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 Ghazkuul wrote:
I wouldn't mind that upgrade that much, but as I said, every upgrade offered so far and every example has been imperial, does that mean that my KMS should cost 5pts instead of 10?

BTW as an example of why pistols are so expensive.

KMBs have twice the range and are 5pts a model
KMS are the pistol version and are 10pts a model.

Why? because you get the +1 attack in CC. thats the only reason I can think they would increase the cost.

Well, that's insane pricing.

....That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

The part about Kustom Mega Blastas costing half as much as the Pistol version, that is.

I mean, seriously? Why would a pistol- that due to its shorter range would be fired far less often- be twice as expensive as a proper gun?!

You don't buy pistols because you want bonus attacks- the free pistol is just as good for that purpose. You buy pistols so you can get that little extra bit of shooting in before you charge stuff.

So I would absolutely say that Kustom Mega-Sluggas should cost only 5 points if the KMB costs that. Even considering that Plasma Pistols currently cost 15 (way too much) and should cost 10, Orks have such terrible BS and so little opportunity to leverage a good pistol like that, that it's mostly fine, IMO.

About where I think it would sit best is ~7 points for either a KMS or a KMB- the pistol variant trades range for non-shooting utility, and vice versa in respect to the Blasta variation. Considering that both are single-shot weapons with respective tradeoffs, it seems perfectly fair for them to cost the same amount.

7 points is also a little less than half a current Plasma Pistol, and still less than a (properly costed) 10 point Plasma Pistol, and would also reflect the lower capability of an Ork to actually kill things in shooting without massive shot volume.

its a moot point anyway, the only KMB in my army is on my Morkanaut, I try not to bring anything that has the "gets hot" special rule with my orks. To many chances to F*ck my day up with those silly weapons, plus when you look at the stats, Orks have a 2/6th chance of hitting and a 1/6th chance of blowing themselves up with a "Gets Hot" weapon.


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ohh side note; KMKs are not silly they are awesome and I love them

Cypher can use his pistols profile in CC and I love him for that! 2 plasma shots and 2 bolt pistol shots WS 10 something to think about

WS7 iirc