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Comrade 87 - did you even POST you were building near my fort? Thats well within sight range, and I was planning to use that area.

BTW, Anvil, I am guessing the bottom of the 11x11 tunnel should actually be... y=11, right? Or even y=10? Because we actively want lava lakes at the bottom of the tunnel?

And, shape of the tunnel is the 11x11 one from this generator?

https://donatstudios.com/PixelCircleGenerator

That looks good. The thin one, of course- I'm thinking the pixels themselves should be the outer 'air' blocks, rather than the cave walls?

Also, I've been planning it so that the bottom of the tunnel- the bottom layer- is the lava layer. I've been mining a block above that, so as to be able to build bridges over the lava without disturbing it, and still have a flat path.

Yes, the pixels are the outer 'air' blocks.

So, if you're standing on the bottom of the tunnel -- where it's not in lava -- are you at y=11?

 Doctadeth wrote:
Comrade 87 - did you even POST you were building near my fort? Thats well within sight range, and I was planning to use that area.

He has been building forts all over the place, the Free Holds, I think. Even building some tiny towers near spawn. It seems he just wants to put his mark all over the place using basic buildings and it might be getting out of hand.

Also, seems there was a mishap at the Spawn Alchemy Hall. What could it have been? Fire? Creepers? Alchemical explosion? Considering that nothing but wood was damaged, I'd guess fire. But all walls and doors are also undamaged so that would mean the fire started indoors. Oh well, it's fixed now. Just thought it should be mentioned.

 Lotet wrote:

 Doctadeth wrote:
Comrade 87 - did you even POST you were building near my fort? Thats well within sight range, and I was planning to use that area.

He has been building forts all over the place, the Free Holds, I think. Even building some tiny towers near spawn. It seems he just wants to put his mark all over the place using basic buildings and it might be getting out of hand.

Also, seems there was a mishap at the Spawn Alchemy Hall. What could it have been? Fire? Creepers? Alchemical explosion? Considering that nothing but wood was damaged, I'd guess fire. But all walls and doors are also undamaged so that would mean the fire started indoors. Oh well, it's fixed now. Just thought it should be mentioned.

Spoiler:

Might be lightning from the same storm that killed some of the iron farm villagers.

So, GangstaMuffin, what happened to all the loot from the Spawn Armoury?

Don't know about the armoury, but I grabbed and used a bunch of the iron pickaxes in the spawn trading center that were in the 'Free stuff!" chest.

 Lotet wrote:
So, GangstaMuffin, what happened to all the loot from the Spawn Armoury?

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. Also, why am I being asked?

Just logged on in the first time in a while.. Dam you have all been busy

Anvildude wrote:
Don't know about the armoury, but I grabbed and used a bunch of the iron pickaxes in the spawn trading center that were in the 'Free stuff!" chest.

That's fine, it was all stuff gained from unlocking villager trades. There's also a bunch of enchanted books at the forge as well.

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

 Lotet wrote:
So, GangstaMuffin, what happened to all the loot from the Spawn Armoury?

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. Also, why am I being asked?

Oh? I was told you were the person remodelling the armoury at spawn, the place with all the armour stands and weapons on display, along with more free iron tools. I only see a sparse amount of the armour left, the rest, I don't know.

For the purpose of keeping things as reasonable as possible, could you refrain from assuming or implying guilt? There was no point at all in publicly singling gangsta out for what would've otherwise been a reasonable question regarding the armoury. All that sort of behaviour does is trigger raised tempers and ultimately make the process of actually finding anything out that much harder.

Make a general inquiry first, and if that turns up nothing, or you still suspect foul play, tell dark--especially if you suspect a certain player or players.

Is that how it came off as? My original post didn't have the name, that was added only 12 hours later.

I felt I should ask him in particular since I was told he was working on the area, and there was a chance he wouldn't know what happened to everything so I decided to ask directly. Otherwise, if he didn't know and I didn't ask him it would look to me like he just ignored the question or something. But if he did know then it'd all be relevant and fine.

But if you don't want names then I won't start with them any more.

Even though it was intended to be just a question and not an accusation.

Just a note to anyone continuing the west tunnel improvements while i totally burn up at work and dont log in i took 8 stacks of cobble from the supply chests at spawn (edit i ment the two doubble chests at the start of the west tunnel) to make into stone bricks to then make stairs from these are currently sitting in my auto smelter if you wish to find them,

It is in the blacksmith building on the left as you exit my portal. The only contents will be the stone blocks so just take them to continue the improvements ill hopefully be on again soon due to a bank holiday in the UK may 4th though this is potentially to be lost to international starwars day...

I dont see how this counts as "close"



Not to mention I've been building this for over a month now and he didn't say a word about it. At least a month before that I had one of my outposts there and it wasn't an issue.

The site was unmarked, no torches, nothing.

Could people please at least have the decency to either post here, or put signs near occupied areas when starting constructions.

If you build a huge house near a pre-existing base without attempting to contact the owner in any way, you don't get any sympathy.

 Doctadeth wrote:
Could people please at least have the decency to either post here, or put signs near occupied areas when starting constructions.

If you build a huge house near a pre-existing base without attempting to contact the owner in any way, you don't get any sympathy.

I don't see why I have to post every time I construct something.

Didn't see it as occupied since it was a giant tract of wilderness that's wasn't even lighted, not to mention no active nether portals anywhere near.

Not looking for anyone's sympathy. I'm defending myself from your accusations.

I'm not accusing anyone. I'm making a blanket statement.

 Comrade wrote:
I dont see how this counts as "close"

My take on it would be that if you can see somebody else's builds then you should ask permission. I avoid building even in the same biome as someone else without prior negotiation.

From my castle, I can see pretty much half your house Comrade, if you care to sample the view from my end
EDIT

Okay, I've now removed 2 months of my own work, and I am pretty certain I'm going to have to move because Comrade is not going to budge in this difference of opinion. I have literally just come back from a really busy and stressful time in my life, including the death of my cat, and some other issues at work. I am not amused at all. Comrade essentially is refusing to move at all. I have offered to help, along with other players. I cannot help it if my own timetable gets me back into minecraft after you've build a big house. You are pretty much implying "suck it up ****". You did not communicate or attempt communication even in Dakka forums (which I frequent regularly).

I feel justified in my anger, because of that lack of contact.

SECOND EDIT
I also feel like I cannot resettle easily, because of retaliation and as Comrade put in his own words "I like to put down outposts wherever I like:" I also feel strongly threatened. Mondo did not help the situation, egging comrade on to "build something to spite him"

 Cantium wrote:
Just a note to anyone continuing the west tunnel improvements while i totally burn up at work and dont log in i took 8 stacks of cobble from the supply chests at spawn (edit i ment the two doubble chests at the start of the west tunnel) to make into stone bricks to then make stairs from these are currently sitting in my auto smelter if you wish to find them,

It is in the blacksmith building on the left as you exit my portal. The only contents will be the stone blocks so just take them to continue the improvements ill hopefully be on again soon due to a bank holiday in the UK may 4th though this is potentially to be lost to international starwars day...

I've been working on it when I have time between projects. last I knew it was almost to stormlords place.

Was there a plan on how far the new tunnel will run?


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 Binidj wrote:

 Comrade wrote:
I dont see how this counts as "close"

My take on it would be that if you can see somebody else's builds then you should ask permission. I avoid building even in the same biome as someone else without prior negotiation.

just to put in my 2 cents and not take sides here, I would find that to be to close. If someone was within 120M of my walls I'd call that way to close and I'd tell them to get off my lawn.

Mining tunnels would be my main issue, as that creates a direction you can't dig in. It also prevents expansions without really encroaching on the other. From the picture it looks like Comrade boxed Doctadeth in, water on one side, you on another, that really limits his space and that makes it to close. Then there could also end up being an added lag issue being that close, I hear my place can cause lots of lag for older computers, so imagine if I moved near enough to you where you could see my building and feel it's lag.

I know dark can do some fun magic and move stuff around, maybe Comrade & Doctadeth should appeal to him to act as a mediator and he could help to negotiate a settlement.

Anyone within 100-200 blocks can cause issues, its not always what you see on surface, mining tunnels, there may be sub way rail lines or underground infrastructure below seemingly emptey lands.

Also may be claimed caves, spawners or mining rights to a area which at times are very valuable. A 50 by 50 is somthing like 100 + diamonds no fortune. High fortune hundreds.

Got to respect others land, needs some or you get chaos.


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That or a totaly below ground or builkt into a mountain, the only sign may be a small camoflarged door way on a edge of a Forrest.

Just to put up some more clarification, "Close" on this server (unlike on many others) is basically 'I can walk to it in the Overworld within a day'. We build big, claim big territories, and like to have unspoiled views.

The distance between the Mesa as it currently stands and the mini-Orthanc of KonradNovak (Looksie is actually really, really small- and that's over 250 blocks. The only reason it's at all okay is because we're both Wall Builders- there's clearly marked delineations of our respective territories that we both can be resonably sure we won't extend farther from.

For those who don't build walls, or create community style territories, you need a significantly greater distance, unless specifically invited in.


I remember back on the prior server, someone wanted to build in the shadow of my inner walls- this was before I'd started on the further out ones, though I already had plans for them- They were polite enough to ask, even though they weren't actually inside or directly next to my own structure- I told them what was going to be happening around them, and they were alright with it. It was all above-board, though, and agreed upon between each player.

If you don't have that sort of dialogue, you really need to make sure you find a much, much more remote area to build in. This is why we have the Nether system in place- to allow people to utilize more land and travel further out without significantly increasing the travel time- remember, the Map isn't the boundary of the world.

I agree with Anvil -- we have big open spaces here, and are actively encouraged to go find new places to explore and build. A bit of dialogue and compromise go a long way. There's very rarely any need to invoke strict server rules and move/demolish buildings, as long as we all make sure we talk to each other and respect each others' wishes. Doing things this way makes for happier players, and less work for Dark, which is win-win really.

Anvil! You're back! I had a question upthread: "So, if you're standing on the bottom of the tunnel -- where it's not in lava -- are you at y=11?"

Also talking of permission do we defo have permission from StormWarriors to build under the tunnel under his turf...?

Anvildude wrote:
The distance between the Mesa as it currently stands and the mini-Orthanc of KonradNovak (Looksie is actually really, really small- and that's over 250 blocks. The only reason it's at all okay is because we're both Wall Builders- there's clearly marked delineations of our respective territories that we both can be resonably sure we won't extend farther from.

Yep, and due to distance and hills, I can't even see the Grey Mesa's outer walls from my gatehouse. Granted, my wall project got a wee bit larger than I originally planned, but I'll fill it with a mossy cobble town eventually.

Hey Git, you know that you can make mossy cobble now, right?

@Sleit(Ian)- The block that I stand on in the bottom of the tunnel is the surface lava block. That is, if I was able to stand on top of lava source blocks.

How's your progress going? I've started doing the circling out- it's rather large. But pretty cool looking. I think we'll have the rail so that the carts are traveling at the center vertically? Or should we have the supports (the railbed, I suppose) at the center? I've found that carving out the upper half first is easiest, because you can't reach the top from the bottom or sides.

1. I've been getting back into MC and so I'm back, yay!


3. I finished tunneling to the "mainland" and have an exit tunnel near -500, 1000. I wanted to make sure that wasn't going to be an issue with whomever is right there. If so, it can be moved.

4. I was tunneling to connect to the overland rail system and looks like the closest connection will be at what I think is Suburbia @ -130, 830 ish and just wanted to coordinate with whomever is in charge there as to how to best connect to the existing system, or really anyone that can speak for that area.

5. I am connected in the Nether, South Tunnel.

6. Do we have a TS, or Vent, or Skype, or any kind of organized VOIP setup going? I hate to mine and type if I can avoid it.

Evil lamp: There is a rail connect on the NW corner of Surburbia, it goes to spawn. I see no problem connecting to it seeing as how Im the one who walled, fixed,lighted and repaired everything over there.

you could even build a small house over there, theres open plots

Anvil, is that y=11 or y=10... don't want to have to make this 12 blocks in diameter 'cos we're a block off when we meet up!

When I am standing at the bottom of the tunnel, f3 says it is level 11. I'm sort of sad that it doesn't have the head/feet positions anymore.