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Just never mind.

Let's dial down the angst here, folks.

We're talking about a game of toy soldiers. Regardless of your opinion, there's no need to be rude about it.

I don't understand why some people are so angry that Games Workshop are releasing a new game. If you don't like the idea, can't you just not play it? Why are some people of the opinion, that if something seems like it's not for them, then everyone should be denied its existence too? I mean, I despise the taste of black olives, but that doesn't mean their existence offends me in any way.

Maybe they are angry that it took design time from something they wanted, like a new AoS book or Vigilus 3. Can't think of anything else, other then maybe someone hating Apocalyps as a core idea. To such a person anything new apocalyps related would be a waste of time and space.

I'm super hyped for apocalypse. Based on the fact that damage isn't resolved til the end of a round. I'm guessing we are at least getting the kill team phase order. Where both sides, move, then both sides would shoot. Though it probably won't be alternating shooting activations.

I'm also in camp "use the rules in place of regular 40k if they are good and fast"

Karol wrote:
Maybe they are angry that it took design time from something they wanted, like a new AoS book or Vigilus 3. Can't think of anything else, other then maybe someone hating Apocalyps as a core idea. To such a person anything new apocalyps related would be a waste of time and space.

Maybe. But I don't think that's in any way a defensible position. Such a position stinks of entitlement and petulance, and comes across to me like someone asking, "How dare they waste their time working something other than the thing which I personally believe they should be working on instead?" By all means admonish them for giving us stuff that's bad, or for even for not giving us stuff we're asking for - I'm thinking specifically of the rueful situation of your Grey Knight's here, Karol - but I don't think it's fair to take that dissatisfaction out on the other stuff they create. At least not until after we've actually gotten our hands on it first.

I don't think codex and stuff like apocalyps fall in to the same basket of design time at work. Other games modes or games don't bother me at all.
But again, I can imagine the feeling. It is like people training long jump taking up the training era and you have to wait 40-60 min for them to finish. You could be sooner at home, if they were just not there. It is not a happy feeling.

Personaly I find hate or personal dislike a strong argument to do anything as people go. With hate everything can be excused and everything can be explained. A logical argument against something is much harder to fashion.

Nope...not until they re-release a proper apocalypse game. Specialist games in 10mm (i.e. Epic)

Does anyone know the release dates?

Emperorman1 wrote:
Does anyone know the release dates?

They haven't said anything about a date yet, but we can assume when it will come out by what we've been shown b4 it.

Contrast paints
New aos Alliance books
New aos box set
Necromunda stuffs
Chaos knights
And other stuff

We might expect it after that, and if you handle that with each release about a 1/2 month apart we might expect something around 3 to 5 months from now.

Edit
I wish it was alot sooner, but aos and primaris marines takes president right now.