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All I can say about the game is that I have had some of the original developers inside my house. That and I play 40k with some of them weekly.

Also for the nth time, there is absolutely no connection between Whitebox and Relic. The number of people claiming that its taking away from a potential DoW 3s development is absurd. It's largely coincidental that there are two Vancouver based video game developers that make 40k licenced games. (Also Darkest Dungeon on the theme of grimdark games, but I digress).

I am excited for Battlefleet Gothic Armada though.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You don't have to pay to the play the character you want in HotS either.

You might have to play a free toon and earn some gold to buy it, but it takes no time at all to crank it out.

You have to grind for hours. I dare you to get enough in-game money in less than 2 hours to get the character you want.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
You don't have to pay to the play the character you want in HotS either.

You might have to play a free toon and earn some gold to buy it, but it takes no time at all to crank it out.

You have to grind for hours. I dare you to get enough in-game money in less than 2 hours to get the character you want.

Already done man.....

I loaded up the game and had 10k gold in about 2-2.5 hours, bought the guy I wanted.

Then moved on and leveled up the other free toons for that week and bought another guy.

You get Gold for each match, win or lose. You get Gold for reaching level 5 on a toon. You get Gold at different levels for your account and each toon.

It takes no time at all.

I won't even mention that you can spend like, $12 and get the Starter Pack that gives you 5 toons and a Stimpack boost that increases Gold and XP gain by 50% for 7 days.

You've either never played HotS, or it kicked your puppy and you hate it. As far as grind games go, it's got nothing on MANY games out there. It's easy to pick up and comparatively cheap in the genre. You can pay like, $40-$50 and get packs that have 5-6 Heroes, 4-5 Skins, and 2-3 Mounts.

Compare that to this abortion where you pay $125 for what is basically a Skin given a Heroes name. Hell even if it IS a Hero, why would I pay TRIPLE of what HotS charges for 1/10th the content?

Face it, this game is pure garbage in the MOBA arena.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You get Gold for each match, win or lose.

10 or 20 iirc. Then you get one mission a day that require between 2 and 5 games to complete and that gives you between 200 and 500 gold. I wanted to play Sergeant Hammer and Johanna. Those combined cost 17000 gold. A match last about 20 minutes…
I'll let you do the math.
Yeah you get some extra gold at the beginning because you level up your account level and hero level. But once you reach some point, hero level will go up VERY slowly.
So, after I unlock Sergeant Hammer, if I want to get more money to unlock Johanna, well, I basically NEED to play other heroes instead of sergeant hammer so I can get gold from the quest and leveling those new heroes.
You either grind your characters, or buy them. Contrast this with Strife, where you get access to all characters right away. How many month of non-stop play would it take to unlock ALL heroes in HOTS?

 TalonZahn wrote:
You've either never played HotS, or it kicked your puppy and you hate it.

I do not hate it. I just acknowledge the mechanics it use to keep you playing it. Honestly, I like HotS better than Dark Nexus and LoL, and I like Strife better than HotS.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Compare that to this abortion

Abortion? Are you super-overeacting, or what?


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Also did I mention that Strife is awesome?

10 or 20 if you play the AI. Jump into Quick Match and you get at least twice or more of that. Even more if you team with friends.

Dailies are 200-800.

We're not talking about Strife compared to HotS, we're talking about HotS compared to Nexus.

All F2P games have a grind somewhere. Every. Single. One.

Nexus is a cash-grab pile of shovelware crap.

 TalonZahn wrote:
10 or 20 if you play the AI. Jump into Quick Match and you get at least twice or more of that. Even more if you team with friends.

Dailies are 200-800.

We're not talking about Strife compared to HotS, we're talking about HotS compared to Nexus.

All F2P games have a grind somewhere. Every. Single. One.

Nexus is a cash-grab pile of shovelware crap.

no grind in dota2

Can you play this on a normal PC?

 TalonZahn wrote:
All F2P games have a grind somewhere. Every. Single. One.

Nexus is a cash-grab pile of shovelware crap.

Dark Nexus may be a shovelware, but it does not seem to have any kind of grind. Deal with it, because facts are not going to change to accommodate you.
And again, I am not saying I like Dark Nexus. I am saying it is a completely different game from HotS and some people may like things about it that Heroes do not have.

So you compare it to HotS, bitch about HotS, then say it''s completely different from HotS.

I guess you win the discussion

Congratulations.

Ashiraya compared it to HOTS. Here:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I don't see why I should play this when Heroes of the Storm exists. The ONLY thing this has on HotS is that it is 40k, and it needs to feel more 40k to sway me (and even then it just... falls behind too much).

HotS is also free.

I answered.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I don't see why I should play this when Heroes of the Storm exists.

Because it is a completely different gameplay. I do not see why I should play Heroes of the Storm when Strife exists, and in Strife or Dark Nexus I do not need to grind for hours or pay money to get to play the character I want to play!

See, I said it right in the beginning…

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Ashiraya compared it to HOTS. Here:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I don't see why I should play this when Heroes of the Storm exists. The ONLY thing this has on HotS is that it is 40k, and it needs to feel more 40k to sway me (and even then it just... falls behind too much).

HotS is also free.

I answered.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I don't see why I should play this when Heroes of the Storm exists.

Because it is a completely different gameplay. I do not see why I should play Heroes of the Storm when Strife exists, and in Strife or Dark Nexus I do not need to grind for hours or pay money to get to play the character I want to play!

See, I said it right in the beginning…

And the bolded part is what started this, and I corrected you. You gave incorrect/bad info about HotS as a comparison to Nexus.

Now you're just playing semantic games trying to use implication and infferance tactics to dodge.

I'm done, bitch at me in PM's if you want.

I had to grind for hours to get my Heroes characters. It literally took hours before I could unlock Sergeant Hammer, and even more hours to get Johanna. In Dark Nexus I could just choose any hero I wanted. My information was 100% correct.

I tried it because it has a Sisters of Battle Retributor character, played for about 2 hours to see if it was redeemable but alas... it's another shovelware title.

Game Studio: -Hey GW, if we give you some money can we create a piece of gak cashgrab title that will trick a few gullable kids into paying money for some in game stuff and once the profit has been made we'll abandon the game.

GW: -That's a great idea! It's just like our own business plan!

-Hey GW, if we give you some money can we create a piece of gak cashgrab title that will trick a few gullable kids into paying money for some in game stuff and once the profit has been made we'll abandon the game.

Kids don't even hear about small/medium games, they are all about Call of duty. The same way they will never hear about BlackScorpion or BrotherVinni.

Those cheap licensed games target 20-40 yo gamers who allways have 15$ to "try" on a game, just to see if it's worth.

Of course it is not, but, "see, another game, maybe this one will be ?"

eflix29 wrote:
Those cheap licensed games target 20-40 yo gamers who allways have 15$ to "try" on a game, just to see if it's worth.

Nope, because it is possible to play for free. Honestly, I am pretty sure they are trying to make a good game. It's just hard.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Honestly, I am pretty sure they are trying to make a good game. It's just hard.

I wouldn't say it's hard to make a good game, like everything in life it comes down to if you have enough money to create what you envision. Problem is none of studios that pick up a GW license these days have the resources to create something good.

Not enough money to hire enough/good artists, writers, programmers, producers, sound specialists, musical creator...

Instead they all follow one of two formulas:
1. Make it as cheap as possible and because funds have run out release it 6months before it would actually have been finished.
2. Take a game you've already created, change dogs/cats/pigs/jewels/coins etc into Space Marines and call it done.

There is one game I think would be pretty awesome though if it got the reskin treatment and that's Battlefield X.

It's dead Jim.

40k's first bit of abandonware it seems. Hope none'a y'all spent lots of money on preordering skins and whatnot.

They couldn't have had more ambition like Overwatch and tried to make an FPS in the Cammoragh arenas? Would be a perfect way to add new heroes in and get some cool first person looks.

As it is this is just another lazy moba license cash in. It's cool to see the Dark Kin get some spotlight time it's sad to see it here.

Edit
Dead in only a year. So my gut reaction was right. Hahaha.

I had a hunch this would happen. partly because MOBA's are viewed as the current "big and easy cash grab" video game.

the new BFG game is great though. and the potential to get better

I'm also enjoying Freeblade for the past 4 mths or so. It has replaced my Clash of Clans time.

I must say that this really doesn't tickle my fancy at all. I suppose props for trying...

1. Tell me about that bony alien thing that pops out of a hole please
2. Dark Eldar nabs orks?

I'm sad for the folks who worked on this game who likely lost their jobs, and for the folks who bought into this game early, but I can't say I feel like I'm missing out. The game didn't look good to begin with, even for a MOBA.