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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 20:05:44
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Battleship Captain
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In fairness, he didn't even need to be there for that one.
The Imperium has it's own checks and balances to even High Lords going 'off-script'.
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 20:44:19
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Mexico
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Mr Morden wrote:Hecaton wrote:For those of you saying that Inquisitors all have legal authority over the Astartes, that's very much a matter of contention. They claim they do. Many Astartes chapters claim they do not. At various times, one or the other is right. Many Chapters? Apart from the Wolves who are actually made of plot armour - which Chapters have openly stated that they are not subject to the Inquisiton and not suffered the consequences. However Astartes are outwith the scope of the inquisition in terms of being a requestionable asset that can be commanded. They do this quite often in the lore so thats wrong. Grey Knights have killed Inquisitors, Flesh Tearers have killed Inquisitors, Dark Angels have killed Inquisitors, Ultramarines have gotten away with blatantly threatening Inquisitors. While the Space Wolves may be the most blatant about it, none of the First or Second Founding Chapters tolerate Inquisitors that overestimate their political power.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 21:37:58
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Tyran wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Hecaton wrote:For those of you saying that Inquisitors all have legal authority over the Astartes, that's very much a matter of contention. They claim they do. Many Astartes chapters claim they do not. At various times, one or the other is right.
Many Chapters? Apart from the Wolves who are actually made of plot armour - which Chapters have openly stated that they are not subject to the Inquisiton and not suffered the consequences.
However Astartes are outwith the scope of the inquisition in terms of being a requestionable asset that can be commanded.
They do this quite often in the lore so thats wrong.
Grey Knights have killed Inquisitors, Flesh Tearers have killed Inquisitors, Dark Angels have killed Inquisitors, Ultramarines have gotten away with blatantly threatening Inquisitors.
While the Space Wolves may be the most blatant about it, none of the First or Second Founding Chapters tolerate Inquisitors that overestimate their political power.
And Inquisitors have killed whole Chapters
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 21:46:20
Subject: Re:So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Which Inquisitior has single handedly wiped out an entire chapter?
They may have played a part in the downfall of a chapter, but actually wiping out an entire chapter?
I imagine there is a reason the high lord usually use multiple spacemarine chapters to sanction another chapter when they feel the need and even then it seems to be fairly rare in the lore for chapter's to be wiped out whole sale.
Heck most of the time they are just givwn oenitence crusades as "one does not waste the resources of the Emperor"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 22:21:41
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Flame Falcons and whatever chapter Astraeos belonged to name two.
Obviously no one is talking about an Inquisitor personally wiping out a chapter. They're talking about the combined influence and connections of an Inquisitor(s) destroying a chapter. If they're calling in the Grey Knights to wipe out a chapter that's "destroyed by the Inquisition"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 22:39:27
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Mexico
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And thus we are back to "the political power that particular Inquisitor possess vs the political power that particular Chapter possess." And depending on those two variables, an Inquisitor may be able to requisition a Chapter, or may have to ask nicely because they would get a bolt round to the face if they don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 22:45:39
Subject: Re:So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Yes - thats correct.
However an Inqusitor has the right to deman the services of the Astartes - they can refuse but will be aware of the potential risk in doing so. In the same way as an Inqusitor has to be aware of the worth of the Astartes and wastng such resources again can have consequences for them - all Inqusitors have enemies within the Imperium.
The idea that most Marine Chapters would refuse a Inqusitor that required say a single squad to assist him or her goes against decades of lore, stories and background. Equally an Inquisitor is going to demand such a thing only if they need them.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/06 20:09:12
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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I believe Prospero was the Inquisition no? And wasn't the big I also about 2 steps away from signing the death warrant of the Space Wolves thus the Inquisition and the GK are never allowed on Fenris again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/06 20:29:28
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Mexico
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Prospero was Horus, long before the Inquisition existed. As for the Months of Shame, that ended with Lord Inquisitor Kysnaros having a personal and fatal encounter with Logan Grimnar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/07 00:59:49
Subject: So how much power does an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord really have?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Nope. The Space Wolves, Adeptus Custodes, and Sisters of Silence were sent to Prospero by the Emperor himself to bring Magnus the Red to him. Then the Warmaster sent a message to Russ telling him that the Emperor said if the Thousand Sons don't surrender, wipe them out and bring back Magnus dead or alive. He was lying, but Russ believed him.
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