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 Lynata wrote:
^ Agreed!

Personally, I found the voices just a tad repetetive (there's only two voice actresses, but they speak multiple roles), but I really liked how they made the Tech-Priest's talk sound. Very inspiring, in an RPG kind of sense.

Also, it's a continuation (or rather, a prequel) of Miriya's story, which should be reason enough to get it for anyone who likes SoB.

Eeh... unless you're an SoB fan who dislikes Miriya, anyway...

@Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl: Oh no I know lynata enough that I'm pretty sure he/she doesn't mind me. I'm just joking around. We're kind of friends sorta so I'm just joking but mildly serious. Trust me horse tranquilizers might be nice for me right now. My back pain is pretty intense from the sprain I had days ago at work. I just figure it'd be a nice way to calm down like any pill you take for severe pain.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Well, it is 40k, so I expect bionics to be grimdark and horrible looking and stuff.

Eh, probably depends on who gets them, and for what purpose. I'd expect there to be a difference in quality between the millions of "guy looks like a servitor" Administratum clerks, and the well-supplied holy warriors of the state-church.

And it depends on what we would regard as "horrible looking". A shiny chrome port affixed to your skin? Phht.
Like I said, I've gotten used to the Shadowrun look, and it doesn't disturb me nearly as much any more.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Seems I used the first definitions of those links, you used the last one.

Yeah. Sorry, where I work I'm just used to people being aware of both.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:And I do not expect the Sisters to be naked in their armor, just like nobody was naked under plate armor. I am pretty sure they wear cloth under the ceramite.

Now that you mention it, I remember I once theorised a sort of bodyglove underneath, anyways. After all, GW sources described the armour to work by electrically motivated fibre bundles, so personally I'm imagining a Fremen-style "rubber" suit with fibreglass tubes worked into the material. If you look real close at the minis, you can see something like this between the armour joints, and it fits to the pinclose-up of Ephrael Stern in Daemonifuge Book 2.

Now that I think about it, that was the one thing that bugged me about the fan-art I described earlier, with the lamenting Sister ripping off her armour. Not the nudity, but that she apparently wore nothing under the plating. /nitpick

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:His chest is covered, only his arms and head are actually exposed. How the hell do you call that naked?

The guy in the background, behind the two dudes in the front.

And a nitpick: Yours is a Repentia, not a Battle Sister, and I do not consider it "naked" if the breasts are still covered.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:How often do the chaos space marines fight grey knight? Would that be a good explanation for asking about no grey knights fighting chaos marines artwork?

GKs are Anti-Daemon specialists. Personally, I'd imagine CSMs and Daemons to not be that uncommon - even the pathetic excuse that SoB now have as a Codex features one such encounter in what supposedly passes for a "famous battles" section. The 1st Battle of Armageddon, arguably one of the more important events in the setting's timeline, had hundreds of GKs fight against CSM before they engaged Angron.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Keeping just one shoulderpad of the power armor? Why? Just why?

Judging from the appearance of the cloak, it could be the Mantle of Ophelia. If so, it is a badge of office (explaining its use by a Canoness(?) who is otherwise naked), and the pauldrons are a part of it. See the Inquisition Illustrated Guide, which has several images of Sororitas relics.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:This is one influence.

Personally, I think it is the most prominent one. The monastic culture, the tenets of their religion, even their hierarchy.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Telling people to calm down and then propose them to use horse tranquilizers seems like a good way to infuriate them. Let us keep the discussion nice and civil, please!

Heh, well, he kind of has a point still. It was late at night, I had a rather busy day/evening at the office, and I can be quite stubborn in my interpretation of the Sororitas, at least the parts where I'm actually convinced of something making sense.
Though this probably goes for a lot of fans who are passionate about the background of their favourite army.

It's one of the reasons I try to refrain from posting in the background section nowadays - it's no use due to the forum's short memory/attention span, the vast gap between people's conflicting preferences (just look at Ashiraya's comments here or in her stigma thread), and because officially we're all equally right/wrong anyways.

So, apologies for having engaged in this lengthy and rather pointless exchange of opinions. I should have known better, but I'm still trying to change.

flamingkillamajig wrote:Regarding abhumans and some other genetic alterations or bionics how do the sisters view it?

Abhumans are definitely a tricky thing. Sisters are about purity, and the source material even describes them doing surprise raids on other Imperial institutions to conduct tests and simply kill anyone they consider a threat to the human gene pool. Even Space Marines are often looked at with a certain amount of scepticism because of their abhuman traits by the Ecclesiarchy as a whole, though there is a grudging respect between them and the Sororitas in terms of each others' battle prowess.

Bionics probably depends on the extent and quality, and how you interpret the Sisters' concept of the Sacred Human Form. We know they use cybernetic replacements (the Canoness mini has an artificial eye), but given the aforementioned "angelic representation" I believe they'd avoid anything that moves too close into the AdMech's territory of appearing more machine than (wo)man.

Arguably, the Repentia are an exception in this angelic representation (see the image that HSOO posted), but I am of the opinion that the vast majority of them never make it back into the fold anyways, even though officially the possibility exists. 99.9% will simply find martyrdom in battle, and if they're lucky they actually kill someone first rather than just being gunned down as they charge the enemy.

flamingkillamajig wrote:Over-the-top can be nice but a lot of 40k feels either emo or like a 8-12 year old narrating a story.

Depends on where you look, tbh. I mean, the points you listed are what eventually drove me away from Space Marines (with two exceptions), but the setting is fortunately larger than that. Even though GW tends to forget this from time to time.

I think I'm just more of a sci-fi person. I like fantasy, and occasionally delve into it (I'm having a Dragon Age P&P campaign right now, and I played the WHFRPG a couple years back), but even though there are some aspects to the setting that I like, it just doesn't seem as fascinating as a whole.
The choice was made easier by the possibility of just transplanting everything you like in WHFB into WH40k. Feral and Feudal Worlds ftw!

Furyou Miko wrote:Eeh... unless you're an SoB fan who dislikes Miriya, anyway...

@lynata: Even if your sisters haven't been shown proper love with a new codex or their own lives ;P at least it's better in ways than what they do to imperial guard in the fluff. I used to love the imperial guard but they're the punching bags of 40k. People talk about how the best chaos marines can do is sometimes kill off eldar (what I heard from one complaint) and that they aren't as good as space marines for some reason. In the fluff with the last guard codex half of our noted battles were losses. In our own codex. The one before that never showed a single win against anything that wasn't traitor guard, orks, eldar, possibly cultists or some minor faction that needed purging. Our last codex had one noted event of a successful cavalry charge against necrons where we won to everybody's surprise including the guardsmen and the embarrassed necrons if they had emotions back then. We had no noted victories against the tau (though there is a loss where plenty of tau were taken down and a ratling killing an ethereal once by chance), few against eldar, a bunch versus orks, some against splinter fleets of tyranids and not a whole lot else other than traitor guard and cultists. There was probably a few battles where they did do a decent amount and they just usually needed a bajillion guard regiments to do it. In some cases it's like needing 50,000 men to 500,000 men just to handle like 100 chaos marines and we'd still lose.

So I dunno imperial guard or whatever the h*ll they're called these days are updated regularly though the current codex rather made me want a tempestus scions army than a guard army (though they lack options so it's a no go even if they look sexy). I really just want fluff where we beat every faction at least once. I don't think guard have ever been noted to beat tau even once. It's always like a heroic last stand where we get gunned down to a man. It's frustrating. I hate losing all the time whether in the fluff or in the actual game. It's not fun hearing your army suck in some way.

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On the deal with fantasy you don't have skaven in 40k (hrud aren't rat-like anymore), you don't technically have vampires or the undead mechanic (I know there are necrons but they don't totally count), there are no dwarfs (squats are all dead), no ogre army (though there are ogryns) and you have no beastmen since they got taken out. To be fair fantasy doesn't have tau but I don't totally see the need with dwarfs and empire filling that void nicely enough. Some armies are pretty nasty at shooting too even if it's less important in fantasy for the most part.

Uhm, you seem to be missing the point about Guard, jig.

The fact that they bring billions of troops to every battle is a selling point. Its not showing the Guard as weaklings, its showing that they bring overwhelming force.

As for the Tau... do you know how many armies have had a major fluff victory against the Tau?

Two. Dark Eldar and Necrons. Everyone else only mentions the Tau as friendlies or when the Tau are wiping them out.

Anyway, you think regular Guard have it bad? They have victories. They have plenty of victories. Do you know how many fluff victories the Elysian Drop Troops have had? In every single mention of the Elysians ever made, they have had zero war victories. Battles? THey win the occasional battle. But they have not won a single war, even though they always deploy either with the assistance of, or to come to the assistance of, Space Marines.

As a Space Marine, the last thing you ever want to hear is "We've diverted the Elysian Xth regiment to assist you."

Even if you're winning the war and don't actually need help, having an Elysian regiment sent to support you is a death sentence.

Yeah, I think the Guard comes across quite nicely in GW's fluff. They are the most important (and the only truly necessary) military force of the Imperium. Even the Space Marines need them, simply because sometimes raw power > mobility. You just have to embrace that in the projection of this raw power, they often take an incredible amount of casualties as a price to pay for victory. But they have these victories, and quite a lot of them. They have stories, they have characters, and they are the second best-described and most-supported army in the game.

In my opinion, the casualties also make their appearances more realistic, and the Guard as a whole more relatable - whilst supporting the Grimdark atmosphere of the setting.

And Codex Planetstrike mentions a Catachan Guardsman strangling a CSM Lord to death. How cool is that?

Really, those complaints I can't understand.


As for all the WHFB stuff ... you can have all of this in 40k. Because the setting features millions of worlds, out of whom only a fraction have ever been described. Who exactly is going to say that there isn't a planet of skaven-like intelligent rodents out there? Or a primitive Slann offshoot that resembles Lizardmen? You want undead? Plague Zombies! Vampires? Slaaneshi psykers who like the taste of blood and are obsessed with eternal life. Let the creative juices flow!

Hey now, let's not forget the Imperial Navy that schleps the Guard around...

Well to be fair I've only read mostly the guard book. I find it incredibly stupid that only a few armies seem to have any noteworthy victories against tau (you'd think nids have a few and I think orks once had one victory though I may be mistaken) though I do think it's awesome dark eldar managed one. Haven't heard much on dark eldar killing but maybe that's because they are rarely seen. I remember one ridiculous mention of space marines owning dark eldar though. It seems to happen quite a bit. Speaking of which dark eldar are awesome. I have a few of them on hand and if I got back to 40k I'd get more semi-new dark eldar models.

I wasn't aware of the catachan guardsman strangling a CSM lord to death.

For me my favorite guard regiment are the vostroyan firstborn mostly due to aesthetic but sometimes due to victories. The something-dragoons fought tau a lot if I remember. They sounded cool too. If nothing else I'd just love to model a guardsmen junior officer/platoon commander chainsaw-ing a fire warrior in two in a diagonal arc while shooting him as well with a laspistol and then showing some horribly scraped and cut battlesuit behind him. I also might want to show an xv-9 just spitting out death in a slow tremendous walk while a guardsmen sits scared out of his mind behind a rock right next to it.

Well I know it's about numbers and that that can eventually do anything sorta but against nids sometimes it doesn't help. They talk of marines taking down whole hive fleets like behemoth if I'm not mistaken. For imperial guard we just get beaten by everybody. I almost feel like whenever somebody talks about a story with imperial guard and themselves beating the guard it's just like "Oh who cares we've all beaten guard." Then again I suppose at least guard didn't get beaten by the 'doom of malantai'. We did get killed by the parasite of mortex or whatever it was called though. Ugh just when you thought you'd win the other side pulls something out their *ss to win with though it is their book so whatever.

Marines taking down whole hive fleets was the entire empire of Ultramar, and it was a pyrrhic victory.

Basically the entire western arm of the Imperium were set against Behemoth and the only reason the Space Marines are given the 'win' is because the final battle happened in the skies over Maccrage.

Anyway, the Guard have a good balance of wins and losses - but weighted to the losses to show how the Imperium as a whole is crumbling and on the verge of collapse. If anyone outside a Sisters-specific publication mentions Sisters, its to have them die horribly to show how awesome the villain of the week is.

There's no reason why you can't make a model of your Vostroyan slaughtering some Tau. Just because there are no major engagements between the two in the written fluff doesn't mean they've never fought.

The Dark Eldar 'victory' against the Tau was rather amusing. You see, the Tau were really struggling against the Tyranids in this one battle, and the DEldar showed up and said, "We'll kill them all with you, in return for three cadres of Fire Warriors!"

The Tau being the Tau said "okay!" and... gave them three cadres of fire warriors, then watched the DEldar armies slaughter the 'nids.

Of course, then they were faced with an army of Haemonculous-designed monstrocities made out of the Fire Warriors they'd handed over. If you want to hear more, you should talk to Ovion - he's all over that stuff.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Oh no I know lynata enough that I'm pretty sure he/she doesn't mind me.

He, or she? Or anything in between? Just ask Lynata and be done with this mystery .

 Lynata wrote:
I'd expect there to be a difference in quality between the millions of "guy looks like a servitor" Administratum clerks, and the well-supplied holy warriors of the state-church.

Me too! But I expect high quality bionics to be grimdark too.

 Lynata wrote:
A shiny chrome port affixed to your skin? Phht.

No, that seems pretty clean and nice. I am speaking real grimdark here . An oily brass port, maybe. With purple, sick skin around it or something.

 Lynata wrote:
The guy in the background, behind the two dudes in the front.

Yes, that is the one I am talking about. His chest is covered by metal. Look closer, you should see it too.

 Lynata wrote:
And a nitpick: Yours is a Repentia, not a Battle Sister, and I do not consider it "naked" if the breasts are still covered.

A repentia is a battle sister, and there is nothing covering her breast. You can even see the nipple!
I am talking about the one with the hole in her head, just to be clear.

 Lynata wrote:
Judging from the appearance of the cloak, it could be the Mantle of Ophelia.

Uh. Stop trying to rationalize things that make basically no sense.

 Lynata wrote:
So, apologies for having engaged in this lengthy and rather pointless exchange of opinions. I should have known better, but I'm still trying to change.

But I felt that was nice. You know, trying to make a sound argument, to get my idea together, to debate on some not really important topic for the fun of it…

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
We had no noted victories against the tau (though there is a loss where plenty of tau were taken down and a ratling killing an ethereal once by chance), few against eldar, a bunch versus orks, some against splinter fleets of tyranids and not a whole lot else other than traitor guard and cultists.

You had Macharius crusade. I do not think a lot of people can beat that. Well, there is the great crusade from the Emperor .

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Yes, that is the one I am talking about. His chest is covered by metal. Look closer, you should see it too.

Nnnnnope, can't say I do.
It's a Neophyte getting turned into an Astartes - why should his chest be covered in metal? He's got tubes and various medical equipment stuck into his belly and chest. You can even see his bellybutton.
I think you may just be mistaking his Adonis-like physique and perfectly sculpted abs for a breastplate.

The Repentia, on the other hand, has her breasts (and nipples) covered by a strap of parchment - similar to "Miss Chains 999.M41" in the front. You can see it best just below her armpit, to the right of the small black tube.
And I was specifically asking for a Battle Sister, not a Sister of Battle. There is a difference.

... still, man, why couldn't the minis look more like that picture~

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:But I felt that was nice. You know, trying to make a sound argument, to get my idea together, to debate on some not really important topic for the fun of it…

I dunno, the whole exercise was basically just a long and exhaustive cycle of "this makes no sense" "yes it does".

Didn't really help either of us.

Lynata is just she-man (he-man) or fe-man (female) of maternia (eternia).

"By the power of '13 shades of grey' skull !!!"

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Sorry I had to get that out of my system. I also find it kind of funny you said "Miss Chains 999.M41". Is this like a beauty pageant now like a miss America contest or miss universe contest? Why do they call it miss universe anyway? I like the futurama and similar jokes where they include other alien species.

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Yeah we did have the macharian crusades but he had like a bajillion guardsmen and it was modeled after alexander the great somewhat. Of course the fight ended with all the generals vying for themselves just like in real life. I dunno I'm just kind of tired of hearing space marines so much. They're like 12 year olds in power armor. I also prefer to imagine they were castrated upon entry like a monk order normally would do.

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I am kind of curious lynata if you're male or female. For a while I thought you were female but then I'm not totally sure. You play more female characters and seem to stand by arguments that seem female sided more. I think that would suggest you're female. Then again I have met somebody on here that was transgendered so it's a rather confusing topic.

You don't have to share if you don't want to but I am curious after all this time not being told for sure. I can understand the apprehension if you are one though since most find it easier to be a guy online or at least not state gender. Not entirely sure why a guy would do that though but there might be a reason even if I can't think of one.

 Lynata wrote:
You can even see his bellybutton.
I think you may just be mistaking his Adonis-like physique and perfectly sculpted abs for a breastplate.

I colored it to make the details stuck out better. And really, if you can see the belly button but there are no nipples, something is wrong here .

That certainly does not look organic to me at all. That seems clearly some kind of metal thing that is used to do whatever technomagic on his chest..

 Lynata wrote:
The Repentia, on the other hand, has her breasts (and nipples) covered by a strap of parchment - similar to "Miss Chains 999.M41" in the front. You can see it best just below her armpit, to the right of the small black tube.

What are you talking about? Those black lines are scars, and we see her nipple!
Illustration:

There is no parchment either on the breast of the leftmost repentia, but we do not see her nipple.

Very good you have 'super magnified nipple vision'. We're all very proud of you . Jeez is it that important? I was more disturbed on the visible nips on the slaaneshi (since it's a family store) before I found out they were dude nips and was even more horrified by the halfway down the middle. That said we find male nips less lewd and really the only big deal is that women boobs are used to feed babies. Then again it's not like men go topless everywhere. Wish it could be that way for women sometimes but then you have the old person nudity and other unwanted nudity. Maybe I'm just too American to get it. I heard a Nordic dudes say that nudity is more a sense of expression and freedom and I totally can not understand. He was actually offended by my perverted nature regarding stuff like topless beaches. I realize it a bit how it can be free but how is the beach a non-perverted place when boobs are everywhere.

Sorry for the rant but I'm just curious. You European folks seem to be way more liberal than the U.S. so I just can't understand.

I rather hate censorship. It ruins everything. Speaking of which I heard germans had robots instead of people in the first command and conquer and lots of the stuff was given fake names where they'd have been more real supposedly. Perhaps lynata can shed some light on his/her home country?

Regarding the thread's title: No.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I rather hate censorship.

Nobody is arguing for censorship. And symbols of nazism are forbidden in Germany, hence an heavily modified version of the “Wolfenstein” games, for instance. I also think I remember about the government being pretty though against violence in video game back then. Maybe that explains the command and conquer stuff.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:I colored it to make the details stuck out better. And really, if you can see the belly button but there are no nipples, something is wrong here

You can't see nipples because they are covered by tech-stuff.
Artificially altering the image to be more suggestive towards a breastplate will not make me interpret the original piece differently either.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:What are you talking about? Those black lines are scars, and we see her nipple!

And the skin between those pitch-black(?) scars just happens to be in an entirely different shade/colour, too? And those black scars are unique and exclusive to this one Repentia, and only on this one body location which just happens to surround her breasts?
No, I'm not buying it.

I guess these things are something we'll just have to agree to disagree on, too.

flamingkillamajig wrote:I am kind of curious lynata if you're male or female. For a while I thought you were female but then I'm not totally sure. You play more female characters and seem to stand by arguments that seem female sided more. I think that would suggest you're female. Then again I have met somebody on here that was transgendered so it's a rather confusing topic.
You don't have to share if you don't want to but I am curious after all this time not being told for sure. I can understand the apprehension if you are one though since most find it easier to be a guy online or at least not state gender. Not entirely sure why a guy would do that though but there might be a reason even if I can't think of one.

Oh alright. I already mentioned it elsewhere on dakka, anyways, and other posters know it from Teamspeak or address exchanges. I'm male!

I registered with this name on a different 40k forum many years ago just because I played SoB, and this was the name of my HQ (a Palatine). I didn't think too much about it, and eventually resorted to use the same name on other 40k websites for recognition value.
But I admit that, over time, I was getting fascinated by the different treatment that some few people displayed towards this persona (I've never had this occur anywhere before joining dakka), and perhaps began to treat it like some sort of experiment. And it may well be that this has "sensitised" me towards the issue of sexism, which I had pretty much ignored or dismissed before simply because of not being as acutely aware.
Don't get me wrong, now - I don't want to make dakka sound like a horrible place for girls, and it was really just a small minority of users. But part of me still chuckles at how, say, certain users attempted to use my alleged gender to discredit my posts. It's probably better not to give any names, but most people in this thread probably know who I'm talking about.

This has nothing to do with my preference towards female RPG characters, though - for most character concepts I just find a woman to be more refreshing/intriguing, specifically because badass heroines are few and far between in movies and games. That's at least part of why I eventually settled on Sisters of Battle, though. Like many other 40k gamers, my very first minis were a Tactical squad of Ultramarines.

Interesting. I suppose I'm ok with it. It actually makes things less weird. You've still been there for me unlike a bunch of other people. I'll admit I'm confused you seem to take the more female side of arguments as a male though. I can't say that I go that specifically rather than I want or seem to want equality with both sexes. That said I kind of did clean up my language a bit when I thought you were female which is why I stopped with the umm ugh 'masked dildo' villain with the flaming dildo arrows that I told you about earlier. It also confuses me because I expect guys to not be too bothered by the more scantily clad women.

If you ever say part of this is because you have sisters i'll tell you I have a sister and half sister but I find them to both be a pain to live with and controlling which I may have unrightfully extended my opinion of them to other women. To be fair they help me I just never want an over-bearing woman that always tells me what to do. I think people often mistake a woman which is dominant for one that has to be a b**** or at least in movies and other things. I think a good version of a dominant woman was in fallout 3 with 'Riley' of 'Riley's Rangers'. It's her outfit of mercenaries and she calls the shots even if she did hit a rough spot with the super mutant horde at one point. You can still be a leader without being super aggressive or b****y though. It's about having a presence without forcing things on people. Sometimes people have a presence that others look up to and maybe that's a good thing.

As for me on the subject of space marine models owned I have no space marines except for some grey knights which I got before the ward codex. You know as much as everybody hated what he did to them they really needed an update. They lacked a lot of options and had no real answer to fighting vehicles except very limited vehicles. It's a big deal when space marines are updated enough to make grey knights (super marines) which weren't look crappier on the tabletop. I still have like 5-10 grey knights somewhere if I can find them. I guess it's an army I tried starting and never got around to and dark eldar may fill that role soon enough.

Also gotta admit you have good taste with the 'shadowrun' series.

That said this is going far off-topic and I think i'll continue it in a PM where it belongs if you even read those anymore ;P.

 Lynata wrote:
You can't see nipples because they are covered by tech-stuff.

The whole torso seems covered with tech-stuff to me, hence my point. You spoke about abs, but I do not see any. Certainly none “perfectly sculpted”. I am interested in second opinions, how do other dakkaites interpret the image?

 Lynata wrote:
Artificially altering the image to be more suggestive towards a breastplate will not make me interpret the original piece differently either.

Well, I zoomed, and used coloring to make the different markings on the maybe-chest stand out more than dark gray on light gray. I also used that to show where I thought the metal started and ended. You are very welcome to color the image to show me what you think is flesh, and what you think is metal. Because there is just no denying that the groin in covered by metal, for instance. Unlike my repentia examples .

 Lynata wrote:
And the skin between those pitch-black(?) scars just happens to be in an entirely different shade/colour, too?

You know, I thought about it, and I think the black above is the shadow from her armpit, and the black below is the shadow from the breast itself. But I may be wrong. I would like second opinions on that too .

 Lynata wrote:
But I admit that, over time, I was getting fascinated by the different treatment that some few people displayed towards this persona (I've never had this occur anywhere before joining dakka), and perhaps began to treat it like some sort of experiment. And it may well be that this has "sensitised" me towards the issue of sexism, which I had pretty much ignored or dismissed before simply because of not being as acutely aware.
Don't get me wrong, now - I don't want to make dakka sound like a horrible place for girls, and it was really just a small minority of users. But part of me still chuckles at how, say, certain users attempted to use my alleged gender to discredit my posts. It's probably better not to give any names, but most people in this thread probably know who I'm talking about.

I should try that!


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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
It also confuses me because I expect guys to not be too bothered by the more scantily clad women.

Well, I am a guy too, you know .

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Uhm, you seem to be missing the point about Guard, jig.

The fact that they bring billions of troops to every battle is a selling point. Its not showing the Guard as weaklings, its showing that they bring overwhelming force.

As for the Tau... do you know how many armies have had a major fluff victory against the Tau?

Two. Dark Eldar and Necrons. Everyone else only mentions the Tau as friendlies or when the Tau are wiping them out.

Anyway, you think regular Guard have it bad? They have victories. They have plenty of victories. Do you know how many fluff victories the Elysian Drop Troops have had? In every single mention of the Elysians ever made, they have had zero war victories. Battles? THey win the occasional battle. But they have not won a single war, even though they always deploy either with the assistance of, or to come to the assistance of, Space Marines.

As a Space Marine, the last thing you ever want to hear is "We've diverted the Elysian Xth regiment to assist you."

Even if you're winning the war and don't actually need help, having an Elysian regiment sent to support you is a death sentence.

To be fair, Airborne infantry aren't meant to win wars. They are meant to capture/destroy key targets to allow the advancement of the main force. Examples in real life would be destroying artillery firing onto the beaches of Normandy, capturing Carentan and Operation Market Garden.

As for the Tau... do you know how many armies have had a major fluff victory against the Tau?

The Orks have several major victories against the Tau (and Eldar, and Astartes, and Sororitas and Dark Eldar and Mechanicum...) in the New Codex

Quite fun to read - even if its pretty flawed as a Codex.

 Melissia wrote:
Regarding the thread's title: No.

I whole heartily disagree.

I think my story was awesome.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Regarding the thread's title: No.

I whole heartily disagree.

I think my story was awesome.

Me two

Thats why I linked your story - but I think it got lost in the very involved debate about the nature of sisters and their depicition in artwork and minis (that figurs not cars)......

Oh look here it is again:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/547273.page

Plus also awesome:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/586311.page

1. Bolter B-Word Privileges: Ginevra begins her Novitiate, the hard way.
2. Ollanius Pius Requiem: Novice Ginevra encounters the Imperial Guard. There is singing.
3. Able Baker: Expect some sort of Inquisition.
4. The Beginning: Every Sister's story begins with tragedy... and paperwork.
5. Dancing with the Astartes: The finale, involving the galaxy's nicest Space Marine, a shopping trip, and permanent scarring. (This story)

 Mr Morden wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Regarding the thread's title: No.

I whole heartily disagree.

I think my story was awesome.

Me two

Thats why I linked your story - but I think it got lost in the very involved debate about the nature of sisters and their depicition in artwork and minis (that figurs not cars)......

Oh look here it is again:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/547273.page

Plus also awesome:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/586311.page

1. Bolter B-Word Privileges: Ginevra begins her Novitiate, the hard way.
2. Ollanius Pius Requiem: Novice Ginevra encounters the Imperial Guard. There is singing.
3. Able Baker: Expect some sort of Inquisition.
4. The Beginning: Every Sister's story begins with tragedy... and paperwork.
5. Dancing with the Astartes: The finale, involving the galaxy's nicest Space Marine, a shopping trip, and permanent scarring. (This story)

Like a musical? Is it like 'the sound of music' or 'fiddler on the roof'. "The hills are alive with the sounds of purging (screaming)." *screams in the background*

Sorry not sure what you are asking

I would hugely recommend both set of stories - they are great check them out.

If you mean the Singing in the Novice story - its not a happy thing............

Yeah it was the 2nd one and yes I was joking a bit.

Also just wondering what's that Warhammer fantasy fiction about (the one in your signature, A bloody Road)?

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Yeah it was the 2nd one and yes I was joking a bit.

Also just wondering what's that Warhammer fantasy fiction about (the one in your signature, A bloody Road)?

Not to totally derail the thread but:



But if you do want really good Sisters of Battle stories and characters - do check out the stories I linked

flamingkillamajig wrote:I'll admit I'm confused you seem to take the more female side of arguments as a male though. I can't say that I go that specifically rather than I want or seem to want equality with both sexes.

In my opinion that is the same thing.
Like I said, it hasn't always been that way, but I suppose my "epiphany" is a result of some of the stuff I had to read on dakka, coupled with sheer coincidence: a budding interest in female heroines due to rarity, and the "underdog" role of women trying to defy traditional gender roles. Half my squad during my time with the German Air Force were girls, too, and being deployed together with them kind of created a bond whose memory makes me feel a bit sad for humanity every time I witness unequal treatment.
I suppose you could say I'm some kind of a "white knight" due to a rather high sense of idealism. Which is a bit ironic, really, because I tend to be incredibly cynical. Then again, the cynicism may just be a result of said ideals clashing with the reality of our current world.

Anyhow, just read this, maybe it helps!

flamingkillamajig wrote:Also gotta admit you have good taste with the 'shadowrun' series.

Thanks!

flamingkillamajig wrote:That said this is going far off-topic and I think i'll continue it in a PM where it belongs if you even read those anymore ;P.

I actually read every PM I get, but I'm bad at regular correspondence.

One of the reasons for why I think dakka ought to have a chatroom!

Yeah but just because the world is a certain way doesn't mean it can't change or that you can't enjoy things despite the bad.

It kind of sucks though since outside of school my social interaction has gone to crap. In a way it's good just for getting you to interact with others even if the bad is included.

I don't hate women so much that I don't like anything that they tend to like. Seriously I'm trying to like them for reasons other than sexual ones but in general I don't find any women that think like I do or at least have interests like video games. I'm actually kind of sad that few women seemed to play actual video games or at least these days. I'm also a lot pickier than I seem to be. I'd figure a decent looking girl that's a gamer with some common ground would be nice but I just can't find one (chances are the rarity allows them to probably date guys that'd normally be out of their league otherwise as I've heard happens with military women sometimes). I should get out more.

Anyway I'm seriously de-railing this thread so i'll go more on topic.

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You can always join my forum lynata (the one in my signature). I have a couple friends that visit once in a while and post and they often mostly talk about 40k. Sure it's a skaven forum but we often don't talk about that. Prayers to the horned rat that we get a new army book soon.

The offer is still up for talking in a chat room or a form of messenger system if you're up for it. I know that you think electronic words and numbers are the devil so you purify them by burning your computer but you shouldn't be so afraid to socialize a little even if just online.

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More on topic I read a bit of the sisters of battle fan-fiction with shopping and scarring (mental and physical). What I read of it was decent though some bits of it felt weird and out of place for 40k.

If we're talking bad fan-fiction I think somebody somewhere wrote a fan-fiction of melissia and some other female member of another forum. It may have been melissia that wrote it (if not I might ask the writer to seek help if they did so without the other forumite's permission). It had lesbian moments and was rather weird. I'd rather not talk about it.

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Just....

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This. This is why I hate humanity.