada wrote:Guys. Seriously. Second hand is
not that bad. You breath in more CO2 driving your car with the windows down than you do standing next to someone smoking a cigarrette. Be real. What ya'll don't like is the smell, and we don't like the way ya'll smell either, so get over it.
Bad science is bad.
Firstly, you just made that up. Secondly, CO2 is a regular part of our atmosphere. Cigarette smoke introduces abnormal quantities of carbon-
monoxide. Not Di-oxide (CO2). It also includes numerous other toxins, producing health-impacting tar. In addition, many of us simply don't want to be breathing in addictive substances.
If you don't even know why cigarettes and joints are bad for you, you should really stop promulgating bad information to people. More CO2 driving with your windows down, indeed!
Automatically Appended Next Post: TheRedWingArmada wrote:And besides that, we've made an advancement in smoking! It's called the vaporizor. But you know what? That doesn't produce CO2 or even a smell,
and we are still being bagged on for smoking! Smoking something healthy of all things!! The hypocrisy continues.
Actually, vapourizers still smell unpleasant and blast nicotine around the room. Like someone who keeps chewing sweets and then opening their mouth up close to breath on you. But really, where is the hypocrisy? You understand that hypocrisy means a double-standard? You drinking something has no secondary effect on me. You smoking something does. Therefore smoking bothers me. There's no double-standard here.
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PredaKhaine wrote:Has anyone else noticed now smoking inside is banned that pubs smell of sweat and sick now?
Uh, no. Stop going to Yates'.
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If you drink, then you drink and I don't care. If you smoke, we both smoke, and I do. Not hypocrisy, it's looking after myself.
And your confident assertion that a joint has no negative health effects? Seriously? I mean I'm not some "marijuana is the eevelll" type who has no grasp on what it does and does not do. Hell, a lot of my friends have an occasional joint. But we're older and we're professional and for most it's a rare thing at the end of a party. But anyway, the point is that you are adopting absurd positions in order to justify what you want to justify. There are demonstrated long-term effects from regular marijuana use and yes, it is also carcinogenic. When you find yourself comparing something to cigarettes as you have done, and arguing that someone is not as bad for you as them, you might want to find something else as your baseline of comparison. 'Only as harmful as cigarettes' is a terrible standard to hold things to.
No doubt you'll characterise my post of that as some crazed and uninformed anti-drugs fanatic. Well it isn't, drugs are all around us and I'm not exactly a recluse. But adopting the position of "there are no harmful effects" or even that it will "save your life", is as extreme and misinformed a position as some of the extreme anti-drugs types.
