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If he's that crazy how is he in power?

He got advice from Hitler.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Or he's just nuts and felt betrayed and there's nothig subtle about it.

Well ya, he just got stabbed in the eye by a women that's supposed to be dead. One thing that has me worried is that I thought that they may have made the Govenor too sympathetic for those how haven't read the books. In the comic he's so over the top evil he might as well be a daemon prince. You don't seem to think so, so I guess they are establishing his villiany properly...

The Talking Dead kinda said that this would be the Governor's turning point and that they wanted to show a transition between evil and ohmygod, this guy is freaking psycho. I'm thinking that heads will begin to roll in February... Then the Governor puts them in tanks...

 Frazzled wrote:
If he's that crazy how is he in power?

A little bit of what's he's doing in the show: not letting people know what evilness he's up to and a little bit of ruling with an iron fist. One thing is the comics seem more bleak and post-apocalyptic. Too many strange naive people in the show. Like why is ther a hermit living in a shack that threatens to call the police? Why does Tyreese group seem so green? Why does it seem like many Woodbury residents haven't even seen a zombie turn? How can people like that be around a year after the world has been destroyed?
It's like that comment you made before, it's a world full of people with the 1,000 mile stare so even if your town has a crazy leader it's still better than the road. Nothing is worse than the road. In fact the movie "The Road" is almost closer to the book than the actual TWD show.

I get the feeling Tyrese's group had to make a break from wherever they were staying. Think of Herchel's family if they hadn't met Rick and been pushed off the farm in spring.

As for the residents I think it's more a mental defense mechanism. The ones not on the wall are the ones who just can't totally handle the world as it is. And the fights showing the zombies as entertainment instead of danger only makes it easier.

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Or he's just nuts and felt betrayed and there's nothig subtle about it.

Well ya, he just got stabbed in the eye by a women that's supposed to be dead. One thing that has me worried is that I thought that they may have made the Govenor too sympathetic for those how haven't read the books. In the comic he's so over the top evil he might as well be a daemon prince. You don't seem to think so, so I guess they are establishing his villiany properly...

The Talking Dead kinda said that this would be the Governor's turning point and that they wanted to show a transition between evil and ohmygod, this guy is freaking psycho. I'm thinking that heads will begin to roll in February... Then the Governor puts them in tanks...

Just hype I think. It's a non-HBO TV show, the network won't allow him to be as evil as he is in the show. AMC is quite stereotypically American really. I've seen some gross stuff on this show. They'll show the most horrific, gruesome throats being ripped out with teeth and people being eviscerated with fingernails but no swearing or boobies!


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 Hulksmash wrote:
I get the feeling Tyrese's group had to make a break from wherever they were staying. Think of Herchel's family if they hadn't met Rick and been pushed off the farm in spring.

As for the residents I think it's more a mental defense mechanism. The ones not on the wall are the ones who just can't totally handle the world as it is. And the fights showing the zombies as entertainment instead of danger only makes it easier.

Well looks like they're going to make a move for the guns next episode so we'll see how green they really are. Right now you just kinda get the vibe Carl's gonna blow one of them away.

Anyone else kinda laugh when Carl offered to shoot that women in the head and Tyreese was like "no I'll handle this" as if he's going to be more civilized and then pulls out a hammer?

Yeah, I get the feeling Carl will put one between that dad's eyes come the next episode. This is a kid who hit a zombie in the head that a woman was struggling with from a decent distance in bad light. One who looked ready to put down Otto when he was getting pervy with his friend. And one who has put a bullet in his own mom to keep her from coming back.

I do think Tyrese realizes how deadly Carl is. But I have serious doubts about the the dad and son.

And yes. I laughed.

In the book woodbury is not white picket fence like this place is. It's pretty much Mos Eisley surrounded by Zombies, which is why the Gov was so cut throat, that is the kind of man that is going to lead such a group. In the TV show the gov is providing people with the ideal community, they are not going to look too deeply behind the curtain, we saw this with Andrea. He is clearly about turn pretty evil.

He is a much more realistic version in the show, at least for the situation.

If you pay attention to the trailers there are a few things that you pick up on. You see the gov standing with a couple of dead bodies and armed henchmen in the gladiator pit with smoke all around him. I'm going to guess this is the aftermath of the escape of Meryle and Darryl. I'm going to guess that Rick and possibly Michonnne come back for the rescue.

You see a scene where Glenn yells something to the effect of "What the hell is he doing here?" I believe that is when he finds out that Meryle is coming back with them

Mos Eisley eh? I'll go with Zombie Thunderdome!

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Mos Eisley eh? I'll go with Zombie Thunderdome!

That works. I was just going by the quote "Never was there a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"

Well no more TWD I guess for like 3 fething months. Stupid AMC.

Daryl and Merle reunion=lame.
What. The. Fudge.

Pretty much what I expected. I am kind of surprised with how the darryl thing ended up. I figured they would just lock Merle up. Rick is really losing it, in a much more destructive to the group way than I expected. I was a little worried for the group, until they showed more about woodbury. I didn't realize most of the people there were so sheltered as to be stupid. It's like they never experienced what its like on the outside. Most of Woodburys inhabitants are as soft a marshmallows.

I think the Daryl-Meryl think actually went down the way it probably should have.

I find it a bit preposterous the Woodburians don't know what to do with someone who's been bitten by a zombie. Seriously, what the hell is Andrea doing still hanging out in that place after everything that's happened?

As for the Merle/Daryl reunion I think that Carol summed it up nicely. As badass as Daryl is, he's still the little brother to a dominating douche-lord, and guys like that have a way of getting into your head. Obviously the show isn't done with Daryl's character so it should be good to see what happens
next.

Rick. I don't even know where to start. Looks like he's going bonkers. I'm over it already, and I hope they don't drag it out.

Andrea is my least favorite character. It's like they want to portray her as this strong person with the ability to be a leader, but she comes off as a complete mullet.

 Lint wrote:
As for the Merle/Daryl reunion I think that Carol summed it up nicely. As badass as Daryl is, he's still the little brother to a dominating douche-lord, and guys like that have a way of getting into your head. Obviously the show isn't done with Daryl's character so it should be good to see what happens
next.

Rick. I don't even know where to start. Looks like he's going bonkers. I'm over it already, and I hope they don't drag it out.

Andrea is my least favorite character. It's like they want to portray her as this strong person with the ability to be a leader, but she comes off as a complete mullet.

I complettely agree with not dragging the "Rick is going batgak" bit out, at least in the direction the show seems to want to take it, I don't mind Rick going a bit nuts ( hell even a lot nuts), but the Ghost Lori bit made me cringe.

Also agree with the way things played out between Daryl and Merle + group, this will be an interesting storyline to watch unfold IMO, my money is on Daryl and Merle coming to blows.

As for Andrea, I've really been attempting to see her in terms of the "big picture", Scared lawer who's family dies, sister gets bit so she has to shoot her, almost offs herself, has a breakdown, damn near gets munched more times than I can remember, get's blamed for a near suicide,then gets left by her group to run for her life...clearly she's got issues.

Ya, not liking ghost Lori or ghost anything for that matter. TV Show is now like Bizzaro comic. Govenor is sane and Rick is insane. Looks like Govenor will be slowly going more crazy though. It will culminate is a battle between crazy and crazier to determine who is craziest!

So, the world's been destroyed and you can have any car in the world you come across......so you're all going for a metallic, misty green Hyundai right?

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


So, the world's been destroyed and you can have any car in the world you come across......so you're all going for a metallic, misty green Hyundai right?

Obvious product placements...

White Collar is just as bad...

 whembly wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:


So, the world's been destroyed and you can have any car in the world you come across......so you're all going for a metallic, misty green Hyundai right?

Obvious product placements...

White Collar is just as bad...

Well, what would be the best vehicle to have, all things considered? Sports cars are no good. Yeah, the giant hummer sounds nice, but where are you gonna get the gas for it?

So what is good criteria? Off road capable, good MPG, reliable, easy to find spare parts, simple to work on, storage space for your people and gear.

Ford ranger might be the best, good gas mileage and you should be able to find parts pretty easy. It's got decent off road capabilities, and if you could find the hybrid even better gas mileage. Maybe a jeep, but they can be maintenance monsters.

WV Golf Diesel with rally tires would be ideal just for MPG, but then diesel might be hard to find and replacement parts would be kind of hard to find.

I think the same thing when I see Daryll on the Hog, bikes are good, but I'd probably ditch it the second I found an enduro, or some other bike that is more off road capable.

But yes, it is product placement.

Hell, this may need its own thread.

Ya, you'd need reliability and good milage. It may not be sexy but a Prius? On the other hand that may not have enough horse power to carry around all your survivors and apocalypse survival gear.

Did anyone else notice the Governor had Rick's sheriffs gun bag?

 Byte wrote:
Did anyone else notice the Governor had Rick's sheriffs gun bag?

Wait...what?, No I didn't notice that, when did that scene take place.
I usaully catch those sorts of things...

 FITZZ wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Did anyone else notice the Governor had Rick's sheriffs gun bag?

Wait...what?, No I didn't notice that, when did that scene take place.
I usaully catch those sorts of things...

He was talking to Blondie in his room/house and gearing up with wargear. He hoisted the bag up on the table. I'll check my DVR and get the minute mark.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, you'd need reliability and good milage. It may not be sexy but a Prius? On the other hand that may not have enough horse power to carry around all your survivors and apocalypse survival gear.

Daryl has the way of it. Bikes. Cruisers.
In the grim darkness of Zombie Apocalypse (except Texas of course, where it will be the Zombie Games YEEHHHAAAA!) bike gangs will be the sole survivors...

"The hardest thing about the zombie apocalypse is pretending I'm not excited."

 Frazzled wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, you'd need reliability and good milage. It may not be sexy but a Prius? On the other hand that may not have enough horse power to carry around all your survivors and apocalypse survival gear.

Daryl has the way of it. Bikes. Cruisers.
In the grim darkness of Zombie Apocalypse (except Texas of course, where it will be the Zombie Games YEEHHHAAAA!) bike gangs will be the sole survivors...

"The hardest thing about the zombie apocalypse is pretending I'm not excited."

Have to agree here, motorcycles are the way to go IMO, only drawback would be the amont of noise most street bikes vtend to make.

And the fact your completely exposed. Car gives you protection. Motorcycle just establishes your cool level.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
And the fact your completely exposed. Car gives you protection. Motorcycle just establishes your cool level.

You don't need protection when you're quick and mobile, you can just ride right by the zombies. If you are hiding inside a car, you're pretty screwed already.

On a motorcycle just taking a wrong turn could get you killed by one zombie. With a car you just drive over them and keep going.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
On a motorcycle just taking a wrong turn could get you killed by one zombie. With a car you just drive over them and keep going.

I hear you. I'll take maneuverability over armor anyday. It reminds me of the soccer moms who drive giant SUVs because they feel safe in an accident, because they have so many! I choose to avoid accidents, I've been able to avoid so many accidents in my little two seater just because its nimble and quick.

It really depends on what you are doing I suppose, long distance travel on any kind of bike is not ideal. But you have a lot more escape routs with an enduro than you do with a car.

An electric car does have some advantages, they are extremely quiet, but their range and finding electricity might be pretty big drawbacks. That and even a slow moving zombie can catch a Prius

The thing about a bike is, if you need to catch a nap, and you do it on your bike, you wake up with a zombie bite.

No problems like that in a car.