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Biloxi, MS USA

 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2014/12/06 00:31:03


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 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose

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 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.

   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 Hordini wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.


Jihadin's actually correct on this one. Movie productions(at least in the US) aren't, by law, allowed to use accurate and full uniforms.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/12/06 01:28:44


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 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.


Jihadin's actually correct on this one. Movie productions(at least in the US) aren't, by law, allowed to use accurate and full uniforms.


No, that's not true. It's a rumor I've heard a lot of people repeat, but it's false.

Edit: Here's a source, it's under (f).

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/12/06 01:33:29


   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 Hordini wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.


Jihadin's actually correct on this one. Movie productions(at least in the US) aren't, by law, allowed to use accurate and full uniforms.


No, that's not true. It's a rumor I've heard a lot of people repeat, but it's false.


If it's a rumor, it's one perpetuated by the movie industry and the military. I've heard it multiple times from military personnel who've worked in and on movies.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/12/06 01:34:21


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 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.


Jihadin's actually correct on this one. Movie productions(at least in the US) aren't, by law, allowed to use accurate and full uniforms.


No, that's not true. It's a rumor I've heard a lot of people repeat, but it's false.


If it's a rumor, it's one perpetuated by the movie industry and the military. I've heard it multiple times from military personnel who've worked in and on movies.


I've heard it a bunch of times as well, and it's wrong. Check my edit, I posted the US legal code involving it. Hollywood just tends to often jack up uniforms in some way, and because of that people have started assuming it's because they "have" to, but that's wrong.

   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 Hordini wrote:
Spoiler:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
In the US it is lawful to wear the uniform, rank, and awards of any branch of the armed forces and even to to represent yourself as the same. If you want to pretend to be a Brigadier General or one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you're free to do so unless you attempt to gain something of tangible value from doing so.


It's not technically legally allowed, but doing so is not a criminal offense:

10 USC § 771 - Unauthorized wearing prohibited
Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps.


Why those actor in uniform are so out of reg's for a purpose


That's just the costume department not doing their due diligence.


Jihadin's actually correct on this one. Movie productions(at least in the US) aren't, by law, allowed to use accurate and full uniforms.


No, that's not true. It's a rumor I've heard a lot of people repeat, but it's false.


If it's a rumor, it's one perpetuated by the movie industry and the military. I've heard it multiple times from military personnel who've worked in and on movies.


I've heard it a bunch of times as well, and it's wrong. Check my edit, I posted the US legal code involving it. Hollywood just tends to often jack up uniforms in some way, and because of that people have started assuming it's because they "have" to, but that's wrong.


Yeah, I saw it, you posted before I could address it.

Looking into it, the Supreme Court also ruled that the "does not discredit" part impedes their First Amendment right. Interesting to know.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=398&invol=58

2. The words "if the portrayal does not tend to discredit that armed force" in 772 (f) impose an unconstitutional restraint on freedom of speech and must be stricken from the section to preserve its constitutionality. Pp. 62-63.

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They don't have to follow that law, but I imagine that the military doesn't have to work with any studio either. So I guess that there is some "enforcement" of the law that way...

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 d-usa wrote:
They don't have to follow that law, but I imagine that the military doesn't have to work with any studio either. So I guess that there is some "enforcement" of the law that way...


It'd be easy to look up the regulations or get a prior service member to be a consultant though. The only reason Hollywood messes it up is because they don't put the time or the work in to do it right.

   
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In dress uniforms of military branches the Order of Precedence" of ribbons are wrong
In Field Uniforms its something that a actual NCO would harp on to another soldier

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 Jihadin wrote:
In dress uniforms of military branches the Order of Precedence" of ribbons are wrong
In Field Uniforms its something that a actual NCO would harp on to another soldier


In what?

   
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 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!


Back in the day when I was a victorious soldier in Task Force Smith in my capacity as CaptainSgt. I turned back those russian T34's with a Bazooka....

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I actually really like Heartbreak Ridge, but there are more problems with it than the uniforms. A career Marine who won the Medal of Honor but can't get promoted past Gunnery Sergeant? Yeah, okay.

   
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Not catching it eh
Count the rows

I use Clint as an example. So if there is a Marine out there who can tell us is the Order of Precedence of the ribbons are correct

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 Jihadin wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!


Back in the day when I was a victorious soldier in Task Force Smith in my capacity as CaptainSgt. I turned back those russian T34's with a Bazooka....


Puss. I used a bayonet with a broken tip and well packed snow balls.


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 CptJake wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!


Back in the day when I was a victorious soldier in Task Force Smith in my capacity as CaptainSgt. I turned back those russian T34's with a Bazooka....


Puss. I used a bayonet with a broken tip and well packed snow balls.



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 Bromsy wrote:
 CptJake wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!


Back in the day when I was a victorious soldier in Task Force Smith in my capacity as CaptainSgt. I turned back those russian T34's with a Bazooka....


Puss. I used a bayonet with a broken tip and well packed snow balls.



Real men use sharpened e-tools. Lot easier to get back.


Should have gone with the classic "et-tool". I heard that so many times and just....why. Why.

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 Bromsy wrote:
 CptJake wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Bromsy wrote:

Yeah, civvies are worse. I was a fobbit and proud (don't be mad 'cause I got a good ASVAB score ) but the fish stories comparison is apt. Of course, don't completely make stuff up; you're 30, I don't think you went into Grenada.


I had a good ASVAB as well.... It sure helped me out LOADS in 'Nam!!


Back in the day when I was a victorious soldier in Task Force Smith in my capacity as CaptainSgt. I turned back those russian T34's with a Bazooka....


Puss. I used a bayonet with a broken tip and well packed snow balls.



Real men use sharpened e-tools. Lot easier to get back.


Seriously.....an E-Tool...weak.....



Now that's a man and tank killer right there

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So they teach Army Rangers these days to walk around shopping malls and make smart phone videos to post on YouTube so they can get lots of hits...maybe get on Bill O'Reilley for an interview?

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I don't know. Seeking fame by way of embarrassing people wasn't part of my military training.

The guy who made this video, tailor made to make himself out to be a hero or something, is a douche. The the guy playing soldier may have serious mental health issues, for all we know.

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 jasper76 wrote:
I don't know. Seeking fame by way of embarrassing people wasn't part of my military training.

The guy who made this video, tailor made to make himself out to be a hero or something, is a douche. The the guy playing soldier may have serious mental health issues, for all we know.


Army?

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no. that's quite simply wrong. the guy who made the video wants this guy shamed, not fame or whatever. and honesty, I strongly agree with him.

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 Jihadin wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
I don't know. Seeking fame by way of embarrassing people wasn't part of my military training.

The guy who made this video, tailor made to make himself out to be a hero or something, is a douche. The the guy playing soldier may have serious mental health issues, for all we know.


Army?


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 jasper76 wrote:
I don't know. Seeking fame by way of embarrassing people wasn't part of my military training.


Have you ever met an NCO?

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
no. that's quite simply wrong. the guy who made the video wants this guy shamed, not fame or whatever. and honesty, I strongly agree with him.


Yes, because shaming people is a noble passtime.

It should immediately occur to you that the subject of the video may have incredibly low self esteem, and is trying to get some positive attention by exploiting our country's largely irrational worship of military personnel...in other words, this guy might need help, not ridicule.

IMO, this is internet bullying plain and simple. Whoever posted this video should do some soul searching as to why he felt the need to do so.


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 DarkLink wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
I don't know. Seeking fame by way of embarrassing people wasn't part of my military training.


Have you ever met an NCO?


OK, change "people" to "civilians" in my sentence.

Actually, I don't get your point. Are NCO's know for seeking personal fame or something?

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The top badge is a Combat Infantry Badge. Yetman badge indicated three awards
major issue here. Convo is best description on earning a Combat Infantry Badge

Yetman’s uniform has three CIBs, or Combat Infantry Badges. Initially he tells the veteran he received all three of his CIBs in Afghanistan.

“You know you need to be in three different campaigns to get three CIBs, right?” Berk says.

Yetman then changed his answer, saying he received one CIB each during two tours to Afghanistan and another from a stint in Iraq.

“You know, no matter how many [tours] you do, you can only get one,” says Berk.


Read more at http://www.youngcons.com/caught-on-tape-man-wearing-fake-ranger-tries-to-get-black-friday-discount-gets-called-out-2/#FcHYxfHlrdxKFObd.99

Iraq and Afghanistan falls under the same theater

Also no combat patch but Yetman said he gave it to a kid.....
Also Yetman took advantage of military discount for his material gain which is illegal

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