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Commissar Yarrick
Ragnar Blackmane
Both, although it's kind of hard to be more familiar with both I'm basically saying I have no opinion on the matter or feel indifferent

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Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!


yeah nevermind that this poll is so clearly biased that no one in their right mind you accept it as legitimate. it's like a political poll asking "do you support our canidate or the pedophile?"

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BrianDavion wrote:
Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!


yeah nevermind that this poll is so clearly biased that no one in their right mind you accept it as legitimate. it's like a political poll asking "do you support our canidate or the pedophile?"

But that's only 1 person...
   
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Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!

Why do you think I care about the outcome of a poll concerning Ragnar and Yarrick at all?

Jesus enough weird strawmen please.


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BrianDavion wrote:
yeah nevermind that this poll is so clearly biased that no one in their right mind you accept it as legitimate. it's like a political poll asking "do you support our canidate or the pedophile?"

What is biased about this poll, exactly? Where are you getting this from? Is this part of your 'anti marine'/'hate marine' tinfoil hat theory?

BrianDavion wrote:

The fact is Ragnar is a pretty well known character, and unless you hate space Marines you've proably read the books featuring him. and Yarrick is a well known character (although he's less well noted in the novels as he doesn't apper in any of the "first stop for faction X" books out there)

just judging from the responses here the over whelming response seems to be everyone knows about him.. unless they're part of the "anti-marine crowd" in which case yeah why would they know about him?


Dude do you realise how crazy this sounds? We're going to have to knock this outta you if you're gonna play Orks. There's not some secret society of marine haters. We don't have a secret handshake and we certainly aren't legion. feth I've said too much.

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Models for both characters were shown in the 2nd edition 40k rulebook, so they've always been with me.

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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Models for both characters were shown in the 2nd edition 40k rulebook, so they've always been with me.

Yeah, I have basically been aware of both characters as long as I've been aware of 40K, so it is impossible to choose.


   
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Been aware of both is not the same as familiar with both though. I have known about Ragnar Blackmane for as long as I have known about Yarrick, but I don't read the novels very much and Yarrick appeared in more game materials over the years.

I don't think Yarrick should have beheaded Ghaz particularly though. I think he should be dead by now if they are moving the timeline forward. May as well just kill off all the normal human characters and focus on the marines who can live long enough for this sort of advancing timeline to make sense.

   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!

Why do you think I care about the outcome of a poll concerning Ragnar and Yarrick at all?

Jesus enough weird strawmen please.

The rabid defence of a poorly-executed poll would imply that Dai's position might not be a strawman.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!

Why do you think I care about the outcome of a poll concerning Ragnar and Yarrick at all?

Jesus enough weird strawmen please.

The rabid defence of a poorly-executed poll would imply that Dai's position might not be a strawman.

I'll need some sort or proof that the poll is poorly-executed. It seems to serve the OPs purpose just fine, based on his requirements laid out in the OP. The fact that it doesn't suit your rhetoric is not his problem.
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!

Why do you think I care about the outcome of a poll concerning Ragnar and Yarrick at all?

Jesus enough weird strawmen please.

The rabid defence of a poorly-executed poll would imply that Dai's position might not be a strawman.

I'll need some sort or proof that the poll is poorly-executed. It seems to serve the OPs purpose just fine, based on his requirements laid out in the OP. The fact that it doesn't suit your rhetoric is not his problem.

For one the disqualifying criteria is long after the question so it's very easy to answer then discover you weren't supposed to at all.

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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Dai wrote:
Or in other words AAE desperately wants this poll to be all good to suit his opinions. He is barely even trying to hide it!

Why do you think I care about the outcome of a poll concerning Ragnar and Yarrick at all?

Jesus enough weird strawmen please.

The rabid defence of a poorly-executed poll would imply that Dai's position might not be a strawman.

I'll need some sort or proof that the poll is poorly-executed. It seems to serve the OPs purpose just fine, based on his requirements laid out in the OP. The fact that it doesn't suit your rhetoric is not his problem.

Here's the thing - if you're building a poll, you want to ensure there are sufficient options that 100% of people viewing the options feel they have a valid option to select from, without being shoe-horned into a box that doesn't fit, Why is that important? Because you want as wide a number of respondents as possible for your poll to be statistically significant. If I present a poll to 10,000 people, and only 5 of them feel that the options presented are appropriate for them to select, then my results aren't valid.

You also need to ensure that you don't introduce bias into proceedings with how you word your options. If your options or question are leading people towards a given response, this is another way in which the results of your poll can be called into question. The tone of the third option - which wasn't present at the start of the poll - would fall under this heading.

We have here a scenario where the OP is trying to determine which of two characters people are more familiar with. He's given two exclusive options, but the two options selected definitely exclude people who aren't familiar with either character and haven't heard of them, have heard of the characters but wouldn't describe themselves as familiar with either (for example, someone who has seen the characters on the GW site, but not read up on the lore), and people who would describe themselves as equally familiar with both characters.

Expanding the poll to five options, with some re-phrasing, provides valid options for a wider pool of viewers. For example, phrasing it as follows:
Q - Which of the following characters would you rate yourself as more familiar with?
A1, I am more familiar with Commissar Yarrick than Ragnar Blackmane
A2, I am more familiar with Ragnar Blackmane than Commissar Yarrick
A3, I would describe myself as equally familiar with both characters
A4, I would describe myself as unfamiliar with either character, but am aware they exist
A5, I had never heard of either character prior to recent discussion on the forum

An alternative approach, if you wanted fewer options, would be to use the multiple-choice feature to indicate all characters the poster is familiar with. For example:
Q - Which of the following characters would you describe yourself as familiar with (select all which apply)?
A1 - Commissar Yarrick
A2 - Ragnar Blackmane
A3 - Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka
A4 - I am unfamiliar with any of the above characters

At this point, you can judge the relative familiarity by looking at the % of posters who describe themselves as familiar with the options, and have included an option for people who wish to respond, but are unfamiliar with the two characters.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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I think by this point, the OP has their sample, for whatever purpose that serves, and this nonsense has gone on long enough. Moving on.

 
   
 
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