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Oh wow. Yeah, that might throw a wrench in the works.

Again, I'd be fine with just being able to have the map as a singleplayer thing. I actually know how I want it to end up, now it's just a matter of getting there.

yeah it is pretty insane what is coming so... Yeah with that confirmation its basically GG if we want to go to 1.17


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Anvildude wrote:
Oh wow. Yeah, that might throw a wrench in the works.

Again, I'd be fine with just being able to have the map as a singleplayer thing. I actually know how I want it to end up, now it's just a matter of getting there.

I don't know if you can unless you wnat to be stuck in 1.16.

But its been years since we've had an update like this... So it makes sense.

The thing I am hoping for... is more block types for underground making emeralds and diamonds a bit more common compared to where they are now. But eh who knows! This is going to be interesting.

It's still fairly early, and this is the first snapshot introducing the new cave systems and build limits. I would think the ores will be redistributed to different levels in future updates.

I'm guessing the Nether and End don't need to be resized like this?

 Breotan wrote:
I'm guessing the Nether and End don't need to be resized like this?

Our End is treacherous currently... and not for good reasons. Our End has 'corrupted zones' Where it will crash the server if you enter it. We had that happen last time I was exploring the end.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I'm guessing the Nether and End don't need to be resized like this?

Our End is treacherous currently... and not for good reasons. Our End has 'corrupted zones' Where it will crash the server if you enter it. We had that happen last time I was exploring the end.

I was actually getting ready to go farm Shulkers. :(

At this point, probably more viable to just have a pack-llama train following you around.

Also, I'd be fine keeping that one in 1.16. I already have multiple versions installed in my launcher for mod stuff, so to be able to keep the Mesa? Yeah, I'd freeze the version. Or figure out how to transfer it over to a new world on my own.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Our End has 'corrupted zones' Where it will crash the server if you enter it. We had that happen last time I was exploring the end.

Which direction were you exploring?

 Breotan wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
Our End has 'corrupted zones' Where it will crash the server if you enter it. We had that happen last time I was exploring the end.

Which direction were you exploring?

You can check the thread should be in there

I didn't see any mention of coordinates in the posts about the End being corrupted. I assume you were exploring on the long strip shown on the map?

 Breotan wrote:
I didn't see any mention of coordinates in the posts about the End being corrupted. I assume you were exploring on the long strip shown on the map?

I will need to check.

Okay. I'm going South for now. I found a large End City that had been explored. The attached ship had been plundered but I discovered three Shulkers that were hanging off walls or underneath floating buildings. I managed to kill them easily enough although it was a bit of a nuisance to run all the way back down to locate the drops on the ground.

Running around with a pumpkin on does get old after awhile, though. Arctic temperatures inside my house doesn't help either.

You can try my approach for exploring the End: fly through it on a piston flying machine*.
Build it up high enough to clear any chorus fruit trees, shove all your stuff into an ender chest in case anything goes wrong (except for a cheap silk touch pickaxe for breaking the ender chest), and take off. It's slow, but you don't have to build any bridges. did travel about 10,000 blocks across the End in a couple hours one day. That's how I got all my shulker boxes and a couple Elytra (sadly, falls into lava have eaten the Elytra). You can just surf the net on your phone or a second monitor and glance at the screen every ten seconds or so to see what new stuff has appeared.


*How to build the machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHN-zDvKNbU

Does anyone have a plan for a small Creeper farm?

All the one I can see on the net are "super mega 10 000+ hour gunpowder farms!!!"

I don't need anywhere near that number.

Any basic mob farm should do it. If you're looking specifically for creepers, I think there's ways to manipulate Mob AI to separate them out. But if you're gonna be farming one, might as well farm the others.

I've got a fairly standard mob farm at my base, it's in the ocean near my my Nether portal (granite and diorite structure). Help yourself, if you like. Bubble elevators provide access to the bottom.
Basically, you build a series of platforms that use a redstone clock to dispense water that pushes the mobs off the edges at regular intervals. They go down to the bottom where water pushes them onto some magma blocks, they die, and the drops are collected by hopper minecarts under the magma blocks. You can eliminate skeletons and spiders from spawning by altering the height of the platforms, if needed.

Oh neat, thanks.

If you still want your own creeper farm, you can build one that follows the same design as the youtube tutorials, just smaller.

If they're building 20 platforms in the void at Y=0, build 4 at whatever Y level you want.
I built a farm like that in my own world and it provides about enough drops to feed two players with all the Rocket-IIIs we need when it's running constantly.

The bit that makes a creeper farm a creeper farm is the trapdoors on the ceiling as this means the ceiling is too low to allow anything but a creeper to spawn. Otherwise it follows the same design as a conventional farm.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
If you still want your own creeper farm, you can build one that follows the same design as the youtube tutorials, just smaller.

If they're building 20 platforms in the void at Y=0, build 4 at whatever Y level you want.
I built a farm like that in my own world and it provides about enough drops to feed two players with all the Rocket-IIIs we need when it's running constantly.

The bit that makes a creeper farm a creeper farm is the trapdoors on the ceiling as this means the ceiling is too low to allow anything but a creeper to spawn. Otherwise it follows the same design as a conventional farm.

Oh even neater! Thanks.

Ooohh! I didn't know about that! Neat.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
*How to build the machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHN-zDvKNbU

Today I learned that you can't stop per the video it if you substitute honey blocks in place of the slime blocks. You need to use slime blocks for this one to work properly.

New content for update....

Oh my.

Yeah, I saw that video. Kind of neat that there will be a new dark block at the bottom of the world.
I suspected they would adjust the ore distribution to match up with the new world heights, but I wasn't expecting changes to how one ore would be more common at at specific levels.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Yeah, I saw that video. Kind of neat that there will be a new dark block at the bottom of the world.
I suspected they would adjust the ore distribution to match up with the new world heights, but I wasn't expecting changes to how one ore would be more common at at specific levels.

I guess they liked how it worked for Ancient Debris and decided to run with it.

I am here hoping that copper becomes so common it is literally... useless because of how common it is.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Kind of neat that there will be a new dark block at the bottom of the world.

New dark block you say??

Yes, all signs are pointing to a world reset being a sensible idea for this substantial world generation update. (Just for the dark blocks, not the world height, depth or anything like that ).

However, it's still too soon to predict how that will look (or how much time I will have to dedicate to any attempt to preserve anything from the current world).

MCEdit has not been updated for many Minecraft versions now.
The in-game structure blocks that can be obtained via commands and used to save structures only have a max size of 48x48x48. While a single build could be saved using multiple structure exports, I don't like the idea of trying to play 3D jigsaw with people's builds.
WorldEdit is an option but as it is a mod for Minecraft that means it wouldn't be available until the mod has updated for the new version.

That said it could be that we all start from scratch for the new update and then I later import builds from the previous world when suitable tools are available to do so.

So I'm still just sitting on a wait and see approach but it's clearly extremely likely that we would have a world reset for the coming update.

 darkinnit wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Kind of neat that there will be a new dark block at the bottom of the world.

New dark block you say??

Oh yeah thats the most important though! New Dark Grey Blocks!

 darkinnit wrote:

Yes, all signs are pointing to a world reset being a sensible idea for this substantial world generation update. (Just for the dark blocks, not the world height, depth or anything like that ).

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Yeah I am interested what would even happen if you load a world with higher Y and -Y. My question would be... would it even load?

But As you said I think we will wait to see what even happens. For all we know they completely change their minds about the whole update or how it goes about generating new chunks

I'm just having fun theorizing about stuff.

Anvildude wrote:
I'm just having fun theorizing about stuff.

Nothing wrong with that!

I would love to see what more content they come out with.

 darkinnit wrote:
That said it could be that we all start from scratch for the new update and then I later import builds from the previous world when suitable tools are available to do so.

So I'm still just sitting on a wait and see approach but it's clearly extremely likely that we would have a world reset for the coming update.

This seems like the most sensible approach. Hopefully we'll at least be able to do a character transfer (with our inventory) at the very least. As you said, we still have time before any decisions need to be made.