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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 18:51:11
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Relapse wrote: SlaveToDorkness wrote: Eilif wrote:
The President can't send reps to every funeral, and folks (especially his critics) are always going to say "why that , but not this" but this death has caused such national uproar and become the focus of so many issues even beyond the shooting, that he has to send someone.
So the solution is to cause more of an uproar when it happens.
OK, I'm off to loot burn & down my local Old Navy.
The only reason I heard about the shooting in Salt Lake is because I live nearby. It wasn't even a blip in the major news carriers articles for the day.
It's simply because it doesn't fit...
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The Narrative™.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 19:16:30
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.
He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.
Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 19:33:33
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ouze wrote:If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.
He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.
Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.
I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 19:43:55
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Ouze wrote:If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992.
Were I to ask such a question, it would be complete sarcasm. And, yes, in future local incidents you may very well see some of us asking when the President will send Eric Holder out to investigate even though there is absolutely no need. The President made himself a target for sarcasm and derision by pandering in the first place and I will not apologize for my participation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 20:35:18
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Relapse wrote:
I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.
Were there massive riots in SLC?
Also, Dillon Taylor was 20.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 21:10:28
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 21:15:12
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 22:45:09
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Ouze wrote:If no representatives had been sent, the very same people on this forum would ask why the Obama administration is ignoring the biggest domestic riots since 1992. He sends reps? It's meaningless political pandering.
Actually... wouldn't faze me if he didn't send anyone. As crass as it sounds, he's the President and can't afford to show up/send delegate for these things... otherwise, things wouldn't get done. ...wait... things wouldn't get done? Well, gak, he should be attending to EVERY funeral then! That should fill up his calendar! Yeah, Whembly, there's a fething narrative, alright.
Yep... most of this is blown out of proportion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 00:37:07
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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dogma wrote:Relapse wrote:
I think what Whembly was refering to, though, was the fact the media is ignoring the shooting in Salt Lake even though circumstances were similar in that an unarmed teen was shot. The big difference is that the cop was black(though, like Wilson, possibly within his rights to shoot), and the teen was of a different color.
Were there massive riots in SLC?
Also, Dillon Taylor was 20.
Point taken on the age, my bad. The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 01:54:02
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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And with Dillon Tyler they've been consistent about posting recent pictures of him. Not ones from when he was 13.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:13:55
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Relapse wrote:The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.
My contention is that the media furor surrounding the Ferguson incident is primarily related to the the riots, not the race of the cop and the victim.
Oh, and also that the police story is nonsense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:27:03
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:32:09
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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d-usa wrote:Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?
No... but, if you wanted "justice" for Brown... then the riots / media blitzkrieg is NOT what you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:37:57
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Fixture of Dakka
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dogma wrote:Relapse wrote:The fact remains, however that the media would be all over the story if it was a white cop shooting an unarmed black man, stirring the pot and convicting the officer in the public's opinion since this seems to be the standard of operation.
My contention is that the media furor surrounding the Ferguson incident is primarily related to the the riots, not the race of the cop and the victim.
Oh, and also that the police story is nonsense.
My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be. In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:43:45
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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whembly wrote: d-usa wrote:Are we still pretending this is all about a single isolated case of "somebody shot somebody and they weren't the same color" and was not influenced by anything else?
No... but, if you wanted "justice" for Brown...
So you are pretending this is about one isolated case without any relationship to anything else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:51:56
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Relapse wrote:
My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.
While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:53:17
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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dogma wrote:Relapse wrote:
My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.
While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.
You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:55:45
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Relapse wrote: In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.
I've read several blogs in which race is mentioned, and you're mentioning it now. The reason SLC is not being carried at a national level is the absence of massive riots.
I don't see how this is hard to understand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:57:42
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ahtman wrote: dogma wrote:Relapse wrote:
My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.
While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.
You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!
Like a wiseman once said:
Of course he also said:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 02:58:35
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 03:01:32
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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cincydooley wrote:Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......
No, it doesn't. That's a forced comparison made by people that don't understand how "race" works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 03:29:13
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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dogma wrote: cincydooley wrote:Riots that seem to stem from a racial element of the shooting, of which the SLC shooting also has.......
No, it doesn't. That's a forced comparison made by people that don't understand how "race" works.
I understand how race works just fine, thanks, and I disagree.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 03:31:16
Subject: Re:Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Fixture of Dakka
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dogma wrote:Relapse wrote: In the Salt Lake story, race isn't mentioned. I know about the race of the officer because of a blurb that was in another local carrier. With the Ferguson shooting, that was the big angle being played on as well as the anger that Brown was revealed as a bully and thief.
I've read several blogs in which race is mentioned, and you're mentioning it now. The reason SLC is not being carried at a national level is the absence of massive riots.
I don't see how this is hard to understand.
I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old. Automatically Appended Next Post: d-usa wrote: Ahtman wrote: dogma wrote:Relapse wrote:
My view is that the media threw the officer under the bus, stirring things up past where they would be.
While that's nice, it doesn't fit the facts or opinions of those close to the matter.
You don't need facts or empathy when you have an opinion!
Like a wiseman once said:
Of course he also said:

As is being well proven in Ferguson.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 03:49:40
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Disagree with what?
Relapse wrote:
I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old.
It didn't become a major story until the riots began.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 03:53:51
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Fixture of Dakka
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dogma wrote:
Disagree with what?
Relapse wrote:
I'm talking about major news carriers handling it in the way it was handled in Ferguson, though. There were no riots happening at the time the shooting happened, yet it was all over that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen, complete with pictures of Brown as a 13 year old.
It didn't become a major story until the riots began.
Actually it was all over the news that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen. Then the riots began.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 04:00:24
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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dogma wrote:
It didn't become a major story until the riots began.
Uh...yeah it was. It was cop kills unarmed black kid. It was instant Trayvon Martin comparisons.
I had to find out from the friggin Blaze, of all places, that the Dillon Taylor shooting even happened. I mean Christ, go to the MSNBC website. There are three FEATURED stories about Ferguson. If you search Michael Brown on their site there are 600+ returns. If you search Dillon Taylor there are 0. Salt Lake City Shooting Yields, again, 0 results. Ferguson Shooting? 231.
It's a little bit ridiculous, TBH. I knew there was a disparity, but I have to admit I didn't think it would be THAT egregious on MSNBC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 04:02:58
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Fixture of Dakka
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cincydooley wrote: dogma wrote:
It didn't become a major story until the riots began.
Uh...yeah it was. It was cop kills unarmed black kid. It was instant Trayvon Martin comparisons.
I had to find out from the friggin Blaze, of all places, that the Dillon Taylor shooting even happened. I mean Christ, go to the MSNBC website. There are three FEATURED stories about Ferguson. If you search Michael Brown on their site there are 600+ returns. If you search Dillon Taylor there are 0. Salt Lake City Shooting Yields, again, 0 results. Ferguson Shooting? 231.
It's a little bit ridiculous, TBH. I knew there was a disparity, but I have to admit I didn't think it would be THAT egregious on MSNBC.
Welcome to the wonderful world of race baiting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 04:04:50
Subject: Violent protest erupts in Ferguson, MO over deadly police shooting
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Relapse wrote:
Actually it was all over the news that a white cop shot an unarmed black teen. Then the riots began.
Do you have an example? Because I didn't hear about the shooting until the riots began.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 04:06:39
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This whole "race baiting" thing is just a sad excuse to actually ignore why stuff happens....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 04:10:53
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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d-usa wrote:This whole "race baiting" thing is just a sad excuse to actually ignore why stuff happens....
While I agree, the disparity in the coverage is both appalling and shocking.
Like I said, I knew there'd be a pretty large gap. I couldn't believe MSNBC didn't have a single story.....
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