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My poor broken Dinoriding heart. Thanks for the info guys

I'm not sure how cool Exodites would be if they were confined to Kill team. Unless they had some dinosaur (winged or otherwise) as a pet with its own base, I doubt we'd get any form of dino-riders or anything outside of the standard eldar falconer featuring a beastie

 GaroRobe wrote:
I'm not sure how cool Exodites would be if they were confined to Kill team. Unless they had some dinosaur (winged or otherwise) as a pet with its own base, I doubt we'd get any form of dino-riders or anything outside of the standard eldar falconer featuring a beastie

I think the unstated assumption behind the clamouring for an Exodite killteam is that it would be something like a sneak preview of a larger force or even whole codex that would have to follow soon after it. I personally don't get that, as that has not really been true for other KTs, and GW seem to be reluctant to support the existing Eldar tribes as-is, and have another basically failed tribe on their hands in form of the Ynnari, which does not bode well for any attempts at Exodites anytime soon.

Danny76 wrote:
So Gallowdark part 4.
Tomorrow is ore order?
What price is it going to be? What were 2&3, presumably it’ll be the same in £’s right?

Same price as Soulshackle

Gallowfall is £110, €145, $185
Exaction Squad £37.50, €50, $60
Soulshackle upgrade sprue is direct only

Tsagualsa wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I'm not sure how cool Exodites would be if they were confined to Kill team. Unless they had some dinosaur (winged or otherwise) as a pet with its own base, I doubt we'd get any form of dino-riders or anything outside of the standard eldar falconer featuring a beastie

I think the unstated assumption behind the clamouring for an Exodite killteam is that it would be something like a sneak preview of a larger force or even whole codex that would have to follow soon after it. I personally don't get that, as that has not really been true for other KTs, and GW seem to be reluctant to support the existing Eldar tribes as-is, and have another basically failed tribe on their hands in form of the Ynnari, which does not bode well for any attempts at Exodites anytime soon.

Exodites do at least have a stronger theme to them than the Ynnari, and can probably end up with a aesthetic that is distinct from the other branches of the Eldar without going too feral.

On the other hand, the games have enough Space Elves in already - gief moar Space Dwarfs, please and thank you.

 Dysartes wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I'm not sure how cool Exodites would be if they were confined to Kill team. Unless they had some dinosaur (winged or otherwise) as a pet with its own base, I doubt we'd get any form of dino-riders or anything outside of the standard eldar falconer featuring a beastie

I think the unstated assumption behind the clamouring for an Exodite killteam is that it would be something like a sneak preview of a larger force or even whole codex that would have to follow soon after it. I personally don't get that, as that has not really been true for other KTs, and GW seem to be reluctant to support the existing Eldar tribes as-is, and have another basically failed tribe on their hands in form of the Ynnari, which does not bode well for any attempts at Exodites anytime soon.

Exodites do at least have a stronger theme to them than the Ynnari, and can probably end up with a aesthetic that is distinct from the other branches of the Eldar without going too feral.

On the other hand, the games have enough Space Elves in already - gief moar Space Dwarfs, please and thank you.

Space chaos dwarfs. Or rather the insane/radio controlled minions of the grieving Mad Votann…

 Dysartes wrote:

Exodites do at least have a stronger theme to them than the Ynnari, and can probably end up with a aesthetic that is distinct from the other branches of the Eldar without going too feral.

Personal opinion:
I think Ynnari have just as strong of a theme and potentially as strong of an aesthetic, but the main issue is that Ynnari don't have the nostalgia factor that Exodites seem to have nor do the Ynnari currently have their own dedicated units aside from a trio of characters while the Exodites, again, have that nostalgia factor of things that were.

Of that trio of Ynnari characters? Only the Visarch is the one that we know is supposed to have a "Ynnari" aesthetic. In one of the video VoxCasts that they did, Goodwin had made reference to the aesthetic of the Ynnari being exemplified by the Visarch's model, being less spiky than a Drukhari but still a baroque piece showcasing the way that the old Aeldari Empires had things looking, with the Ynnari elements being the sculpted motifs and the like.


With all that out of the way? I feel like Exodites are likely to happen at some point, but I'd rather see the Ynnari get some fleshing out before we bring the Exodites in--even if it's via Kill Team.

On the other hand, the games have enough Space Elves in already - gief moar Space Dwarfs, please and thank you.

It would be cool to see the Ironhead Squats get ported out of Necromunda into the League as well, given the League's resurgence into the galaxy at large!

I think the Ynnari have the potential to be something quite interesting, but they also appear to be something that GW lost all interest in after the fall of Cadia and have basically paid them lip-service ever since.

I mean even the current Eldar Codex, which I hold as the gold-standard of Codex structure against which all Codices of this style should have been based (looking at you, current Guard Codex ), hasn't done a huge amount with them. Granted, they have a bigger write up than the Craftworlds do, but it feels like a draft document, a "Here's what we're kinda getting at with these guys!" set of rules. Bare bones, not fleshed out, oh if only we had more time. That kind of thing.

And it's a shame, because it's the first really new thing they've done with the Eldar in ages other than inventing aircraft Aspect Warriors.

Maybe it's time to start a rumor about Epic Exodites, like we were promised in the 90s?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Exodites do at least have a stronger theme to them than the Ynnari, and can probably end up with a aesthetic that is distinct from the other branches of the Eldar without going too feral.

Personal opinion:
I think Ynnari have just as strong of a theme and potentially as strong of an aesthetic, but the main issue is that Ynnari don't have the nostalgia factor that Exodites seem to have nor do the Ynnari currently have their own dedicated units aside from a trio of characters while the Exodites, again, have that nostalgia factor of things that were.

Of that trio of Ynnari characters? Only the Visarch is the one that we know is supposed to have a "Ynnari" aesthetic. In one of the video VoxCasts that they did, Goodwin had made reference to the aesthetic of the Ynnari being exemplified by the Visarch's model, being less spiky than a Drukhari but still a baroque piece showcasing the way that the old Aeldari Empires had things looking, with the Ynnari elements being the sculpted motifs and the like.


With all that out of the way? I feel like Exodites are likely to happen at some point, but I'd rather see the Ynnari get some fleshing out before we bring the Exodites in--even if it's via Kill Team.

Agreed.

On the other hand, the games have enough Space Elves in already - gief moar Space Dwarfs, please and thank you.

It would be cool to see the Ironhead Squats get ported out of Necromunda into the League as well, given the League's resurgence into the galaxy at large!

Personally, I'd like to keep a distinction between Squats and Kin as related lineages that diverged some time ago, with Squats being the oppressed abhuman group within the Imperium and the Kin their free cousins. I see the Necromunda squats as examples of the former. I'd like to see a unit for the Astra Militarum of Squat auxiliaries in the same style as the Necromunda hired gun squat (I'd also like Imperial Beastmen auxiliaries in the style of the beastman hired gun).

Speaking of Squats, here's the new Kill Team's preview article (now with 200% more Swedish Chef inspired names):

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/04/jump-packs-kinlynks-and-concussive-knuckles-make-hearthkyn-salvagers-the-ultimate-explorers/

 Geifer wrote:
Speaking of Squats, here's the new Kill Team's preview article (now with 200% more Swedish Chef inspired names):

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/04/jump-packs-kinlynks-and-concussive-knuckles-make-hearthkyn-salvagers-the-ultimate-explorers/

The dude going 'Spacehulk? Genestealers, Demons, Orks, whatever weird stuff the universe can throw at me? Time to break out the knuckle dusters and leave half me armour at home' has to be one of the gloriously dumbest concept of all time

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Speaking of Squats, here's the new Kill Team's preview article (now with 200% more Swedish Chef inspired names):

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/04/jump-packs-kinlynks-and-concussive-knuckles-make-hearthkyn-salvagers-the-ultimate-explorers/

The dude going 'Spacehulk? Genestealers, Demons, Orks, whatever weird stuff the universe can throw at me? Time to break out the knuckle dusters and leave half me armour at home' has to be one of the gloriously dumbest concept of all time

It occurs to me that the world must have moved on while I wasn't looking. All you kids with your weird modern ideas cannot even comprehend how normal and unworthy of note a sleeveless space dwarf with knuckle dusters looks.

 Geifer wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Speaking of Squats, here's the new Kill Team's preview article (now with 200% more Swedish Chef inspired names):

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/04/jump-packs-kinlynks-and-concussive-knuckles-make-hearthkyn-salvagers-the-ultimate-explorers/

The dude going 'Spacehulk? Genestealers, Demons, Orks, whatever weird stuff the universe can throw at me? Time to break out the knuckle dusters and leave half me armour at home' has to be one of the gloriously dumbest concept of all time

It occurs to me that the world must have moved on while I wasn't looking. All you kids with your weird modern ideas cannot even comprehend how normal and unworthy of note a sleeveless space dwarf with knuckle dusters looks.

IMHO he should be equipped with a broken barstool leg and a half-drunken can of Foster's.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Speaking of Squats, here's the new Kill Team's preview article (now with 200% more Swedish Chef inspired names):

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/04/jump-packs-kinlynks-and-concussive-knuckles-make-hearthkyn-salvagers-the-ultimate-explorers/

The dude going 'Spacehulk? Genestealers, Demons, Orks, whatever weird stuff the universe can throw at me? Time to break out the knuckle dusters and leave half me armour at home' has to be one of the gloriously dumbest concept of all time

It occurs to me that the world must have moved on while I wasn't looking. All you kids with your weird modern ideas cannot even comprehend how normal and unworthy of note a sleeveless space dwarf with knuckle dusters looks.

IMHO he should be equipped with a broken barstool leg and a half-drunken can of Foster's.

And should have a Mohawk with a Mom tattoo on his sleeveless arm

And annoyingly Dark Sphere have said no pre-order for me due to lack of stock.

Actually the dude with the knuckles is my favourite one. That alone sells the full sprue.


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The_Real_Chris wrote:
And annoyingly Dark Sphere have said no pre-order for me due to lack of stock.

Haven't been there in years but now work takes me to London every week. How well stocked is dark sphere these days?

Knuckle duster dude makes me think of the South Park reference "I didn't hear no bell". He's also part of the reason why I want to get the box.

Do people think that a new edition of Kill Team will come out with the new season coming out in Autumn, or would it come after the new season runs it's course? The current edition came out just over a year after 9th edition iirc.

If Epic is coming out late this year, and new edition of AoS next summer, I'd guess at least the 3nd of next year for any new Kill Team, both to give it time for another full season and to make room potentially for TOW.

The_Real_Chris wrote:
And annoyingly Dark Sphere have said no pre-order for me due to lack of stock.

Is that before even the preorder? Already ran out?

Danny76 wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:
And annoyingly Dark Sphere have said no pre-order for me due to lack of stock.

Is that before even the preorder? Already ran out?

Well my usual go-to supplier also announced that they won't take any online (pre-)orders as they have been alloted a total of 4 sets... for which they won't go through the hassle of a potential break down of their website and unhappy customers. I assume they'll sell in their store.

It seems to be the usual crappy supply once again.

I'll try to get a box... But I don't have high hopes....

Yeah very annoying. Then I have to weigh up whether to try full price GW, and still of course potentially not get it.

Is it a new thing that 360 degree photos and images of the models and squads arent available for the new releases? I noticed it on the recent kill team stuf and todays gallowfall and Arbites teams?

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Is it a new thing that 360 degree photos and images of the models and squads arent available for the new releases? I noticed it on the recent kill team stuf and todays gallowfall and Arbites teams?

Pretty sure 360s are still the norm. GW did get somewhat sloppy in this regard in the last few years and some kits/webstore pages don't get them. That doesn't seem like a deliberate shift away from 360° views, though.

Turns out Gallowfall has been posted early on the australian webpage (don't change zone or the site disappears)

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/kill-team-gallowfall-2023-eng

 Geifer wrote:

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Is it a new thing that 360 degree photos and images of the models and squads arent available for the new releases? I noticed it on the recent kill team stuf and todays gallowfall and Arbites teams?

Pretty sure 360s are still the norm. GW did get somewhat sloppy in this regard in the last few years and some kits/webstore pages don't get them. That doesn't seem like a deliberate shift away from 360° views, though.

I guess their photography/videography department is or was a bit preoccupied in the last months, with having to do a lot of hype material for 10th edition 40k and Warhammerfest/Adepticon, and Arks of Omen stuff beforehand, the side-games probably got a bit, well, sidetracked during that phase. I don't know how many people they employ there, but it can't be that huge of an operation. And ofc. the studio models have been travelling around a lot as well.

That's nothing new, I can always see tomorrow's releases by changing timezone to new zealand after midnight UK time.

Here is my review ofGallowfall with some nice high-res sprue pics. Be aware that store allocations are once again super low, so this box WILL sell out quickly 🙈

Check it out here:
https://taleofpainters.com/2023/05/review-kill-team-gallowfall/

Ended up buying it from GW at 9:57AM, I'm glad that I did as it never appeared on my usual discount retailers sites. It did appear on Alchemists Workshop before 10:00AM but it went straight to "out of stock".

What the hell?? Sold out by 1002 at GW! And none of my regular retailers are offering any stock? Effing ridiculous.