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To be fair, that's almost 50 issues ago.

How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

Norman Reedus said in an interview that it is not Glenn.

I could have swore though that they namedropped Dwight in the episode, like halfway through.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

I think Glenn's alive. I've seen

I dont even think these are the saviours, they just dont seem like it,

I have a feeling mr big bad leader of saviors wont show till the season ender and this will be a wolves + whoever this new group ends up being


good episode though... nice to have one with daryll in it as more then a token character, his arc is really playing out nicely, I just hope he doesnt become such a good guy that he needs to die

I think this episode was a...

 Kanluwen wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

Norman Reedus said in an interview that it is not Glenn.

I could have swore though that they namedropped Dwight in the episode, like halfway through.

And lies and misdirection happen. Hell the whole talking dead about Stephen/Glenn not being able to make it, blah blah. Until it is fully confirmed, it can't be believed. You know that.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

Norman Reedus said in an interview that it is not Glenn.

I could have swore though that they namedropped Dwight in the episode, like halfway through.

And lies and misdirection happen. Hell the whole talking dead about Stephen/Glenn not being able to make it, blah blah. Until it is fully confirmed, it can't be believed. You know that.

What more confirmation do you really want/need?

I hate to say it that way but really. There's only so much that actors can/will say. The interview was up on Yahoo, and Reedus flat-out says "I can't say more than it is not Glenn."

I think it's carl, he went out to find enid and now he's in trouble again. It would be funny if it was the caged wolf guy though, he got a hold of morgans radio and is trying to get help. the classic, the call is coming from in your house moment

Well that was another long drawn out episode................We watched it and felt it was a bit dull.

Yeah I get the comics references............and we get to meet more "stupid" people who desperatly try to find ways to get themselves bit. Def the guy looking for them said he only wants willing ass which fits but lot of effort for no return and lost resources/ arm

Another cute blonde girl gets killed in majorily stupid way - ohh look dead people - surely they can't be zombies like the ones that we kept walking past and are still moving.........oh yeah so they are..........oh no what shall we do.

ah well see what happens next week - hope tis better.

Least A got some rockets and cigars

I'm just saying, for a show that is famous for misdirection, I won't actually believe it's impossible that it's Glenn until it's announced who it definitely was.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Well that was another long drawn out episode................We watched it and felt it was a bit dull.

Yeah I get the comics references............and we get to meet more "stupid" people who desperatly try to find ways to get themselves bit. Def the guy looking for them said he only wants willing ass which fits but lot of effort for no return and lost resources/ arm

Another cute blonde girl gets killed in majorily stupid way - ohh look dead people - surely they can't be zombies like the ones that we kept walking past and are still moving.........oh yeah so they are..........oh no what shall we do.

ah well see what happens next week - hope tis better.

Least A got some rockets and cigars

Yep, getting kinda lame really. Not a fan of the comic, but have watched since the season 1 premier. Reminds me of the "Lost" series death throws. Unresolved story arches, too many rabbit holes, when shows writes for longevity, they lose focus, direction, and fans.

I'm not seeing it like that at all.

And I'm really quite glad when the TV show deviates from the comic.

Overall, season 6 of TWD has been quite good!

I suppose it is nice and relaxing for painting and such.

TWD -- comic and TV -- is about the characters. The zombie apocalypse is the setting and not the point of the show. The story will always spend time exploring these characters and their relationships.

There are plenty of video games out there that can deliver non-stop zombie action if that's what some people are looking for.

 gorgon wrote:
TWD -- comic and TV -- is about the characters. The zombie apocalypse is the setting and not the point of the show. The story will always spend time exploring these characters and their relationships.

There are plenty of video games out there that can deliver non-stop zombie action if that's what some people are looking for.

In point of fact =- the zombie stuff this season has been the worst bits for me - at this point the comic characters are pretty cavalier about them as they are seldom the actual main threat - but in the tv show we seem to have people constantly stumbling drunkenly into zombies left right and centre just to show they are still a threat............ I get you need to have dangerous elements but we have the humans for that for the most part - that's kinda the point of much of the story in the comics and the show?

I like the human stuff (even if they keep killing people I like) and relationships but dislike the overly drawn out plot elements - like in last night. The two of us watching just felt it was getting dull, the whole plot with the three on the run seemed very contrived and drawn out and then they double cross Daryl again at the end after the blonde manages to dive headfirst into zombies to get herself killed - it seemed a WTF moment and just to stop the story of who they / the other group were progressing at any kind of pace.

In contrast I quite liked the bit with Abraham and Sasha showing how broken they were but again it seemed a bit forced.

Most of the people this season getting bit have been people with relatively limited exposure to the outside world. The only ones who have been "bit" that dont' fit that profile are really Morgan's sensai and the dude that got bit in the arm last episode that Daryl tricked. Both with, in my opinion, reasonable explanations.

The people used to being out there HAVE been rather cavalier about zombies. I mean the only reason the sewer zombies were an issue was a mild concussion (Aaron) and being so soggy she couldn't get a hold (Maggie). Watch the actual "survivors". The actors are excellent at showing constant awareness combined with a satisfactory sense of confidence and control.

I like this episode. Outside of the girl being stupid (they say she's been in the camp from the beginning) it was a pretty solid episode. And Daryl not just being a back-up man was needed to remind the audience that outside of Rick there aren't many better at surviving.

 gorgon wrote:
TWD -- comic and TV -- is about the characters. The zombie apocalypse is the setting and not the point of the show. The story will always spend time exploring these characters and their relationships.

There are plenty of video games out there that can deliver non-stop zombie action if that's what some people are looking for.

Maybe it can be moved to daytime with the rest of the soup operas...

Your twisting my point. Did you even read my post? Unresolved story lines... plots slow to develop/resolve...

Video games? Really, you choose to talk down? Classy.

The show is solid, but its obvious the writers are slowing it down. I'm not referring to a gore fest as previous replies assumed. Just get on with the story telling (advance the plot).

I'm don't feel like getting trolled so this is my last response on the matter.

The writers did slow it down for a few episodes for some character work...after a few breakneck episodes that ignored that in favor of action.

I really don't know what to tell you. It's not an all-action, all-the-time kind of show, and it's never been afraid to take its time. It's been like that for 6 seasons and what, 4 showrunners? The show is hardly above criticism, but when people criticize it for not being something that it's never been, I'm sorry -- that just doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

I get that they're stringing the fans along with the "is Glenn alive or dead" thread. But that's what TV does, and it's really not that important to the overall story. Every character other than Rick and Carl are disposable.

 gorgon wrote:
The writers did slow it down for a few episodes for some character work...after a few breakneck episodes that ignored that in favor of action.

I really don't know what to tell you. It's not an all-action, all-the-time kind of show, and it's never been afraid to take its time. It's been like that for 6 seasons and what, 4 showrunners? The show is hardly above criticism, but when people criticize it for not being something that it's never been, I'm sorry -- that just doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

I get that they're stringing the fans along with the "is Glenn alive or dead" thread. But that's what TV does, and it's really not that important to the overall story. Every character other than Rick and Carl are disposable.

Not sure - it does vary hugely in pace - the first series was good - the second (IMO) was horrible and for me (and friends) its been hit and miss since then - quite a few episodes have been just dull and felt like filler - spinning it out rather than speeding the plot along.

Honestly not that bothered about Glenn - I like him but if he is dead - that is fine - he made (or the writers) made a series of absolutely stupid decisions so dying kinda fits although magely hard on Maggie -also you would have thought he might have been a little careful given her recent state!!

Even the first couple of episodes this season had pacing issues for me - especially the dazed stumble through the woods and fall into the zombies mouths bits - the flash back and forward stuff was just annoying - not in concept another show I am watching had it and worked really well, just execution. The Morgan episode was just boring about people I had / have no interest in - could have been done is a quarter of the time and had some meaning.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
The writers did slow it down for a few episodes for some character work...after a few breakneck episodes that ignored that in favor of action.

I really don't know what to tell you. It's not an all-action, all-the-time kind of show, and it's never been afraid to take its time. It's been like that for 6 seasons and what, 4 showrunners? The show is hardly above criticism, but when people criticize it for not being something that it's never been, I'm sorry -- that just doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

I get that they're stringing the fans along with the "is Glenn alive or dead" thread. But that's what TV does, and it's really not that important to the overall story. Every character other than Rick and Carl are disposable.

Not sure - it does vary hugely in pace - the first series was good - the second (IMO) was horrible and for me (and friends) its been hit and miss since then - quite a few episodes have been just dull and felt like filler - spinning it out rather than speeding the plot along.

Honestly not that bothered about Glenn - I like him but if he is dead - that is fine - he made (or the writers) made a series of absolutely stupid decisions so dying kinda fits although magely hard on Maggie -also you would have thought he might have been a little careful given her recent state!!

Even the first couple of episodes this season had pacing issues for me - especially the dazed stumble through the woods and fall into the zombies mouths bits - the flash back and forward stuff was just annoying - not in concept another show I am watching had it and worked really well, just execution. The Morgan episode was just boring about people I had / have no interest in - could have been done is a quarter of the time and had some meaning.

Well I strongly recommend you stop watching the show. If you're not liking this season so far it's fair to say you'll always be unhappy with the show. No need to put yourself through that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How about for those of us who haven't read the comics, but don't mind spoiling them for ourselves? I appreciate the heads up on Mr. F.

Still kind of upsetting that we still don't know Glenn's fate. I hope it was him yelling for help on the walkie, as suggested last page.

Norman Reedus said in an interview that it is not Glenn.

I could have swore though that they namedropped Dwight in the episode, like halfway through.

Norman Reedus probably said that because he can't say who it is. Speculation is that its Glenn. Five years of listening to people talk on police style radios leaves me to believe it was Glenn aswell.

Well, Glenn's not dead. Under the trash can for the win. And he's still trying to save people. That building still being up (and towering over the town on the outside) just shows how inept the Alexandrians are in the new world.

So midseason finale seems like it's going to be surviving and then possibly (if they finish it) removing the herd from Alexandria. Lots of dead Alexandrians in our future unless they manage to fort up decently.

Also I can't be the only one who was laughing as Carl was "helping" teach that kid to use a handgun. Everything he said made that kid give him a look of death.

He's alive!!

I'm also pretty sure I hear Glenn croak out a "help" while trapped under the dumpster. I may be hunting Kan down for a "my bad" response-will check again after work. Don't go running away now, Kan! I still think that was him on the walkie, regardless of what Reedus said.

Timing actually would be about right for the croaking help from glenn. It'll also make it more likely that we'll see Darryl, Abraham, Glenn, and Sasha use the gas truck to create a bonfire to pull the zombies out of Alexandria and burn themselves up.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
He's alive!!

I'm also pretty sure I hear Glenn croak out a "help" while trapped under the dumpster. I may be hunting Kan down for a "my bad" response-will check again after work. Don't go running away now, Kan! I still think that was him on the walkie, regardless of what Reedus said.

I don't think it was glen, it's more like a timing point like the horn. and next episode we'll see who's asking for help. From beginning to end as a title seems to me like they're going to wrap up all these parallel stories for the mid season.

I will say that Walking Dead generally doesn't do ridiculous cliffhanger crap for mid or full season finales. Its something I actually appreciate. The closest to a "cliffhanger" was being trapped in Terminus. But that still brought the entire group together and wrapped up the season.

So I'm hoping they do the same basic thing and wrap up these 3-4 days in the life of Alexandrians and all the people involved before they go on break.

Comic Questions about next episode

 pretre wrote:
Comic Questions about next episode

Spoiler:

Isn't the wall falling what triggers Rick's new woman and her son dying, Carl getting his eye shot, and the realization that they can hold against a horde of zombies if they just fight with hand to hand weapons together and don't break?

Don't remember about the woman and her son, but yes to the rest.

Yes to the woman and son.