Jihadin wrote:
Well are we done with "Oreo" vs "November" slurs? In my former line of work either those words regardless who says it I slam. 14/14 Non Judicial.
Now though I am interested with the Texas governor race being the guy in the wheelchair vs the Lady with chuckleheads and a questionable background....I'm betting the guy in the wheelchair will take it.

 sebster wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Texas Governor's.

Democrat: 39
Republican: 6
Other: 2

You've fallen in to the trap of assuming politics are unchanging, and that an election in 1936 means anything for future elections.

I don't agree with dogma's statement, but the actual reasons for disagreeing are because there was a recent Democratic victor, you do get blue party governors in red states and vice versa as they cater their message to local state politics, and Texas demographics signal a slow shift towards Democrats in the next decade or two.

But your argument that just lists the history of governors and ignores the shift in Texas politics and what the actual meaning of Democrat and Republican is over time... that's not a good argument.

 Ouze wrote:
This is a good point. A really good point, even. I think I will personally endeavor, going forward, to avoid doing that.

 djones520 wrote:
I'm not really making any argument. I just posted some numbers. You can take what you want from them.

 Jihadin wrote:
PC reference for the "N" word is "November" in my book. I try to instill it in those of who I command and train. "N" word is like finger pointing that in my perception is "okay at times not okay at times" November is the hand point statement of "Don't F'ing do it.". What might be okay to say in the real world will get crushed in the Military.

 cincydooley wrote:
Wasn't the governor before Dubya a Lady Dem? I can't remember.

I swear Dubya had a Blue Lt Gov, too. Lemme check.

 cincydooley wrote:
So I just did some reading about this Wendy Davis character.

1) she's pretty darn attractive.
2) It sounds like this whole "rose through poverty" speil she's pitching to women and minorities is actually a case of pretty hefty gold diggerism.
3) her platform actually makes her seem fairly Libertarian.

Interesting stuff, Texas.

 Jihadin wrote:
Think that would a personnel attack on her. How and why she lost custody of her kids more likely from a ugly divorce. Going after her on that would turn out a lot mothers voters towards her.

Russell began working at age 14, selling newspaper subscriptions for The Fort Worth Star-Telegram, working at an Orange Julius, and waitressing at her father's restaurant.[13][7] During high school, in May 1980, she moved in with her boyfriend, Frank Underwood, a construction worker, when she was 17.[14][15] In May 1981, Russell graduated from Richland High School in North Richland Hills, Texas. She became pregnant with her first child, Amber.[14][15] On January 24, 1982, when she was 18, Russell married Underwood in response to the pregnancy.[14] In the late summer of 1982, after Russell had turned 19, she gave birth to Amber, her first daughter.[14] She also separated from Underwood at age 19[16] and continued to live with Amber.[14] In December 1983, Russell filed for divorce when she was 20.[14] On May 22, 1984, the divorce became official when she was 21 years old.[15] On January 20, 2012, in a federal court case on redistricting, Russell said in her testimony, "I got divorced by the time I was 19 years old".[12][13][15] She said in her speech announcing her bid for Governor in October 2013, "By the time I was nineteen, I was already on my way to divorce".[17] In January 2014, Davis admitted to Dallas Morning News there were inaccuracies in her description of her early life used to pitch herself to voters. She stated, "My language should be tighter. I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail."[14][15] According to the newspaper, Davis became a single mother when her divorce was finalized at age 21, not 19.[14][16]

Russell attended University of Texas at Arlington for one semester, but had to stop attending due to a lack of money.[4] Russell worked as a waitress at her father's Stage West Theatre café four nights a week while working as a receptionist in a pediatrician's office in the morning.[8] While working as a waitress for her father's restaurant in 1983 at age 20, Russell was introduced by her father to Fort Worth lawyer and former city councilman Jeffry R. Davis, who was 14 years her senior.[15][11][4] Russell and Davis "dated two or three years"; then married on May 30, 1987 when Russell was 24.[15] They remained married for over 18 years and Davis would ultimately adopt Russell's daughter, Amber.[15][4] Russell enrolled in a two-year paralegal program at Tarrant County Junior College, attending from 1984 to 1986.[13] Russell and Davis settled in the historic Mistletoe Heights neighborhood in Fort Worth. [15] After Tarrant College, Russell started attending Texas Christian University in 1986.[13] Their daughter Dru was born in September 1988, while Wendy was still attending TCU. In May 1990, she graduated from TCU at the top of her class, with a Bachelor of Arts degree in English.[6][18] Wendy moved with her daughters to Lexington, Massachusetts to attend Harvard in the fall.[4] After the first semester, her daughters returned to Texas to live with Jeff Davis and with Wendy's mother helping to care for them.[4] Wendy flew back to see her family when she could for the remainder of her degree.[4]

Jeff Davis helped pay for Wendy's last two years at TCU and her education at Harvard Law School from 1990 to 1993.[15][14] In 1992, Jeff Davis took out a 10-year loan to help pay her tuition. In August 2013, Vogue reported that Wendy recounted how they cashed Jeff's 401(k) to pay her tuition[19] and the New York Times reported that his 401(k) and the loan he took out helped pay for tuition and rent in Massachusetts.[20] Jeff later stated he also took out his 401(k) because some of his investments were affected by the market downturn.[21] In January 2014, controversy emerged about her statements that she paid for university by scholarships, grants, student loans, and working multiple jobs; rarely mentioning Jeff's financial contributions.[14][21][16]

At Harvard, she volunteered at a legal clinic for the poor, where she helped AIDS patients write living wills and surviving partners with their legal rights.[11] In May 1993, she earned her law degree with cum laude honors.[22][23] She was admitted to the State Bar of Texas in November 1993.[24]

In November 2003, with 15-year-old Dru still living in the house, Wendy moved out.[4] In January 2014, Jeff Davis was reported as saying she moved out around the time that the final payment on the law school loan was due, saying, “It was ironic. I made the last payment, and it was the next day she left.”[16] When the divorce settlement was finalized in 2005, the former couple shared "joint conservatorship" over Dru, who primarily lived with Jeff in the family home.[25] In the divorce settlement, Jeff was given the "right to designate the primary residence" of Dru and Wendy agreed to pay $1200 a month in child support.[25][4] Both parents retained the right to decisions about Dru's other needs.[25] Amber was a young adult in college the time of the divorce.[25]

 whembly wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
PC reference for the "N" word is "November" in my book. I try to instill it in those of who I command and train. "N" word is like finger pointing that in my perception is "okay at times not okay at times" November is the hand point statement of "Don't F'ing do it.". What might be okay to say in the real world will get crushed in the Military.

Dude... that's interesting.

Do folks really say the word "November" instead of the "N" word?

That's like me saying the word "BAD WORD!" when I stub my toes in front of my kids.

 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

It seems that this is NOW an issue 'cuz Nugent is campaigning with Texas Republican Greg Abbott.

Dontcha think?

Abbot is running for governor in a state that will never elect a Democrat.

So, no. Nugent's statements are just that reprehensible.

 cincydooley wrote:
Wasn't the governor before Dubya a Lady Dem? I can't remember.

I swear Dubya had a Blue Lt Gov, too. Lemme check.

 easysauce wrote:
Your argument is basically that its ok for the left to call the right a doo doo head, but its not ok for the right to call the left a super doo doo head.

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

More importantly, the vagaries of her divorce decree are hardly relevant to her qualification to be governor. I mean there is weak sauce, and then there is this.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

More importantly, the vagaries of her divorce decree are hardly relevant to her qualification to be governor. I mean there is weak sauce, and then there is this.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

More importantly, the vagaries of her divorce decree are hardly relevant to her qualification to be governor. I mean there is weak sauce, and then there is this.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

More importantly, the vagaries of her divorce decree are hardly relevant to her qualification to be governor. I mean there is weak sauce, and then there is this.

I'd normally agree, but a mother losing custody of her kid to someone that isn't the biological father screams, in bright red lettering, "CHARACTER PROBLEM," and I think we can all agree that at the root of it all, we would all like to have high character people in office, regardless of their political affiliation.

Hey Texans: Would you mind elaborating a bit more for us why Davis' campaign is imploding? Like I said, based on her 'platform' she seems like someone that would actually find some happy moderate ground, and would especially appealing to libertarians.

 Frazzled wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
He says she says. This is off Wiki. The Divorce Decree might actually be sealed per judge order.

More importantly, the vagaries of her divorce decree are hardly relevant to her qualification to be governor. I mean there is weak sauce, and then there is this.

I'd normally agree, but a mother losing custody of her kid to someone that isn't the biological father screams, in bright red lettering, "CHARACTER PROBLEM," and I think we can all agree that at the root of it all, we would all like to have high character people in office, regardless of their political affiliation.

Hey Texans: Would you mind elaborating a bit more for us why Davis' campaign is imploding? Like I said, based on her 'platform' she seems like someone that would actually find some happy moderate ground, and would especially appealing to libertarians.

She's not a moderate though. Her statements have changed since she started running for governor - aka the Mitt Romney problem. The abortion thing, the OC thing. Frankly her big claim to fame was protesting an abortion law that was equal or less conservatie then most of Europe. This is why you should be governor???
She has no experience or qualifications.

Side bits.
Her people were found at a convention of making fun of wheel chair bound Abbot
Her big coming out debut was only permitted to be shown by one lefty network, immediately infuriating all the other press here and starting a Twitter War between her people and several reporters.

I'm not Abbott fan but come on, please tell me this is not the best the Democrats can come up with. Richards would be turning over in her grave to see whats happened to her party.

She is the only one that has a chance.

She is no Ann Richards, that's for sure, but I think she'll be better than Abbot...

Really though, It's not going to matter that much who gets elected Governor. Texas pretty much runs itself, the governorship doesn't have near as much power as in a lot of the states. If Rick Perry can do it, then anyone can.

 d-usa wrote:
We've had calls for murder because a band said that they were ashamed to be from the same state as Bush...

 Jihadin wrote:
People are so heavily influence by celebrities and bands makes me laugh in a good way

Every dictator or even demagogue — almost every film star or [rock star] — can now draw tens of thousands of the human sheep with him. They give themselves (what there is of them) to him; in him, to us. There may come a time when we shall have no need to bother about individual temptation at all, except for the few. Catch the bellwether, and his whole flock comes after him.

 cincydooley wrote:
I'd normally agree, but a mother losing custody of her kid to someone that isn't the biological father screams, in bright red lettering, "CHARACTER PROBLEM," and I think we can all agree that at the root of it all, we would all like to have high character people in office, regardless of their political affiliation.