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 RedFox wrote:



Who will save the world from chaos ? potential daemons chaos release ? maybe for both 40k and WHFB...new GK vs daemons sanctus reach release ?

I honestly think this is all geared at fantasy.

Seriously, it's a big warning sign when the codex doesn't have an author but is instead attributed to the studio. All the other copy and paste hatchet jobs were listed the same way.

I had been assuming they'd at least throw some currently existing models into the book, Stormtalons, Drop Pods, whatever. It costs them literally nothing and fills out the thin codex.

I think we're getting exactly what was leaked in the Space Wolves army builder, and it's really baffling how anyone could be so clueless as to think this would be well received.

Love that detachment.

Also more formations for Space Wolves. Hopefully they are good ones. The Champions of Fenris ones seem to be lacking a bit after how good the Ork Supplement ones were.

WayneTheGame wrote:

 Thunderfrog wrote:
Did anyone else notice the GK Strike Squad box is 10 models for 60 instead of 5 for 33?

A discount? Madness!

Remember its not a discount, the 5 man box is now just officially over priced.

Red Corsair wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Sky Claws - 150

900 Points easy with mid-low estimates.

That one seems high to be honest. Aren't 5 of them 75pts?

Oh, I think you're right. Duh. I was thinking of a 10 man. So yeah, 825-850 or so.

puma713 wrote:Wow, $6/model for Grey Knights Strike Squad.

They've been more than $6.00 a model for years. (6.50 in fact since 2011) And before that, they were all metal and probably at least that high. Your complaint is 3 years out of date.


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Lanlaorn wrote:
Seriously, it's a big warning sign when the codex doesn't have an author but is instead attributed to the studio. All the other copy and paste hatchet jobs were listed the same way.

Every book has that listed as the author now for like the last year or two.

 puma713 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Thunderfrog wrote:
Did anyone else notice the GK Strike Squad box is 10 models for 60 instead of 5 for 33?

Yea it's pretty nice, I wonder if they will do a 5 man death company/10 man assault squad when BA get redone.

I guess I've been out of the market so long that $60 for 10 models seems ridiculous.

No your not, I was trying to be nice about it. In the context of GW currently it is an improvement.

I do remember cringing when tac squads went up to 35. And that's only 3.50 per power armored guy.

I too will pass on this offering.

Why on earth would I want to buy a new book that takes away all my inquisition and my double demon-sword inquisitor (Just for the coolness! ) and Psybolt and SC's and trades them for a few points changes and gear updates?

Back to my Tombcrons.

 pretre wrote:

puma713 wrote:Wow, $6/model for Grey Knights Strike Squad.

They've been more than $6.00 a model for years. (6.50 in fact since 2011) And before that, they were all metal and probably at least that high. Your complaint is 3 years out of date.

I'm just referring to models in general and not just GK. Although maybe I was indoctrinated to it back then. After being out of the game for a while and looking at these prices now, it's a little shocking.

Nb4: "Don't complain, you are Codex: GK, not Codex: Inquisition."

I still don't want to pay to lose options and models.

The tactical box is $40USD now, I believe. Which does make any of the $33/5 boxes a rip off. But we already knew the value of the boxes have been in decline for some time now. And we have third parties who state that GW prices are highway robbery on the actual dollar cost per plastic sprue you get. The vehicles usually being the biggest culprits. But don't let logic cloud your mind.

I want to see the local response tomorrow of folks who don't follow this and what they think of a $50 book that does nothing but adds random and deletes units.


The Wolf boxes will be interesting to see. Are they rebranded vanilla kits or do they have wolf sprues in them?

It seems they've put a huge amount of work into the Assassine Dataslate when the model on the cover page isn't available anymore.

 Thunderfrog wrote:
Nb4: "Don't complain, you are Codex: GK, not Codex: Inquisition."

I still don't want to pay to lose options and models.

Well its technically true as theres been a Codex: Inquisition for a while now

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Thunderfrog wrote:
Nb4: "Don't complain, you are Codex: GK, not Codex: Inquisition."

I still don't want to pay to lose options and models.

Well its technically true as theres been a Codex: Inquisition for a while now

Technically correct is the best kind!

[MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]

Well that escalated quickly

More like salad tosser. Not even just brown nosing

As for the codex upgrading it so that the rules make sense for 7th I'm good with. Splitting the book is kinda crappy but to be honest I already expected it. Now Inquisition and Assassins are going to be properly spread around the imperium. GK is GK. I do wish for more units to choose from and new models. But I'm still kinda excited by the release. Not gonna lie.

While harsh that's basically absolutely right - there's no sane way to justify this rubbish.

 Hulksmash wrote:
More like salad tosser. Not even just brown nosing

As for the codex upgrading it so that the rules make sense for 7th I'm good with. Splitting the book is kinda crappy but to be honest I already expected it. Now Inquisition and Assassins are going to be properly spread around the imperium. GK is GK. I do wish for more units to choose from and new models. But I'm still kinda excited by the release. Not gonna lie.

Yea the writing was pretty much on the wall as soon as they made the Inq codex, not sure why this is surprising. Being dissapointed is fine, but not really surprising

OK, I have to sympathize with GK players though. If the codex was split apart and priced appropriately for the rules content I wouldn't understand the complaining.

But come on, that GK book is 50 bucks with, according to GW, two books worth of data pulled out and sold also at a premium. In order to maintain your collection you need double what other armies are paying. It does seem a bit unfortunate.

Imagine if when Eldar came out, no wraith based were in it and you needed to purchase Iyandin solely to get those units.

So, you get to pay more to have half your codex taken away? Seems legit.

Updating a codex so the rules make sense for a new edition is the role of errata and FAQs, though.

A new codex should be new content, and while that certainly doesn't need to be new models (the best new content in the Eldar codex is the Wave Serpent's serpent shield, not the Wraith Knight!), actually removing most of the book without any replacements for those options seems particularly lazy.

 Hulksmash wrote:
More like salad tosser. Not even just brown nosing

As for the codex upgrading it so that the rules make sense for 7th I'm good with. Splitting the book is kinda crappy but to be honest I already expected it. Now Inquisition and Assassins are going to be properly spread around the imperium. GK is GK. I do wish for more units to choose from and new models. But I'm still kinda excited by the release. Not gonna lie.

See that is a great attitude and I would mirror this if it weren't for the costs involved. I saw the split too, but surely they could price books like this or the even worse offender Imperial Knights more realistically.

Personally, I have a small inq force, wasnt really big on them personally.

For my own taste, I'm ok the Gk codex just being GK if you know where I'm coming from.

So Grey Knight apparently get an objective where they have to wipe out their own allies? That is pretty cool!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Grey Knight apparently get an objective where they have to wipe out their own allies? That is pretty cool!

And fluffy! How much hate would I get if i bought a small token SoB force to ally with in games, just for that objective

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Personally, I have a small inq force, wasnt really big on them personally.

For my own taste, I'm ok the Gk codex just being GK if you know where I'm coming from.

Same here. I hated how so many tournament lists we're "GK" and yet many did not have a single unit of MEQ ot TEQ in them.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Personally, I have a small inq force, wasnt really big on them personally.

For my own taste, I'm ok the Gk codex just being GK if you know where I'm coming from.

Yea it's obvious where your coming from. This release isn't damaging you really so you don't care lol.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Grey Knight apparently get an objective where they have to wipe out their own allies? That is pretty cool!

So fun.

Much narrative.

Wow

 Red Corsair wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Personally, I have a small inq force, wasnt really big on them personally.

For my own taste, I'm ok the Gk codex just being GK if you know where I'm coming from.

Yea it's obvious where your coming from. This release isn't damaging you really so you don't care lol.

I guess that makes me a tosser

WayneTheGame wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So Grey Knight apparently get an objective where they have to wipe out their own allies? That is pretty cool!

So fun.

Much narrative.

Wow

I actually think it is cool. It's Maelstrom, so if you don't like it, discard the card.