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I wonder how they would deploy a Land Raider by airdrop tbh. I know the odd tech to deploy armor from aircraft without the "landing" bit inbetween but only with comparatively light APCs, not huge-ass tankdozers of flaming destruction.

 Kosake wrote:
I wonder how they would deploy a Land Raider by airdrop tbh. I know the odd tech to deploy armor from aircraft without the "landing" bit inbetween but only with comparatively light APCs, not huge-ass tankdozers of flaming destruction.

Yeah, but that would require the whole thing to land. Ain't that much space everywhere on the field, though you probably won't try to deploy a raider right into dense ruins... or would they...?

Don't they just drop their vehicles routinely? On account of Space Marines just being that much tougher than normal people.

Can we have a new thread or an updated OP please. I don't want to read 34 pages to get to the actual info.

 Orlanth wrote:
Can we have a new thread or an updated OP please. I don't want to read 34 pages to get to the actual info.

Agreed.
Don't mind people going off in tangents in discussions, so long as the important info is easy to find.
(it's really frustrating when the OP of a popular thread doesn't keep the first post updated with the most pertinent information)

 Kosake wrote:
Yeah, but that would require the whole thing to land. Ain't that much space everywhere on the field, though you probably won't try to deploy a raider right into dense ruins... or would they...?

They would. IIRC the Thunderhead Transporter drops its cargo without actually landing. They just fly over the designated landing zone, release the clamps and gravity will do the rest.

We're wandering a bit off topic here, aren't we?

 Alpharius wrote:
We're wandering a bit off topic here, aren't we?

Haven't we for the better part of 34 pages?

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
We're wandering a bit off topic here, aren't we?

Haven't we for the better part of 34 pages?

Just rename the thread to "the official pass-the-time-until-7th-ed.-hits-the-shelves-thread". I for one would be for a sticky locked update overview where one of the mods keeps the infos updated while speculation, wishlisting and off-topic banter is dropped here. Just my 2cts.

 Kosake wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
We're wandering a bit off topic here, aren't we?

Haven't we for the better part of 34 pages?

Just rename the thread to "the official pass-the-time-until-7th-ed.-hits-the-shelves-thread". I for one would be for a sticky locked update overview where one of the mods keeps the infos updated while speculation, wishlisting and off-topic banter is dropped here. Just my 2cts.

How do we make this happen?

 Kosake wrote:
I wonder how they would deploy a Land Raider by airdrop tbh. I know the odd tech to deploy armor from aircraft without the "landing" bit inbetween but only with comparatively light APCs, not huge-ass tankdozers of flaming destruction.

38,000 years in the future. Granted I'd expect soldiers to remotely control robots with nuclear megaton death lasers shooting out from their eyes and not be running at each other with chainsaws instead but.... again... 38,000 years in the future. There is plenty of time to find a viable solution between now and the fictional then.

 warboss wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
I wonder how they would deploy a Land Raider by airdrop tbh. I know the odd tech to deploy armor from aircraft without the "landing" bit inbetween but only with comparatively light APCs, not huge-ass tankdozers of flaming destruction.

38,000 years in the future. Granted I'd expect soldiers to remotely control robots with nuclear megaton death lasers shooting out from their eyes and not be running at each other with chainsaws instead but.... again... 38,000 years in the future. There is plenty of time to find a viable solution between now and the fictional then.

Well, they did do that 18,000 years in the future. Then the robots rebelled. Then the warp came along. So by 30K they are picking up the pieces, then the Heresy hits, and they are left with less pieces. It's the quote about WW IV being fought with Sticks and Stones writ large.

lol idk, lets just ask the thread owner! Not all of this robot nonsense.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
I wonder how they would deploy a Land Raider by airdrop tbh. I know the odd tech to deploy armor from aircraft without the "landing" bit inbetween but only with comparatively light APCs, not huge-ass tankdozers of flaming destruction.

38,000 years in the future. Granted I'd expect soldiers to remotely control robots with nuclear megaton death lasers shooting out from their eyes and not be running at each other with chainsaws instead but.... again... 38,000 years in the future. There is plenty of time to find a viable solution between now and the fictional then.

Well, they did do that 18,000 years in the future. Then the robots rebelled. Then the warp came along. So by 30K they are picking up the pieces, then the Heresy hits, and they are left with less pieces. It's the quote about WW IV being fought with Sticks and Stones writ large.

Agree.

Remember that humans were hunter-gatherers for over 100,000 years.

Time can - and will - pass quickly when your children end up living just the way you did (namely just like your parents).

Just to add to the thread, a fairly well informed French source (Cheque Varan) put on the forum Warhammer-forum.com that the 7th edition rulebook was "with the printer".

[edit]http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=212395&view=findpost&p=2521180 here for the original post if you want to improve your froggie reading skills

 JeffVimes wrote:
Just to add to the thread, a fairly well informed French source (Cheque Varan) put on the forum Warhammer-forum.com that the 7th edition rulebook was "with the printer".

[edit]http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=212395&view=findpost&p=2521180 here for the original post if you want to improve your froggie reding skills

Well, that sounds promising. Though I'd be biting large chunks out of my ass right now if I had bought the 6th ed book. 124 USD is the current GW price I see. Not anouncing the new edition and making people buy the core book at the full price right untill 7th hits the shelves seems like a bad buisness practice to me.

Translated by google
Yes and no ! Assuming that ES emerge in May , after all, why not y ' figos that were made , there was no rules and setting prod ( however I doubt the book of 40K rules is at this very moment in the printer, if it was the case of ES is not too ) short ! Let ! It would mean nothing that changes the game of what has been said for the V9 . The idea is to streamline the range and not support those that are not enough butter ( 1% or less of sales, in the case of HB and RTD but I do not know the numbers of ES that said, to for comparison the success of WHB are the CV 8% , it is behind EN, chaos , HL ), so we can also say that this is the ultimate test before shelved , and tests they have done recently , they had to demonstrate that lower the cost of some boxes did not sell more, should buy iN ...
Information that I bring are more recent but they all involve former GW rather well placed and disgusted by what the box prepared , they are the ones who reported the discussions about a possible stop WHB because it was discussed this is not the preferred option but must keep in mind that if an outright stoppage of play has been discussed , the future of an army or even anecdotal fluff are next to it .

And in french
Oui et non! En admettant que les ES ressortent en mai, après tout pourquoi pas y'a des figos qui ont été faites, il manquait des règles et une mise en prod (ceci dit j'en doute le livre de règles 40K est en ce moment même chez l'imprimeur, si c'était le cas des ES on le saurait aussi), bref! Admettons! Cela signifierait en rien qu'on change la donne de ce qui a été dit pour la V9. L'idée c'est de rationaliser les gammes et pas soutenir celles qui font pas assez de beurre (1% ou moins des ventes, c'est le cas des HB et des RDT mais je connais pas les chiffres des ES ceci dit, à titre de comparaison le succès de WHB ce sont les CV avec 8%, on trouve derrière EN, chaos,HL), donc on peut aussi se dire qu'il s'agit de l'ultime test avant mise au placard, et des tests ils en ont fait récemment, ils ont eu la démonstration que baisser le coût de certaines boîtes ne les faisait pas vendre plus, fallait acheter des EN...
Les infos que je rapporte sont plus toutes récentes mais elles impliquent des anciens de GW, plutôt bien placés et écoeurés par ce que la boîte préparait, ce sont eux qui avaient rapporté les discussions quant à un possible arrêt de WHB parce que cela a été discuté, c'est pas l'option retenue mais faut bien garder à l'esprit que si un arrêt pur et simple du jeu ait pu être discuté, l'avenir d'une armée ou même le fluff sont très anecdotiques à côté de ça.

Your part in orange is wrongly translated. He says "However I doubt it [that the rules for wood elves are in prod for a may release] as the 40k rulebook is in the printer at the moment and if it would have also been the case for the Elves one we would have known"

Source: French is my mother tongue...

 JeffVimes wrote:
Your part in orange is wrongly translated. He says "However I doubt it [that the rules for wood elves are in prod for a may release] as the 40k rulebook is in the printer at the moment and if it would have also been the case for the Elves one we would have known"

Source: French is my mother tongue...

Seconded. And I have a French flag next to my pseudo !

 JeffVimes wrote:
Your part in orange is wrongly translated. He says "However I doubt it [that the rules for wood elves are in prod for a may release] as the 40k rulebook is in the printer at the moment and if it would have also been the case for the Elves one we would have known"

Source: French is my mother tongue...

Which is why I posted it in french as well. I don't trust google translator.

7th in the printing stage is good news

Except for all those people who bought sixth recently.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Except for all those people who bought sixth recently.

Had I bought 6th the week before 7th I would be happy to have never had to suffer through the mess it is honestly. Knowing what I know now having endured this much of that edition I'd gladly have payed double for an even slightly better edition. Lets hope 7th isn't WORSE!

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Except for all those people who bought sixth recently.

Ironically in relative rulebook support terms, *everybody* bought sixth recently.

We'll know that 7th is coming in the next month if there are big double-page spreads and adverts for the 6th edition box set and rule book in White Dwarf.

I'm only half joking, they did this with 6th edition.

 Bull0 wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Except for all those people who bought sixth recently.

Ironically in relative rulebook support terms, *everybody* bought sixth recently.

I got the fat book a few weeks ago... Hopefully it isn't totally obsolete so soon...

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Except for all those people who bought sixth recently.

Had I bought 6th the week before 7th I would be happy to have never had to suffer through the mess it is honestly. Knowing what I know now having endured this much of that edition I'd gladly have payed double for an even slightly better edition. Lets hope 7th isn't WORSE!

Agreed on all counts.

I bought DV so at least I got something else for my money.

Its really funny because I bet some of us who bought 6th late last year or even this year and actually decided to paint some miniatures before playing, will probably not even get a game in before 7th pops up. Especially those for whom real life gets in the way of wargaming...An edition with a shelf life of 2 years is just plain wrong. What if 7th edition also only has a shelf life of 2 years before 40k 8th edition, the one that supposedly "fixes all problems", is released?

Given GW's accelerated codex release schedule, and given them switching over to weekly WDs, this isnt too far fetched a thought.

I bought one of the limited edition copies of the 6th edition rulebook, with thicker parchment page and a corner embossed in gold with its unique number out of the 4000 printed. I protected it and kept from making a mess of it, using the DV copy for rule purposes, while the encased LE copy sat like a holy tomb in my library.

Seems so foolish and vain now, to see that book go from something of value to nearly worthless...and it will, too, since most of the fluff will be repeated and there will be a *new* LE 7th edition, most likely covered in gold, surrounded by "BUY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST!"

6th edition Limited Edition...I feel so very used...