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Yeah, I'm also getting the defiler eventually, it looks really great and judging from the uploaded instructions it looks fun to build as well.

There is no reason to get it now unless you want to rush it to tournaments as soon as possible.

Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

That’s a good question.

I think the Defiler just pips it, as it feels like the original idea tarted up. The Biovore, whilst an improvement for me, is pretty damned different.

I Will pick up a defiler as soon as I can find it in the local store, no hurry. Havnt really bough anything for 40K since the box with new SW, but this got my attention. Hope they get to Vashtor minions soon.

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

I like the old Defiler too much to give it the win here. Sure, it's dated now, but the design is effective, much more so than the Biovore gorilla was.

With that said, the ultimately best glow-up is the Sister Dialogus.

Same here. I love both models, but the new one fits in much better with the new DG demon engines. I absolutely plan to play both.

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

I'd probably rate anything Dark Eldar higher, their transition from 3rd edition monstrosities to 5th edition outstanding minis is still unique.
Also, I don't find the new Deffy better than the old one. And given the massive price rise I'd give the win to the old one.

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

The Defiler, claws down. I'm getting two (hopefully). One to make generic CSM, and the other to make Thousand Sons. Gonna pick up a Space Wolves dreadnought to use as a basing decoration for the second one.

@Lathe: No, the SW dread will not still be on its feet. Or, for that matter, in one piece.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

The Defiler, claws down. I'm getting two (hopefully). One to make generic CSM, and the other to make Thousand Sons. Gonna pick up a Space Wolves dreadnought to use as a basing decoration for the second one.

@Lathe: No, the SW dread will not still be on its feet. Or, for that matter, in one piece.

You know me too well...


I had assumed the Space Wolf Dreadnought would have been on its back and the hatch open with the Space Wolf climbing out.

This way, anyone who looks at it would know the honorable Space Wolf is giving the Defiler better odds of not instantly losing in a fight.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I'm now torn - is the Defiler update the best grow up from ugly to awesome

Or was it the biovore?

I'd probably rate anything Dark Eldar higher, their transition from 3rd edition monstrosities to 5th edition outstanding minis is still unique.
Also, I don't find the new Deffy better than the old one. And given the massive price rise I'd give the win to the old one.

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And that’s pretty much that.

I realize it’s crossing out of 40k, and there are other worthy contenders, but I’ll live and die on Nagash!

Valete,

JohnS

I didnt really like the old defiler, but actually find the soulgrinder to be a great model (own 3 of those). Dont expect the soulgrinder to be not-legends in 11th however.

The new Biovore is so different from it's predecessor that I don't even count it as a glowup. It's a straight up redesign.

And I can barely tell the difference between it and the Pyrovore.

The new Defiler kit looks amazing. So many options, good poseability.

I'm surprised and disappointed that the Mutilors don't get any head options.

New vs old Sanguinary Guard? Hahahahahaha just kidding.