Whats up with Tuvok

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**chaos0xomega**

scarletsquig wrote:
As unpopular as it may have been, Stargate Universe did a much better job of the ship stranded out in the middle of nowhere concept.

Much more "we're screwed" and cast member deaths going on and a realistic (if not very watchable) mental breakdown of almost everyone.

It even represented aliens quite well, with them being genuinely incomprehensible.. if I recall, one race was held in stasis and no-one could understand them, another was a silicon-based swarm race and the most interesting one was simply a weaponized galactic scale super-AI that had been created to win an ancient war and succeeded in killing off everything in the galaxy.

I liked the Stargate series for a different set of reasons (primarily because they didn't portray the Air Force as worthless and inept, and correctly positioned them as the service with responsibility over the Space domain, nice break from the typical "Space Navy" trope), but I had trouble really getting into SGU for some reason. I wanted to like it, I watched most of the first season, but found myself losing interest... just so many poor choices made by various characters for seemingly no real reason other than that it was convenient to the plot, made a lot of the characters and storylines hard to take seriously.

**FirePainter**

Regarding Kirk: You all know what TOS stands for right? The Original Space-Western. I mean come on how many lines were there about Phaser number 2.

Spock: the colonists only have phaser number 1

Kirk: Yes but we have phaser number 2 so lets go kick some alien ass. And you missy will wait in the most revealing clothes until I get back.

Bones: Dammit Jim, I'm a man not a plaything. (substitute angry greenblooded comment)

**Compel**

The problem I found with SGU was, aside from about 3 episodes, it was so completely terrible, then by the time season 2 came round, they had fixed the worst bits but it was then too late for the show to be salvaged.

DS9 remains the only Star Trek I have ever purchased, yet I own every episode of SG1 and Atlantis.

Most Star Trek episodes just aren't that rewatchable.

**frgsinwntr**

Deep Space 9 is excellent... except for the first 2 seasons...

TNG is great..., except for the first 2 seasons...

Voyager had a great start... then all of a sudden the concept of 2 crews on 1 ship.... disappeared? And they only ever really added 2 alien crew : (

didn't watch enterprise...

**AduroT**

I liked SGU, but not as much as SG or SGA. U was a little too heavily trying to copy BSG I think, but not doing a good enough job. To me the worst crime of U was it being canceled caused the SGA movie to get canceled as well.

**AegisGrimm**

It sucked that Stargate Universe ended so early, it dragged in parts, but it has such a cool ending episode.