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Large inf hordes unlock two things, so it is not really that big of a deal. The loss of unlocks from LI regiments i silly though, not as if you saw many of those in 2nd. Since Ogres don´t have warmachines, the horde change actually don´t affect them at all.

They have certainly nerfed chariots in pretty much all ways. CoK18/19 might have buffed them a bit too much, but they hardly saw play before that boost, and now they look even worse than pre-CoK. My chariot tomb king army is destroyed as a concept with 3rd.

With the massive changes to units all across the board, and with some early clear winners and loser, I am guessing that the balance is actually worse with 3rd than it was. Silverbreeze seem like an obvious very good spammable unit now for example, same with siegebreakers. While chariots are worse across the board at a higher cost.

It is probably still a very good game though.

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Anyone got the rulebook yet? My order is still stuck at "Ready for dispatch"
   
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No book here yet. Pre ordered from Mantic. I imagine it will take two weeks or so from release so sometime next week is my guess.

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I am waiting, i ordered mine from a "local" store (by that i mean it's only a few hundred miles from me)

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Got my copy, but I picked it up at my FLGS.

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And just like that the order status changed to dispatched! Sometimes complaining works
   
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Having leafed through the book now, it definitely has that GW-like feeling of change for change's sake, mysterious cutting of units and options, screwing with base sizes, rules bloat in strange places, sloppy editing and an absolutely atrocious layout that makes it impossible to gauge units at a glance.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Having leafed through the book now, it definitely has that GW-like feeling of change for change's sake, mysterious cutting of units and options, screwing with base sizes, rules bloat in strange places, sloppy editing and an absolutely atrocious layout that makes it impossible to gauge units at a glance.


Strange how different people look differently towards a new book!

Having read through the rulebook (at least the rulespart) completely by now; I'm positively surprised. The game is 90% the same as KoW 2nd edition. A few minor changes in the core rules (mainly the disengage mechanic over the 1"fallback of 2nd edition and the fact that charge distances now measure from anywhere on the base instead of leaderpoint) but that's it. the only gripe I had with the rules [url]http://kingsofwarvince.business.blog/2019/10/28/pondering-the-3rd-edition-preferred-model-count//url] has already been rectified by Mantic.

The main difference is not in the main game, but in army selection. I think some changes were due (as speed and some shooting were too good in 2nd) and others changes are made to consolidate some unit entries again. (mainly the fact that a lot of monsters had a 50*50 and 75*75mm counterpart) . Though I haven't had a chance to actually play a game of 3rd edition; I rebuilt some of my armies and my gut feeling is they are more balanced than they were. I can only hope my opponents will feel the same, as I don't want to face another archer + chariot + drakon army ever again. (Not that I will, since these 3 units have become irregular)

On the subject of the new layout, I somewhat agree with you. I do like a spreadsheet layout better and unit comparison is not that easy. On the subject of editing, absolutely not. The book is distincly better than all its predecessors, both in artwork, fluff quality and editing.

For those interested, I reviewed the 3rd edition undead army: http://kingsofwarvince.business.blog/2019/10/29/kings-of-war-3rd-edition-undead-preview-1/

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