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Relapse wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

Relapse wrote:
Now the White House is sending representitives to the funeral:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/24/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

I'll be expecting them to send representitives to the funeral of the unarmed teen recently gunned down by the black cop here in Salt Lake

http://kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_13131.shtml

or the funeral of the police chief in Texas who was gunned down as he served a warrent for graphiti

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

The President can't send reps to every funeral, and folks (especially his critics) are always going to say "why that , but not this" but this death has caused such national uproar and become the focus of so many issues even beyond the shooting, that he has to send someone.

So the solution is to cause more of an uproar when it happens.

OK, I'm off to loot burn & down my local Old Navy.

The only reason I heard about the shooting in Salt Lake is because I live nearby. It wasn't even a blip in the major news carriers articles for the day.

It's simply because it doesn't fit...
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wait for it...

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The Narrative™.

If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.

He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.

Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.

 Ouze wrote:
If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.

He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.

Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.

I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.

 Ouze wrote:
If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.

Were I to ask such a question, it would be complete sarcasm. And, yes, in future local incidents you may very well see some of us asking when the President will send Eric Holder out to investigate even though there is absolutely no need. The President made himself a target for sarcasm and derision by pandering in the first place and I will not apologize for my participation.

Relapse wrote:

I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.

Were there massive riots in SLC?

Also, Dillon Taylor was 20.

Ferguson protesters chanted, "Hands up, don't shoot!" Darren Wilson supporters replied, "Shoot!"

 Crimson wrote:
Ferguson protesters chanted, "Hands up, don't shoot!" Darren Wilson supporters replied, "Shoot!"

Well that was dumb.

 Ouze wrote:
If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.

He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.

Actually... wouldn't faze me if he didn't send anyone. As crass as it sounds, he's the President and can't afford to show up/send delegate for these things... otherwise, things wouldn't get done.

...wait... things wouldn't get done?

Well, gak, he should be attending to EVERY funeral then!

That should fill up his calendar!

Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.

Yep... most of this is blown out of proportion.

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:

I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.

Were there massive riots in SLC?

Also, Dillon Taylor was 20.

Point taken on the age, my bad. The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.

And with Dillon Tyler they've been consistent about posting recent pictures of him. Not ones from when he was 13.

Relapse wrote:
The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.

My contention is that the media furor surrounding the Ferguson incident is primarily related to the the riots, not the race of the cop and the victim.

Oh, and also that the police story is nonsense.

Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?

 d-usa wrote:
Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?

No... but, if you wanted "justice" for Brown... then the riots / media blitzkrieg is NOT what you want.

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:
The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.

My contention is that the media furor surrounding the Ferguson incident is primarily related to the the riots, not the race of the cop and the victim.

Oh, and also that the police story is nonsense.

My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be. In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?

No... but, if you wanted "justice" for Brown...

So you are pretending this is about one isolated case without any relationship to anything else.

Relapse wrote:

My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.

While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:

My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.

While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.

You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!

Relapse wrote:
In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.

I've read several blogs in which race is mentioned, and you're mentioning it now. The reason SLC is not being carried at a national level is the absence of massive riots.

I don't see how this is hard to understand.

 Ahtman wrote:

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:

My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.

While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.

You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!

Like a wiseman once said:



Of course he also said:

Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......

 cincydooley wrote:
Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......

No, it doesn't. That's a forced comparison made by people that don't understand how "race" works.

 dogma wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......

No, it doesn't. That's a forced comparison made by people that don't understand how "race" works.

I understand how race works just fine, thanks, and I disagree.

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:
In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.

I've read several blogs in which race is mentioned, and you're mentioning it now. The reason SLC is not being carried at a national level is the absence of massive riots.

I don't see how this is hard to understand.

I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old.


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 d-usa wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 dogma wrote:

Relapse wrote:

My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.

While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.

You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!

Like a wiseman once said:



Of course he also said:

As is being well proven in Ferguson.

 cincydooley wrote:

I understand how race works just fine, thanks, and I disagree.

Disagree with what?

Relapse wrote:

I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old.

It didn't become a major story until the riots began.

 dogma wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

I understand how race works just fine, thanks, and I disagree.

Disagree with what?

Relapse wrote:

I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old.

It didn't become a major story until the riots began.

Actually it was all over the news that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen. Then the riots began.

 dogma wrote:

It didn't become a major story until the riots began.

Uh...yeah it was. It was cop kills unarmed black kid. It was instant Trayvon Martin comparisons.

I had to find out from the friggin Blaze, of all places, that the Dillon Taylor shooting even happened. I mean Christ, go to the MSNBC website. There are three FEATURED stories about Ferguson. If you search Michael Brown on their site there are 600+ returns. If you search Dillon Taylor there are 0. Salt Lake City Shooting Yields, again, 0 results. Ferguson Shooting? 231.

It's a little bit ridiculous, TBH. I knew there was a disparity, but I have to admit I didn't think it would be THAT egregious on MSNBC.

 cincydooley wrote:

 dogma wrote:

It didn't become a major story until the riots began.

Uh...yeah it was. It was cop kills unarmed black kid. It was instant Trayvon Martin comparisons.

I had to find out from the friggin Blaze, of all places, that the Dillon Taylor shooting even happened. I mean Christ, go to the MSNBC website. There are three FEATURED stories about Ferguson. If you search Michael Brown on their site there are 600+ returns. If you search Dillon Taylor there are 0. Salt Lake City Shooting Yields, again, 0 results. Ferguson Shooting? 231.

It's a little bit ridiculous, TBH. I knew there was a disparity, but I have to admit I didn't think it would be THAT egregious on MSNBC.

Welcome to the wonderful world of race baiting.

Relapse wrote:

Actually it was all over the news that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen. Then the riots began.

Do you have an example? Because I didn't hear about the shooting until the riots began.

This whole "race baiting" thing is just a sad excuse to actually ignore why stuff happens....

 d-usa wrote:
This whole "race baiting" thing is just a sad excuse to actually ignore why stuff happens....

While I agree, the disparity in the coverage is both appalling and shocking.

Like I said, I knew there'd be a pretty large gap. I couldn't believe MSNBC didn't have a single story.....