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 Shakalooloo wrote:

Ancient Otter wrote:
Striking Scorpions and SM Scouts on pre-order next week.Guess rules will be part of the next KT annual.

Wow, they're both in ten models to a box!

Well, they'll be packaged as Kill Teams (rather than 40k squad boxes) so that makes sense.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Ancient Otter wrote:
Striking Scorpions and SM Scouts on pre-order next week.Guess rules will be part of the next KT annual.

Wow, they're both in ten models to a box!

Well, they'll be packaged as Kill Teams (rather than 40k squad boxes) so that makes sense.

But still... Striking Scorpions vs. Howling Banshees boxes will look very strange!

GSC vs Votann for the next box:

said this in the other thread, but seeing the actual models with their upgrade sprue, i'm a lot more fine with this than "brood brothers kill team" made me think. the upgrades are pretty extensive here, giving them a completely different feel. plus, the patriarch/magus/primus kit coming in the box makes it a lot more tempting than it otherwise would be. i'm shockingly fine with this release

Space Suits with Trench Coats is the new Great Coat with Opera Cape.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Space Suits with Trench Coats is the new Great Coat with Opera Cape.

Right? This is the bee's knees of Void armor (with... really big zippers down the front, mind). Some basic temperature regulation seems part of the package.
The one with armor, the belted coat and a tasseled cloak and a sniper rifle seems to be humping far too much kit, the poor blighter.

I'm not sure what I think about the Votann team. I want to like it but trenchcoat over armor is weird.

M.

I think it could work, but with the trench coat painted more as camouflage rather than leather.

Kinda like this one from Sharpe:

Would be great if the container door can be opened.

Love the new Votann. I really want to see the "basic" loadout they get. I assume it's the shotguns.

I know this was just as true of the old upgrade kit, but are Brood Brothers canonically hybrids now? I haven't followed the fluff closely enough.

Easy enough to use Cadian heads with the cult accoutrements and the odd hybrid leader if you don't like that, obviously.

Votann do nothing to me but I bloody love BB team. Finally some love for GSC. Medic is my favourite one.

My gripe with the Cults is that it makes a unique vanguard organism Tyranid team much less likely in the near future :(

They look like a bunch of overweight children cosplaying as Creed.

I like the Plasma gen cubes, and from the talks I gather the Brood brothers Killteam will be a very popular one in tourneys. Tons of flexibility, and Patriarch's mind control ability sounds like a fun new mechanic.

The Votann pioneer team kind of worries me, they might turn out really OP/broken with their new abilities that let them build a repo of points to use for APL increase and healing later during the game. We'll see.

Overall, I like the new teams, but really cant get excited about Bheta Decima as a killzone. I will probably get the Cubes for my terrain collection from ebay and otherwise skip this box.

The terrain is quite underdetailed for its size.

Teams both look good, might make their way into Necromunda campaigns I bet.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The terrain is quite underdetailed for its size.

But shouldn't it be like that, just big boxes producing plasma, without any fancy stuff?

I wonder if those plasma generators fit on the Cargo 8 Ridgehauler trailers. They look like they are meant to be portable.

Cyel wrote:
My gripe with the Cults is that it makes a unique vanguard organism Tyranid team much less likely in the near future :(

GSC getting just a simple upgrade sprue released alongside existing kits at least makes a bespoke Tyranid Kill Team more likely to happen eventually.

But yeah I doubt it will be the next release slot for this season. In order to do anything substantial (like new warriors/shrikes) I suspect they would more likely be in a launch box for a new season/edition.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
said this in the other thread, but seeing the actual models with their upgrade sprue, i'm a lot more fine with this than "brood brothers kill team" made me think. the upgrades are pretty extensive here, giving them a completely different feel. plus, the patriarch/magus/primus kit coming in the box makes it a lot more tempting than it otherwise would be. i'm shockingly fine with this release

Looks like there aren't many new parts. All the heads, obviously, and the icon, plus the arms of the leader and power maul dude. Most of the other bits are from the Cadian kit.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
said this in the other thread, but seeing the actual models with their upgrade sprue, i'm a lot more fine with this than "brood brothers kill team" made me think. the upgrades are pretty extensive here, giving them a completely different feel. plus, the patriarch/magus/primus kit coming in the box makes it a lot more tempting than it otherwise would be. i'm shockingly fine with this release

Looks like there aren't many new parts. All the heads, obviously, and the icon, plus the arms of the leader and power maul dude. Most of the other bits are from the Cadian kit.

Sniper rifle, shotgun, power sword, medic bits are all from the upgrade frame too.

twoseventwo wrote:
I know this was just as true of the old upgrade kit, but are Brood Brothers canonically hybrids now? I haven't followed the fluff closely enough.

Easy enough to use Cadian heads with the cult accoutrements and the odd hybrid leader if you don't like that, obviously.

BB are infected with the genestealer virus/organ thing that alters their biology so they can spawn hybrids.
Maybe they just decided that should show more blatantly after a while? I mean if they live long enough post-infection their cells are going to start reproducing with the new sequences…
Not so sure about claw-guy though. Might paint that up as a bionic… or even a “bionic” graft of some kind. Like” oops me arm’s off, anyone got a spare?”

The shotgun is a neat touch- it is a salvaged Arbites gun presumably "liberated" from a now quashed pocket of Imperial resistance.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
said this in the other thread, but seeing the actual models with their upgrade sprue, i'm a lot more fine with this than "brood brothers kill team" made me think. the upgrades are pretty extensive here, giving them a completely different feel. plus, the patriarch/magus/primus kit coming in the box makes it a lot more tempting than it otherwise would be. i'm shockingly fine with this release

Looks like there aren't many new parts. All the heads, obviously, and the icon, plus the arms of the leader and power maul dude. Most of the other bits are from the Cadian kit.

Sniper rifle, shotgun, power sword, medic bits are all from the upgrade frame too.

There's also a dynamite grenadier and a dual knife wielding 'flensor' type in the videos but not in the squad of 10.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
said this in the other thread, but seeing the actual models with their upgrade sprue, i'm a lot more fine with this than "brood brothers kill team" made me think. the upgrades are pretty extensive here, giving them a completely different feel. plus, the patriarch/magus/primus kit coming in the box makes it a lot more tempting than it otherwise would be. i'm shockingly fine with this release

Looks like there aren't many new parts. All the heads, obviously, and the icon, plus the arms of the leader and power maul dude. Most of the other bits are from the Cadian kit.

Sniper rifle, shotgun, power sword, medic bits are all from the upgrade frame too.

Ahhh, I'm mixing up my Kriegs and Cadians! It was the former that had a sniper and a medic bag thrown over the shoudler, wasn't it!

2 left arm knife bit for GSC, 1 right arm knife , there're another right arm knife on the Cadian shock troop kit. Arbite shotgun would have been great for conversion if the hands were human, unfortunately it isn't.

Also apparently the pump on the bolt shotgun actually work so I guess it work kinda like a nerf gun with the pump rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer.

I like that Votann kit, it's exactly what I was expecting as a unit for the main army. I'm just surprised at another Votann kit so soon. But can't complain!

My only point of critique for the Votann team is that GW doesnt really sculpt nice cloaks/hoodies/trenchcoats. The sense of volume in them is always off somehow

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The terrain is quite underdetailed for its size.

I kind of agree with you, but the new plasma cubes have the same chunkiness to them that the Battlezone Fronteris terrain has. If you have any of that, the new kill team terrain will fit well with that.

Quite a nice box I must say, if at the same price as the previous Scouts'n'Scorpions one.

The Patriarch is a team all of it's own, I'd say...