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I will only accept when people are saying it about what happened to them or about them unless it is really obviously a joke about their army and only if people are friends and are all right with it.

I vary my word usage. My main point is making sure not to overuse any one word or phrase, though I could care less if it's "offensive" or not when I'm around the usual crowd. When the old lady with her grandson comes in I'll definitely use the light version of whatever I was going to say.

Who cares.

It's all about context, not words. Any bad language is fine, just don't threaten or insult me, even if you don't use "bad" words.

I think it's acceptable if you are unlucky (as in rolling 5 2s and 3 1s when shooting with veterans) but, like most of the people that have posted here, i disagree with excessive swearing, andthe furthest it ever goes is the s-bomb (only in very extreme cases, at that, as in kharn being nailed by a hunter killer- you'd of thought he would have had eternal warrior.)

Meh. The idea that words can be "bad" or "good" is giving them power. To suggest that words have power by themselves is to indicate a misguided belief in "majik"; using power words and all that. The equivalent of feck happens to have one of the most robust histories in all of worddom (My word!!!) and is a noun, verb, etc. all at the same time. The most versatile word in history! It can be good, bad, implied, shouted, whispered, emoted, communicated without sound (middle finger!) etc.

I have children that are aged 11, 9 and 4 and they've heard it all from their sailor dad; me! I don't give two donkey ****s what any ****ing body says. They're top of their class, brilliant students that, like myself, appreciate it as a form of expression, and, occasionally a well wordsmithed art form. I generally want to punch people in the face that think a word by itself is for some reason magical, or taboo. It's the emotion conveyed by the word. I can say "I'll see you later." with gritted teeth at the end of a game and have somebody worried about what I'll do later, vice saying "Feck this game. I rolled like a **** in a ***house on ****." and possibly make them laugh.

The idea of protecting the imaginary honor or sanctity of kids is an idea proposed by people that I presume probably don't talk to them about drugs or secks either, until little Jimmy comes home cracked out, with a prostitute on his arm cursing his mom and dad for not preparing him for the real world. lol

The work culture in which I am indoctrinated is so completely saturated with cursing that it's completely expected to pick up the phone and just immediately get an earful before you know who you're even speaking with. It's easy to forget who you're talking to, and frankly, nothing shocks me anymore. Having that been said, I try to curb myself around the little ones. It's society's job to ruin kids, not mine.

I only curse with my friends and I always check with the store manager first whether he minds or not. I typically don't swear in GW because the manager doesn't like the kids hearing it. I don't mind others doing it though as long as it doesn't get into invective. If a stranger starts cussing me out that's a whole different game than if my friend does after I score a direct hit with an Orbital Bonbonbardlement.

Sigh, double postage.

I love swearing!

But if theyres younger people around its only obvious that you tone it down to whatever necessary level.

Surely the same rule applies thoughout everything in life? You wouldnt walk into a shop with an elderly lady at the till and say 'Oh (*Worst word you know*) Ive forgot my wallet'

lol


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Meh. The idea that words can be "bad" or "good" is giving them power. To suggest that words have power by themselves is to indicate a misguided belief in "majik"; using power words and all that. The equivalent of feck happens to have one of the most robust histories in all of worddom (My word!!!) and is a noun, verb, etc. all at the same time. The most versatile word in history! It can be good, bad, implied, shouted, whispered, emoted, communicated without sound (middle finger!) etc.

I have children that are aged 11, 9 and 4 and they've heard it all from their sailor dad; me! I don't give two donkey ****s what any ****ing body says. They're top of their class, brilliant students that, like myself, appreciate it as a form of expression, and, occasionally a well wordsmithed art form. I generally want to punch people in the face that think a word by itself is for some reason magical, or taboo. It's the emotion conveyed by the word. I can say "I'll see you later." with gritted teeth at the end of a game and have somebody worried about what I'll do later, vice saying "Feck this game. I rolled like a **** in a ***house on ****." and possibly make them laugh.

The idea of protecting the imaginary honor or sanctity of kids is an idea proposed by people that I presume probably don't talk to them about drugs or secks either, until little Jimmy comes home cracked out, with a prostitute on his arm cursing his mom and dad for not preparing him for the real world. lol

Agreed!

yeah theres a bit of a line though hey, watch out for kids, but really, something pretty bad must happen to get that particularly upset that you need to drop words that your mother wouldnt like to hear.

Aslong as there arent any really young kids about i couldnt care less.
Saying that, most of the kids round this way swear every other word anyway.

Newt-Of-Death wrote:I love swearing!

But if theyres younger people around its only obvious that you tone it down to whatever necessary level.

Surely the same rule applies thoughout everything in life? You wouldnt walk into a shop with an elderly lady at the till and say 'Oh (*Worst word you know*) Ive forgot my wallet'

lol


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Lord Manimal

Meh. The idea that words can be "bad" or "good" is giving them power. To suggest that words have power by themselves is to indicate a misguided belief in "majik"; using power words and all that. The equivalent of feck happens to have one of the most robust histories in all of worddom (My word!!!) and is a noun, verb, etc. all at the same time. The most versatile word in history! It can be good, bad, implied, shouted, whispered, emoted, communicated without sound (middle finger!) etc.

I have children that are aged 11, 9 and 4 and they've heard it all from their sailor dad; me! I don't give two donkey ****s what any ****ing body says. They're top of their class, brilliant students that, like myself, appreciate it as a form of expression, and, occasionally a well wordsmithed art form. I generally want to punch people in the face that think a word by itself is for some reason magical, or taboo. It's the emotion conveyed by the word. I can say "I'll see you later." with gritted teeth at the end of a game and have somebody worried about what I'll do later, vice saying "Feck this game. I rolled like a **** in a ***house on ****." and possibly make them laugh.

The idea of protecting the imaginary honor or sanctity of kids is an idea proposed by people that I presume probably don't talk to them about drugs or secks either, until little Jimmy comes home cracked out, with a prostitute on his arm cursing his mom and dad for not preparing him for the real world. lol

Agreed!

Sorry but this is implying that

1) Just because you dictate it as neutral, neither good nor bad, you somehow rob a word of it's power. This in fact is redundant considering that whilst your own opinion stands as such, for the majority of society swearing is a label applied to words that are culturally considered rude or offensive. So being considered culturally rude or offensive by a majority of people, the use of what is considered by yourself to be a neutral word is still offensive and rude.

2) Exposure to said words and the belief illustrated in point 1) creates an immunity to the crass, offensive or rude implications of swearing. The example of prostitutes and drugs for example. Child sex/drug education is now at an all time intensity, and correspondingly, funnily enough, so is under-age sex and drug abuse. The point of the sex/drug education is supposed to be to teach kids Don't do drugs (and unfortunately) Have Safe Sex (when for 9-15year olds it should be "just stay away from it for a bit til you've finished puberty"). So Swearing education would infer that it would have the opposite effect perhaps? As a bloke who is about to become a father, and teaches 3.5 - 19 year olds, the idea of a 9-15 year old even needing to know about safe sex seems plaintively ridiculous. Ignorance is bliss, same should go for drugs, sex and swearing.

Two categories for kids (emphasis on kids):
Pure Ignorance: Sex
Limited Ignorance (Its bad, why, dont do it): Drugs and Swearing


While swearing has saturated most societies, the idea that it is no longer negative is a progressive leftist view, that, whilst it has gained momentum, still lags behind the silent majority of people that believe its still rude. So a child, that swears in front of a group of people at a supermarket, will most likely be considered rude. It matters not what that child thinks or what his/her parents believe.

Disclaimer: This does not take into account circle-of-friends or relatives. A local supermarket should provide a broad spectrum of people, whether considered to be intelligent, rightist leftist or other.

I put other
It does bother me when peaple don't put on thier "Filters" for when they are in public or around peaple who are offended.

Frequently and with emphasis. "feth" (not "feth," you all know exactly what word I'm talking about) happens to be my favourite word in the English language. It is the only word that can function as a noun, verb, adjective, and adverb. Whenever someone tries to tell me that using explatives is a sign of lacking intelligence, I feel the need to lecture them on how "feth" is the most intelligent word in the English language.

However, I am extremely offended by arbitrary censoring, such as 'fudge,' 'feth.' In fact, as far as speech goes, forms of censorship as such is more offensive to me than any slur you could think of.

I do it!

Its part of the culture!

Feth, the word of many uses, regardless of it's current use and its boundless nature of being a verb, noun etc, still has the base meaning of sex, usually with rough or violent connotations of some kind. So if some says mother fether, its meaning may have been distilled by that Masterpiece of cinema Snakes on a Plane, it still means that someone or something is violently or roughly describing intercourse with someone mother... hmm
not offensive?

Acceptable if done for laughs in a friendly game and in private where no one who might not want to hear it will.

As long as there's no kids, it's cool.

But, if it's gratuitous, then it would kind of spoil it for me. I mean, I cuss every day. Fbombs and such. But there's cussing and the. There's spewing every single bad word in the English language just to explain your dislike of a certain unit or rule. As long as cussing is "tasteful" (...) then I'm cool with it.

I don't mind cursing as such. If you do it a couple of times during a game when you fail the critcial rolls it's no worries but I will view you in a lesser light if you use a curse word every other sentence. Also if youngsters do it "just to be cool" I will tell them off.

Oh, and it's been scientifically proven that, when fighting against Space Wolves, the human vocabulary degenerates to 'feth,' 'space,' and 'wolves.'

It depends on how funny the moment was, a quick s*** is alright if your chaos lord went like a complete dummy to a laspistol and your oponents laughing their head off, after all warhammers a game where you can have a laugh

Lord Manimal wrote:

The idea of protecting the imaginary honor or sanctity of kids is an idea proposed by people that I presume probably don't talk to them about drugs or secks either, until little Jimmy comes home cracked out, with a prostitute on his arm cursing his mom and dad for not preparing him for the real world. lol

Wow. I woke my girlfriend up on the other side of the house laughing on that one. You sir are my new hero, and are getting sig'd

Back on Topic: I dont cure around kids (meaning 12 and under). It just ends badly. Little fethers repeat everything you say

I try to avoid cursing around kids, and around those I would like to respect me. Of course, if they make it clear they don't care if I swear I will. My friends already now I have a habit of swearing violently when I lose my Baneblade in DoW =P

Only when a 1 is rolled on an ork boy's cover save. God that's zogging annoying. And it happens ALL THE TIME.
(For those who don't know, you generally need a 6+)

I don't mind cursing as minor additions to common language and when spoken in a casual manner. Angry cursing bugs me, typically because angry people bug me.

Kirbinator wrote:I don't mind cursing as minor additions to common language and when spoken in a casual manner. Angry cursing bugs me, typically because angry people bug me.

agreed. my friend and I swear a lot during games, but it's just fun goofing around swearing, very rarely angry swearing. However, we have been trained to resist swearing at our local store because it's not just a gaming store, they sell a lot of other items that attract children and adults alike so the employees don't appreciate it. So I have to say only in private.

I watch who is around me, and if I swear it is clearly directed at myself or the dice...never at anyone else.

Around children, I'm roughly 50% less offensive; around the ladies, I keep things clean.

mattyrm wrote:
Seriously, who over the age of 15 doesnt swear all the fething time?

i swear like a fething trooper.

I usually try not to swear in front of kids, but I don't really think it is a big deal unless you're yelling AT them or insulting them.

ie: It's ok in my book to say "eff" or "effin el" in front of a kid, but don't call them an A-hole or something, even in jest.

I am afraid that I swear so much that I don't even notice if other people do it or not most of the time - that is unless they are swearing even more than me, which only a handful of people do.
I often explode with curses when I realize, after my turn is over, that I have done something terribly stupid, or forgotten to do something important, so when gaming, it is mostly directed at myself.
I don't care if kids are present, because they already know all the words, and if they don't; welcome to the real world!