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As a note, North America has yet to get their EtS games, but most of EU has. Or at least should have in Feb.
Thanks for that link!
The human characters look REALLY good - and as it was done by Ludo Fact, that probably bodes well here too.
Those aren't production models, they are prototype resins or possibly even 3D prints. Notice the post was made close to a year ago, they didn't show production minis until this update in September:
Actually this whole expansion is pretty cool. New hunters, new heroes, new tiles, summoning mechanics... quite tempting.
Saddened by the severe lack of reptilian villains, but I'm having trouble thinking of any that are based more on folklore than typical fantasy tropes.
Well, the Naga of India, the Kappa of Japan, the Gorgons of Greece, Tlaloc (Aztec God depicted as a man with snake fangs?), the Dragon Kings of Chinese Myth. There are others, but almost every one of them is snake-like or half-snake. Or a God/Giant monster. At least when I searched Reptilian Humanoids of Myth.
Sad to say, it looks like most reptilian monsters are just that, monstrous beasts that really wouldn't reside ina castle except in perhaps the caverns below or as guard pets?
Those aren't production models, they are prototype resins. Notice the post was made close to a year ago, they didn't show production minis until this update in September:
Ah, that's the closest thing I could find with a few minutes of searching. Thanks for the correction Mym.
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PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
Those aren't production models, they are prototype resins. Notice the post was made close to a year ago, they didn't show production minis until this update in September:
On hand they look better than the photos, but to really see the detail you need to prime the models, their single biggest mistake was selecting that white colour for the heroes.
The detail is not as deep as the renders/ prototypes because the renders need to be more deep than intended to facilitate the loss of detail the casting method creates.
As a note, North America has yet to get their EtS games, but most of EU has. Or at least should have in Feb.
Thanks for that link!
The human characters look REALLY good - and as it was done by Ludo Fact, that probably bodes well here too.
Those aren't production models, they are prototype resins or possibly even 3D prints. Notice the post was made close to a year ago, they didn't show production minis until this update in September:
They look good for PVC but nowhere near the prototypes:
Prototype:
PVC
Uh oh...
Enthusiasm seriously dampened now.
That is not good at all...
PsychoticStorm wrote:On hand they look better than the photos, but to really see the detail you need to prime the models, their single biggest mistake was selecting that white colour for the heroes.
The detail is not as deep as the renders/ prototypes because the renders need to be more deep than intended to facilitate the loss of detail the casting method creates.
I *hope* that's the case, but if I can't find some 'primed' 'production' models before this campaign ends, I'm dropping my pledge.
I was hoping to have Endure the Stars by now. You would think there would be more pictures available considering everyone except the US, Canada, Brazil and Mexico received it. The shipping crate was expected in Chicago on March 16th. Just waiting on ShipBob to send it.
Not that I don't distrust other peoples pictures. I just like to have them in hand to see, feel and look at. There have been quite a few times I've seen videos and pictures of items, then got them in hand and was less impressed by them. But that is just me.
For Alpharius though here is an unboxing video and some pics (not a good selection of pics though):
There will be some unbending and hot treatment needed for a few things.
It's certainly an interesting quandary. I'm more or less only interested in this for the miniatures, so seeing those production samples from Endure the Stars was a bit worrying. Checked the reviews for it on BGG though, and it seems that the miniatures and art design are regularly praised, albeit in lieu of anything else nice to say about the game itself.
Out of curiosity- is it the same material used by CMON for games like Zombicide and Blood Rage? If not, how comparable is it; better or worse?
Tim the Biovore wrote: It's certainly an interesting quandary. I'm more or less only interested in this for the miniatures, so seeing those production samples from Endure the Stars was a bit worrying. Checked the reviews for it on BGG though, and it seems that the miniatures and art design are regularly praised, albeit in lieu of anything else nice to say about the game itself.
Out of curiosity- is it the same material used by CMON for games like Zombicide and Blood Rage? If not, how comparable is it; better or worse?
This helps, but then I'm not sure that I'd 'trust' BGG for 'miniature reviews' either though...!
@Alpharius
I think given that most, if not all, of the people who currently own it do so from the Kickstarter, it'd be reasonable to assume the majority of them are familiar with how widely the quality of sculpts can vary. "Above average quality" for board game miniatures isn't exactly the most glowing endorsement in the general world of miniatures, but at the same time they're not so un-noteworthy that it becomes in itself noteworthy, which is......something?
I do have more confidence after seeing a backer comment in the Endure the Stars update featuring the production samples, insisting that Monolith's Conan suffered from a similar issue, with poor material colour choice and sub-par photography dropping backer morale there until they retook the photos on better backgrounds with primed miniatures. Assuming Grimlord have learned from their mistakes, and the same mistakes made by others, then hopefully we won't see a repeat of it here with Village Attacks
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I'd also love it if Grimlord can do just that - retake the photos from ETS on better backgrounds with primed miniatures and post them for us to see - ASAP!!!
I think that without seeing them up close, it's probably safest to assume these won't be at CMON/Blood Rage quality, because nobody else seems to quite have that expertise yet. "Between Bones and Conan quality" is my best guess, but there's quite a bit of difference between those extremes.
I think they are about the same sculpting quality given the studio they use is the studio that did rum and bones for CMON.
The material colour is a really poor choice and if one does not undercoat it it will not show much of the detail, the "monsters" have the same detail, but show it because of different colour choice.
For boardgame models they are on the top tier of models witch puts them on the averagely good tier for wargaming models.
I do not think I have a setup to make good photos of the models and I do not intent on priming/ painting them, so they will still be a white thing.
I'm sitting on the same fence everyone else seems to be.
Ideally I'd just like to buy both sets of miniatures after kickstarter at retail, that way I can get a couple and decide if they are good enough to warrant taking the plunge.
I'm gona email them. Will let return if/when I hear back.
I still don't see why posters are looking for high quality miniatures with boardgame plastic. You get what you pay for (or might as well buy it if you're only painting to tabletop or advanced tabletop), and there are *plenty* of higher quality generic fantasy miniatures out there.
VA does have a resin pledge, so, sure, get that set if you're looking for better mini's.
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Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
easy mistake to make - those prototypes look incredible though!
