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Wait, the Runestaff has no special rules? Didn't Eisenhorn wipe a daemon from existence with that thing?

It is probably included in his overall rules really- he gets two pyschic powers and two denials, which is more than most Inquisitors. The staff was just a psychic focus for his own powers.

And it was attuned to only deal with one daemon in particular IIRC.

Well, that is the sort of level of power I'd expect from an Inquisitor. Though keeping with the Inquisition traditions he refuses to use a force field...

Well, in the novels he never had one either.

I thought he got his hands on a Rosarius at one point? Or am I confusing him with a different Inquisitor in the series?

It is odd how Inquisitors don't use refractor fields or other such devices.

 Haighus wrote:
I thought he got his hands on a Rosarius at one point? Or am I confusing him with a different Inquisitor in the series?

It is odd how Inquisitors don't use refractor fields or other such devices.

He had his Inquisitorial Rosette, no Rosarius as far as I remember.

 Haighus wrote:
I thought he got his hands on a Rosarius at one point? Or am I confusing him with a different Inquisitor in the series?

It is odd how Inquisitors don't use refractor fields or other such devices.

It is because they forgot to give that option to them sometime during 5th or 6th edition (they had them previously) and now that error has been thoughtlessly repeated in three editions of their rules. It makes zero sense. IG officers have refractor fields and lowly preachers have rosarii.

Am I wrong or are his weapons not exactly in line with his story? I mean, if I recall correctly, didn't he lose his bolt pistol before he got his force staff and Barbarisater? And then got a auto pistol?

If so, he did not have the Malus Codicium nor Cherubael at the same time as he had the bolt pistol.

Ok, I konw, that is complete nitpicking, but it still somewhat bothers me :p

Yeah, it's been ages, but I thought the bolt pistol was lost pretty early.

Pretty cool that he gets the summon; sounds like people think he's mechanically priced about right?

I don't think that is the same bolt pistol. The model has a fancy gold one, the one received in Xenos was a utilitarian green one gifted by the Deathwatch.

Eisenhorn's pistols are not really discussed after the Deathwatch bolt pistol gets lost. I think this is just a "generic" pistol he has carried at some point in the many decades between Malleus and Hereticus.

Pity they didn't give him the eyesore Vibben did for him.

So, the first post isn't helpful, but did we have information on when he was available to order, etc?

Chances are probably at the same time as the novel itself, 24th of February IIRC.

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are probably at the same time as the novel itself, 24th of February IIRC.

K. I guess I'll wait and see then.

Go to the Warhammer Community site and search for Eisenhorn, and you'll get to the definitive article.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/29/black-library-celebration-coming-soongw-homepage-post-3/

Available from the 24th of February.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Yeah, it's been ages, but I thought the bolt pistol was lost pretty early.

Pretty cool that he gets the summon; sounds like people think he's mechanically priced about right?

The Bolt Pistol given to him by Librarian Brynoth was lost on Eechan, during his hunt for Lyko.
He took a normal one and sprayed it green to replace it.

Later on, he ditched his bolt pistol for whatever he could bring with him. Sometimes he had an auto pistol, sometimes a shotgun, sometimes a lascarbine...he had lots of stuff.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Go to the Warhammer Community site and search for Eisenhorn, and you'll get to the definitive article.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/29/black-library-celebration-coming-soongw-homepage-post-3/

Available from the 24th of February.

Thanks! Now if only that was in the first post.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Yeah, it's been ages, but I thought the bolt pistol was lost pretty early.

Pretty cool that he gets the summon; sounds like people think he's mechanically priced about right?

He’s ok... he’s basically a 2 power psyker for 100pts (but his power choices kinda suck)
His str3 ap-3 dam 1, 4x atk, 2+ to hit sword isn’t going to scare anyone and while his 4+ mortal wound to vehicles grenade is cool it’s 6in isn’t going to be reliable. He does have his quarry which allows reroll a of 1 for hit and wound vs xenos.

The only reason to take him is to have him follow around his demonhost who you also have to pay for (25pts) but is extremely competitively priced.
At str6 toughness 6 wound 5, 4 atk, and +1 to hit (3+), +1 to wound, +1 invul (4++)
Doing 4x str6 -3ap dam1 and a str8 assault 1 -1ap shooting atk that does 3 dam on 5/6 to wound roll. Plus the random demonhost effect. It’s a nice demonhost rules for the cost however If Eisenhorn dies so does the demonhost and Eisenhorn desperately needs an invuln save. If Eisenhorn had a better selection of psychic powers I’d say it’s a decent 125 pt investment as he is now he is only useful for narrative games. I don’t see a roll for these 2 models.

Apologies for the necro, but they put up an article with design notes for the mini itself, including a clarification of the equipment choices: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/02/designer-insights-inquisitor-eisenhorngw-homepage-post-4/

I got mine in yesterday, and man the scale is weird on him. He's probably just barely taller than a space marine off his base and about as tall as a primaris on it. On top of that, the torso is as long as the legs are.

Aww man, that's really disappointing re: wonky proportions. Is he built such that it wouldn't involve a lot of cutting through details to trim his height down a little?

I don't know where you'd take it off of. Let me see if I can scrounge a picture from the badly painted miniatures on my desk as an example.

Stand by.


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That pic isn't great and I apologize for it, but it's what I had sitting around my desk at the time.



In order from left to right:
Easy To Build Primaris Marine, Eisenhorn (on supplied base), Space Marine (CSM torso/legs), Guardsmen (propped up on 1/8" plasticard), Guardsmen.

Probably the easiest place to remove height from would be to not use the decorative base that he's supplied with. It's about 1/8", so the side-by-side of the left-most guardsman is probably the most accurate direct comparison of the model itself.

As you can see, he's actually taller than the propped up guard, even with the guard having his helmet on. He also makes the chibi marine look adorably short by comparison.

Was Eisenhorn a giant / modified somehow? I don't really read much of the actual 40k fiction. He definitely seems like he's not designed to be on scale with humans though.

I wouldn't use the old Guard minis as to the height of 'modern' GW humans.

I'd say he's Heroic scale--as in bigger than normal human to show he's a Hero. ^_~ (This aint a scale miniatures game.)

Seems fine to me. The base adds quite a bit of height, he is not a giant.

Greyfax looks too like a giant woman compared with human miniatures, but in the tabletop she looks totally fine, is because of the heels and power armour.

The difference is so small, and being a single character hero... I don't think theres really a problem.

I didn't realize that Greyfax was so large. Honestly, this was the first GW miniature I'd bought in a while other than Mordians and some pushfit Restartes. I guess it just caught me off guard.

Hmm, I think the tall base will actually give the illusion that it's the base that's pushing the height... Either way, thanks for the pics.

The base definitely exacerbates the matter, but the adjusted guardsman negates the base padding (I measured) and he's still noticeably taller than the guardsman or the marine.

I mean, it's not a showstopper or keeping me from liking the model or anything. It just surprised me how much the scale had changed is all.

I think Dwarf Marines can safely be ignored in scale comparisons, it’s obvious GW has left them behind in terms of size. They are basically the same size as regular humans so they were always strangely small and squat anyway. Eisenhorn looks fine though, like a tall human basically. Very much doubt it’s an indication of overall scale change, seeing as all the recent-ish human-sized releases have been very consistent (GSC, Scions, AdMech etc)