How long does it take for new codexes (Xenos) and models to come out?

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**Voss**

stratigo wrote:
ERJAK wrote:
Years if ever.

This is new GW mate.

There will be at lest 4, and most likely more, new 40k codexes a year. Space marines will always jump the line, but as it stands, it will never be more than 4 years between codexes now.

I doubt it. The rushed race of 8th edition releases is hopefully over, and with their factory update finished (or nearly so), no need for constant filler books like PA.

Hopefully they'll slow back down and leave armies alone for a good while once they update them.

But there isn't any reason to take the 8th edition release schedule as a precedent. 8th and 9th are related enough that they aren't in an 'everything is invalidated' scenario.

**stratigo**

Voss wrote:
stratigo wrote:
ERJAK wrote:
Years if ever.

This is new GW mate.

There will be at lest 4, and most likely more, new 40k codexes a year. Space marines will always jump the line, but as it stands, it will never be more than 4 years between codexes now.

I doubt it. The rushed race of 8th edition releases is hopefully over, and with their factory update finished (or nearly so), no need for constant filler books like PA.

Hopefully they'll slow back down and leave armies alone for a good while once they update them.

But there isn't any reason to take the 8th edition release schedule as a precedent. 8th and 9th are related enough that they aren't in an 'everything is invalidated' scenario.

Don't look at 40k, look at AoS.

GW has hit upon the idea that regularly releasing new army books drives sales. And they are entirely correct in this. Every edition is going to have a regular churn through of the available codexes, plus a few new (or "new") ones, over its life span. Every army is gonna get a new book in 9th (or at least a supplement in the case of marine sub factions), and 9th is not going to last much longer than 8th did. And this is the pace they will keep up, because it's been a huge win for them financially. That said, everything is probably gonna get a can kicked down about 2 to 3 months thanks to Covid, so there might either be a congested release at a certain point, or maybe a couple armies do indeed get screwed as they don't fit in the revised 9th edition release window.

The only way this changes is if GW's profits crater. Which itself will only happen in the context of a worldwide crisis.

**Kanluwen**

catbarf wrote:
Blood of the Phoenix wasn't a starter set. You had to already have at least the codices for the two factions in order to play with it.

Feast of Bones, for contrast, included core rules, and AoS has all the warscrolls free, so it was playable and a viable entry point for the game.

Unless it happened sometime during 6th-7th when I was away from the hobby, I don't think there's ever been an intro set- everything you need to play included- that hasn't been Space Marines vs someone else. That alone is a major contributor to Marines having a larger market share.

Forgebane.
All the rules for the units were included in the booklet. Necrons v AdMech.

I guess you could kinda/sorta make an argument for the original Kill-Team launch? The assembly book had datasheets for Rangers/Vanguard and Neophyte Hybrids. But that one's a stretch.

**Argive**

@OP Unless you are playing space marines just don't expect any models for your faction in any given years.

Not saying you wont get anything the entire year.. but whell.. you are likely not getting anything the entire year.

**Hellebore**

Stux wrote:
Obviously if they put more marketing and releases into a faction it would sell more than if they didn't.

But I am 100% confident that at this point they get much better ROI on focusing on marines than other factions. They will have data on this, decades worth of it.

Marines are the human power fantasy faction, and they superficially appear to be the good guys to new players. Players always gravitate more to this kind of faction in games, even when all options are presented equally. Add to that the iconic Marine look that transcends the game itself.

Could they release a few less Marines and a few more others? Sure. Would people actually be much happier if they did? I wouldnt bank on it.

I say all this as a Tyranids player too. Yeah, no new kits since 2014 is a bit lame. But honestly I feel like our range is really not that bad compared to several other factions who have had some more recent releases. I would be far more interested in a rules rework than new models to be quite honest.

what is conveniently overlooked is that your power fantasy only works when it has an enemy to smash. If you focus all your attention on them, your game will stagnate as people get bored of smashing their he-man against their friend's he-man.

GW have had a remarkable time making fun of xenos players while also expecting them to act as marine punching bags. Only so many people are masochists for this kind of thing. When playing your army is a chore rather than a joy people stop playing.

When your eager kid joins and likes orks but sees their mates' marines getting attention, release after release, it will dishearten them. They either quit playing them, or take up marines. And Turning all your players to marines is a very short term profit strategy and long term failure.

**quantumquixote**

Right, they talk about wanting to keep army fluffy, but fluff-wise right now the Imperium is undergoing a civil war with how strong the Space Marine meta has been. No one I know are playing Space Marines right now so that the games are more fair and fun.

**Jidmah**

Beardedragon wrote:
But also kind of sad because i have no idea how long i have to wait till my Orks get their Codex then.

They teased an ork model during the release party stream, so orks are likely to be released early next year, if not by the end of this one.