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You need that one for both quests. If you don't already have it from doing the main quest then the DG quest has you find it anyway.
Themed characters are definitely the way to go for me as well. Occasionally, the theme degrades or implodes outright, but I almost always have more fun if I pick a style and rp element and stick with it.
Finally managed to give Journey a try. Absolutely beautiful game. I'd listened to the soundtrack before, but when you combine it with the game it just gets 10 times better.
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Themed characters are definitely the way to go for me as well. Occasionally, the theme degrades or implodes outright, but I almost always have more fun if I pick a style and rp element and stick with it.
Agreed... I usually name my character after what theme I'm going for. Thus far, I've made Thor (one hand mace/hammers and lightning magic), Ghazgull (Orc who only dual-wielded axes), Conan (two-hand hammers/light armor), Imhotep (after the Mummy movies, he was supposed to be a pure summoning caster).
And the one who's name I cant remember, she was a pure stealth/sneaky assassin.
Anvildude wrote:I think Skyrim (and most Sandbox games these days) are most fun when you give yourself a couple limits. For example- My first character, I decided to go pure Mage- fireballs and lightingbolts everywhere, backed up by Atronachs. It was a blast (sometimes literally) and gave me plenty of challenge, since if I didn't see that Greatsword-wielding bandit behind me, I got facerolled. But then I started wearing heavy armour and using Bound weapons so Close combat was less trouble, and I just sorta... lost interest.
Got back into it now with a High Elf that I'm playing as a full-on Paladin- Resto spells and Sword'n'board only- no 2-handers, no dual wielding, no axes or maces (well, maces every so often. Paladin, after all). And no non-Resto or Illusion spells aside from a couple basic Flames spells for when you just have to Purge the Undead with Holy Flame.
I'm having a blast with him. Running around, hitting dragons in the face with swords and clearing dungeons of undead.
This is very true. On my first game I got to about level 40 and could kill anything I wanted in about 6 seconds with any type of weapon and most spells. On my current game, I've kept to heavy armour, archery (for Crossbows), and two handed. It's less versatile, but means there's a lot more character to the guy than just 'I can kill you any way I want, any time I want'.
There's also something refreshing about going into the 'weapons' tab and seeing a Greatsword and crossbow, rather than at least 2 of everything that my last game had.
Palindrome wrote:I have spent 97 hours in Skyrim and hardly even started on the main quest line, theres not much point in me getting the DLC. .
Actually, I'd say you're in the best place. I started DG before even going to the Greybeards, and it basically becomes a new main quest. It's very different to play when it's vampires rather than dragons as the main threat, it totally changes the dynamic.
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My character walks around with a daedric battle axe of souls, dragon bone armour (daedric helmet). I love standing there and letting a mudcrab try to kill me, and then just poke it.
Does anyone else make up a background for their character?
Also, I killed harken. Now I'm doing the college quest line. I want tHe archmage robes so I can get my magic skills to 100.
Then I'l concentrate on making my house, do the companions, get the other dragonpreit masks, do the main quest line, and then figure out how to get to Quasi-morrowind land.
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the shrouded lord wrote: My character walks around with a daedric battle axe of souls, dragon bone armour (daedric helmet). I love standing there and letting a mudcrab try to kill me, and then just poke it. Does anyone else make up a background for their character? Also, I killed harken. Now I'm doing the college quest line. I want tHe archmage robes so I can get my magic skills to 100. Then I'l concentrate on making my house, do the companions, get the other dragonpreit masks, do the main quest line, and then figure out how to get to Quasi-morrowind land.
I do tend to create a background for my character. My current guy originated in Skyrim, and was a member of the Companions before the Thalmor came. He left to take part in the Great War and since then, returned to Skyrim haunted by what he had seen and done. By banishing the Vampiric threat and eventually the dragons, he hopes to achieve redemption and put his past behind him.
Coincidentally, I also have a think about sticking with the same armour and weapons. My current character is around level 30, but still uses Dawnguard Heavy Armour and a Steel Greatsword, both enhanced but not enchanted.
To find Solstheim (not-Morrowind), you need to do The Way of the Voice and The Horn of Jurgens Windcaller quests. 2 Cultists will then attack you next time you visit a city. Search their bodies, you find a note, which threatens revenge on you. Go to Windhelm and talk to the captain of one of the ships. You may need to bribe/intimidate him, and he will take you to the island.
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Well the Steam sale starts on Thursday and doubtless the DLC will appear on it.
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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I just picked up Fistful of Frags for free off of Steam. It's a cowboy FPS. And did I mention it's free? I'm having quite a bit off fun even though I sick at FPS's
Ashiraya wrote: Don't you agree that Space Marine is wonderfully fluffy, Melissia?
No.
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Ashiraya wrote: Don't you agree that Space Marine is wonderfully fluffy, Melissia?
No.
I laughed way more than I should. I couldn't help but imagine Melissia as "Grumpy Cat"
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
the shrouded lord wrote: I'm up to the bit where you have to find the dragon elder scroll. I'm confused thoug because a main quest has you do the same, how does this change that?
Wait, so you're on a side-quest where you have to retrieve an Elder Scroll, and there's a Main quest where you have to retrieve the same Scroll?
the shrouded lord wrote: I'm up to the bit where you have to find the dragon elder scroll. I'm confused thoug because a main quest has you do the same, how does this change that?
Wait, so you're on a side-quest where you have to retrieve an Elder Scroll, and there's a Main quest where you have to retrieve the same Scroll?
With Dawnguard's main questline, you need 3 Dragon Scrolls. 2 of whom are from Dawnguard, one of which is the one from the "basic" game's main questline.
Nothing changes because of it - you just get to keep it until you do both quests.
the shrouded lord wrote: I'm up to the bit where you have to find the dragon elder scroll. I'm confused thoug because a main quest has you do the same, how does this change that?
Wait, so you're on a side-quest where you have to retrieve an Elder Scroll, and there's a Main quest where you have to retrieve the same Scroll?
With Dawnguard's main questline, you need 3 Dragon Scrolls. 2 of whom are from Dawnguard, one of which is the one from the "basic" game's main questline.
Nothing changes because of it - you just get to keep it until you do both quests.
Ah, gotcha. I never finished the Dawnguard quest...I was pretty burnt out before I got very far into it
Anvildude wrote: I think Skyrim (and most Sandbox games these days) are most fun when you give yourself a couple limits. For example- My first character, I decided to go pure Mage- fireballs and lightingbolts everywhere, backed up by Atronachs. It was a blast (sometimes literally) and gave me plenty of challenge, since if I didn't see that Greatsword-wielding bandit behind me, I got facerolled. But then I started wearing heavy armour and using Bound weapons so Close combat was less trouble, and I just sorta... lost interest.
I put limits on my characters and themes as well. For example, my vampire mage assassin wears light armor, but she does not wear the best light armors in the game. I limit her to Foresworn armor only, which is only slightly better than not actually wearing anything at all. It doesn't matter how heavily you upgrade that stuff; dudes with great weapons will still kill me dead in two hits. Drauger Deathlords will do it in one.
My dual-wielding Reguard only wears steel plate and uses scimitars (neither of which is top-tier equipment). I had no problem early on and through mid-levels, but eventually, steel plate starts to feel like light armor at higher levels.
My Norn sword and board fighter uses only Ancient Norn armor and weapons. Again, that's gear that isn't top of the line (and the armor is tricky to get, unless you know the one dungeon where it drops from opponents).
This sort of thing helps keep the challenge level interesting. It doesn't matter how good my skills are, if my gear is not as advanced as the stuff my opponents are wearing.
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Anvildude wrote: I think Skyrim (and most Sandbox games these days) are most fun when you give yourself a couple limits. For example- My first character, I decided to go pure Mage- fireballs and lightingbolts everywhere, backed up by Atronachs. It was a blast (sometimes literally) and gave me plenty of challenge, since if I didn't see that Greatsword-wielding bandit behind me, I got facerolled. But then I started wearing heavy armour and using Bound weapons so Close combat was less trouble, and I just sorta... lost interest.
I put limits on my characters and themes as well. For example, my vampire mage assassin wears light armor, but she does not wear the best light armors in the game. I limit her to Foresworn armor only, which is only slightly better than not actually wearing anything at all. It doesn't matter how heavily you upgrade that stuff; dudes with great weapons will still kill me dead in two hits. Drauger Deathlords will do it in one.
My dual-wielding Reguard only wears steel plate and uses scimitars (neither of which is top-tier equipment). I had no problem early on and through mid-levels, but eventually, steel plate starts to feel like light armor at higher levels.
My Norn sword and board fighter uses only Ancient Norn armor and weapons. Again, that's gear that isn't top of the line (and the armor is tricky to get, unless you know the one dungeon where it drops from opponents).
This sort of thing helps keep the challenge level interesting. It doesn't matter how good my skills are, if my gear is not as advanced as the stuff my opponents are wearing.
My Paladin doesn't use Orcish and won't use Daedric stuff- or Ancient Nordic or Forsworn. Why? Because it isn't 'Pure' enough. Even though that means I'm not using the best stuff I can.
I have a "Dervish" (I call it)- an Argonian dual-wielding maces that's all about pure speed. Only Fur armour, because that goes best with the war-paint.
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If I play through again it will be as The Warrior. Doesn't really carry stuff around between encounters. He may be allowed to keep certain magic gear like a ring/necklace, and whatever armor he finds is ok (not decided on light or heavy, heavy gives a significant advantage through the unarmed/gauntlet perk thing) but he goes in bare-knuckle and only uses weapons as he finds them, discarding (potentially vendoring if it's convenient) weapons between areas. Probably more barbaric light armors now that I think of it. Little to no magic, maybe restoration since he'll only use potions as he finds them.
Khajit, or to a lesser extent argonian, would be stronger for the build being better at unarmed, but the main trick is knocking someone out to get some gear. And none of that pesky inventory management crap. Or sneaking around. He's too cool for that stuff.
That's one of the interesting side-effects of going for a Speed build- because Inventory Carry Limit is determined by Fatigue (for some reason), the fastest characters are also the ones that can carry the most.
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