Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)

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**Byte**

I'm trying to think of something I liked from last Sunday's episode. O well...

**Lint**

Byte wrote:
I'm trying to think of something I liked from last Sunday's episode. O well...

Pretty much all of the looks that Michonne was giving to everybody. I thought she captured the barely contained RAEG! look pretty well.

**Alfndrate**

I wasn't too big of a fan with this episode... I mean I understand they have to give split time now because we've got 2 groups, but why not split an episode instead of splitting bits of the season.

Also, what was up with the heads in glass cases? This isn't futurama

**FITZZ**

Alfndrate wrote:
I wasn't too big of a fan with this episode... I mean I understand they have to give split time now because we've got 2 groups, but why not split an episode instead of splitting bits of the season.

Also, what was up with the heads in glass cases? This isn't futurama

In the books the Governor keeps a mass of zombie heads in lighted glass tanks arranged against a wall and spends time sitting and watching them ( sort as if watching television)...perhaps it's his odd attempt at maintaining some air of normalicy, engaging in ( at least in a macabre fasion) an activity from "the past".

**Alfndrate**

That's so creepy though... I also think he's a total prick, but when all hell breaks loose, what else is going to keep some semblance of control?

Though I do see some hints of Rick, doing what's best for the group at the exclusion of all others, protecting what's "his", etc... I realize that he's got far more issues than Rick, and that he is supposed to the villain, but probably is also supposed to show Rick what can happen when you lose that little bit of humanity that prevents you from being a colossal donkey-cave.

**Hulksmash**

I liked how this episode turned out. I'm glad they went ahead and gave depth to the people that they are going to be going back and forth between. If they hadn't then every part of future episodes when they shift between groups people wouldn't care as much. Now there is more attachment to both stories.

That said I'm looking forward to seeing Rick and the gang next week.

**KamikazeCanuck**

I prefer that they dedicate an entire episode to one group rather than switch back and forth. Gives it a more focused/claustrophobic feel which is good for the horror genre.

**Deathshead420**

I like how a group of cutthroats got the jump on a bunch of soldiers. Some how i don't think that would have been so easy IRL. Also why were the group of grunts sitting in the middle of open ground? It has no defensible positions. It's soldiers like them that makes us lose the zombpocalypse.

Edited for spelling like a shambler

**whembly**

Deathshead420 wrote:
I like how a group of cutthroats got the jump on a bunch of soldiers. Some how i don't think that would have been so easy IRL. Also why were the group of grunts sitting in the middle of open ground? It has no defensible positions. It's soldiers like them that makes us loose the zombpocalypse.

Yeah...that bothered me too...

Any squad worth their salt would know that their equipment would be desirable for looters...

I'd have defensive positions at all time... against the living AND the dead.

**Alfndrate**

My biggest complaint was that the large open field contained grass that was barely high enough to hide the rag tag group of bandits laying down... Why did the soldiers not see them coming? They even had people up in a higher position. I understand they're national guard, but feth man... they should have more training than that...

Oh well...

**Hulksmash**

I would think that after this long in the post zombie world that seeing a car speeding up the road with a white cloth hanging out of it would probably distract anyone. Basically the cutthroats (who, if Merl is anything to go by are probably better sneakers and killers than national guardsmen) cover the last of the ground while the soldiers are distracted by the Govenor.

**KamikazeCanuck**

One thing I'm worried about is they haven't established Michonne level of badassery yet. She hasn't done anything, I don't know why the audience would even care about her right now. Just being the strong and silent type isn't enough.

**Hulksmash**

She has a giant sword and chops up zombies. She also dragged zombies around. She's pretty badass. I'm sure they'll make her plain crazy soon though. They didn't do much to establish her awesome in the comics till the govenor stuff in the comics either.

**KamikazeCanuck**

I seem to recall her being in more zombie fights at this point. Obviously she hasn't had much screen time so far so it's tough but that's why I think it would have been better to introduce her last year.

**DutchKillsRambo**

Personally I loved this episode. The Governor was awesome and Merl's bayonet attached to your stump makes for one hell of a zombie weapon in my mind.

**DeathReaper**

Deathshead420 wrote:
I like how a group of cutthroats got the jump on a bunch of soldiers.

Some how i don't think that would have been so easy IRL. Also why were the group of grunts sitting in the middle of open ground? It has no defensible positions. It's soldiers like them that makes us lose the zombpocalypse.

That underlined was very predictable. As a lot of things in many of the episodes are. It did not have any sense of verisimilitude.

Other than being predictable it is a descent series, but it could be written better.

**KamikazeCanuck**

It's easy to say you predicted everything after the episode has aired. Predict what'll happen in the next episode and we'll be impressed.

**DeathReaper**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
It's easy to say you predicted everything after the episode has aired. Predict what'll happen in the next episode and we'll be impressed.

It is not that it is predictable before it is aired.

It is too predictable when it is happening.

For instance, remember when the Zombie was stuck in the well on the farm, and glen had to go put a noose around it to drag it up. They tied Glen into the rope harness and wrapped the rope around the well pump once, as soon as they did that I saw the complication they were going to have (The pump was going to give way).

As soon as Sophia was "Lost" I knew the writers threw in the complication of her being bitten and turned.

As soon as something happens I can usually predict the complication that will happen. The writing in The Walking Dead follows the classic episodic formula.

Not saying it is bad, just very formulaic.

**FITZZ**

The element of predictability is somewhat diferent when you've read the series of books, not to say that DeathReaper doesn't have a point, they're certinly are situations and set ups that occur in the TV series that one can see coming from a mile away.
For example, when Hershell steps over the zombie in the Prison, I think everyone watching "knew" what was going to happen...but I was frankly surprised that the writers had opted to go that route with his character as it varies so drasticaly from his character in the books.( As I said before it seems he'll be playing dual roles taking Dales part as well).
Also the whole role Michone is playing as Andrea's baby sitter...new to me, and I'm interested in seeing exactly how the show's writers will handle the whole Woodbury/Prison situation.

**KamikazeCanuck**

Ya, Hershel getting bit and Sophia getting killed may seem a bit predictable to people watching the show but is actually surprising to the comic fans. It's like they are going out of their way to be unpredictable to the comic fans but the comic was unpredictable so it makes the show seem more predictable...

**DeathReaper**

FITZZ wrote:
The element of predictability is somewhat diferent when you've read the series of books, not to say that DeathReaper doesn't have a point, they're certinly are situations and set ups that occur in the TV series that one can see coming from a mile away.
For example, when Hershell steps over the zombie in the Prison, I think everyone watching "knew" what was going to happen...

Yea they totally gave it away before Herschel was bit.

He was walking down the hallway, and the wide shot on him showed a few dead people.

Then they cut to one of the dead people, and I said to myself, that is a zombie and Herschel is getting bit.

Then a few seconds later they show a wide shot of Herschel and he steps over the dead guy and it bites him...

And I think most people knew that the hispanic prisoner was going to die, I called that the instant they met.

It is better writing to have the complications appear more natural.

Sometimes the verisimilitude is just off.

But not a bad show, just a bit predictable (I have never read the comic books so it is entirely new to me).

**Deathshead420**

Spoiler:

I don't say that lightly.

**KamikazeCanuck**

I didn't see any of that coming. Thought for sure Meryl was going to kill T-Dawg.

**FITZZ**

I absolutely enjoyed last nights episode, honestly was the first time I've felt any sort of tension whille watching...well...anything, in a very long time.

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**Lint**

Perhaps I'm overly cynical, but I found it ironic that they introduced a new black member of the group (the prisoner) and killed off the only other black dude on the show.

**Hulksmash**

Which black woman did they kill off before they introduced Michon? And one of the other main guards (who has had about as much screen time this season as T-dog did at the beginning of season 2 last year) is black. I'm going with overly cynical.

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**KamikazeCanuck**

Lint wrote:
Perhaps I'm overly cynical, but I found it ironic that they introduced a new black member of the group (the prisoner) and killed off the only other black dude on the show.

I was kind of thinking the same thing. Seems like there's a set number of cast members they can have or something. Just as two new people join the group two others die. I also noticed they new black guy seem to result in the automatic death of old black guy.

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Hulksmash wrote:
Which black woman did they kill off before they introduced Michon? And one of the other main guards (who has had about as much screen time this season as T-dog did at the beginning of season 2 last year) is black. I'm going with overly cynical.

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I think it's a great departure from the comics. I get the feeling the prisoner black guy is going to fill in the football player from the comics and I didn't realize, even with names, that the squirelly prisoner was Axel the biker convict from the comics. As for the episode itself Carl is a tiny BOSS!. That kid is hardcore and is slowly morphing into one of my favorite characters. Merl and the Gov.'s staredown was pretty great. Personally I think Merl has developed a lot in his time away from the group. I think that there will be a break between Merl and the Gov and the crux is going to be based around Michone and Andrea with a bit of his brother thrown in.

I do wonder if we'll see the grief rampage we got out of the football guy last seaon after his daughter died from Rick this season. I also think that what happened was needed for Rick's development but I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say that this week they went 3/3 on my least favorite characters (if Carol is dead too) which I like. Overall, that was a pretty awesome and intense episode.

I think "football" player you're talking about is Tyreese who was awesome in the book although I don't remember him playing football. I always thought it was weird he wasn't in the show but it seems Daryl basically took his spot.

**Squidmanlolz**

I think that was the best episode of the series.
I have no words to describe...

**Byte**

Last nights episode = WOW!

**whembly**

Just saw it!

I mean... daaaaaaaaaaaaaanm.

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