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 flamingkillamajig wrote:


Btw how does the 'dark brotherhood' and the vampire hunter quest-line work. For some reason i got the black hand of the assassin's guild and nothing else happened (the one you get for helping the aretino boy). Also for whatever reason i couldn't find the vampire hunters as hard as i tried. I tried going to the place on the map where it showed me and in one thing it wouldn't let me go passed a point and in the other i couldn't find a way to the point on the map it kept showing me. Nobody was where it wanted me to go and it was hard enough to get there. Wtf do they want me to do?

After you get the letter from the Dark Brotherhood, you have to go to sleep in a bed to trigger the rest of the quest chain. Next time you go to sleep, you will be kidnapped and end up face to face with the leader of the local DB cell.

As for Dawnguard, you can't get to the fort directly on the map (despite the quest marker hanging right over it). There is an unmarked cave (Dayspring Canyon, north of Stendar's Beacon) you have to go into and that will take you to the area the Dawnguard fort is in. Then you can go into the fort and talk to the guy about the stuff. You can start the Dawnguard questline as a vampire, but you can't complete it as one, unless you side with the Vampire faction (or have a particular mod installed) because the head Dawnguard guy kicks you out after a specific quest if you are a vamp.

Hope that helps.

Heroes of the Storm, Hearthstone, World of Tanks, Elite Dangerous, Mechwarrior Online and a bit of warthunder for good measure.

Playing some Loadout. I love how crazy that game's combat can get sometimes, with flaming spiral-bouncy-rockets flying all over the place. I don't really help much with my new Fire Pulse Skipping Extended Mag Full Auto gun. What can I say, I wanted a flamethrower!

Well it appears some things in skyrim weigh more than what they were made out of. That's pretty damn stupid.


Also, apparently if your follower gets detected, you don't, so while I've been sneaking through the thieves' guild quests, my follower has been slaughtering guards.

And this is why the game's development software is released free with it.

It's actually relatively simple to adjust things like damage or weight of items through the Construction Kit.

I did a bad thing and reinstalled Skyrim after having not played it for three years. According to my ingame hours I was sitting at something like four hundred hours from the first time I actually played it. Well I quite literally installed the game and played it for a day yesterday (as in from morning to night to morning again (yeah I'm on holiday right now...).

I can say so far that my perception of the game hasn't changed much. Not like when I went back to Fallout 3 last year and thought that whoever good it was when I first played it now the writing's just dreadful (though I have New Vegas as a comparison piece at least). Nah it seems all right actually. A bit shallow perhaps, but I think I'm getting into it well. I spent hours downloading mods, though I still think that I'm missing out on a lot of content (as far as mods go I prefer ones which add little things to the world, I mean for instance I have one which simply goes about adding hanging laundry about settlements). I would say that in the base game combat's not very good, and even with some changes its still not amazing (I'd like it if you could knock weapons out of the enemy's hand, throw punches with your free hand which put the enemy off and the like, plus the usual damage increasing).

Is it just me or are the Ash monsters from the Solstheim expansion a bit damage spongey? Maybe its just that I'm too low a level. On the topic of that DLC that place has changed a lot from Morrowind, but I guess put that down to the graphical update. Its a pity though that I had it looking one way in that game and now I'm having to change my perception of it with this one (put it down to the place being covered in ash I guess).

I'm also on the look out for mods which just generally add more bits of content. I mean along the lines varying up the loot and animal pools. Not silly ones like the Monster Mod however, which barring the silly difficulty increase, running across out of place creatures puts me off. The same goes for things like weapons. For one high on my list of things to change with that game is the vanilla weapon models. The mod I found to replace them has an image comparing them to paddles for one. I've been out of the loop for a couple of years so hopefully something good cropped up in my absence, even if it seems to top mods now are the same ones from back then somehow. I just wish someone had come out with a mod like Unique Landscapes for Oblivion by now (not to slight Skyrim's of course, rather I just loved exploring those really interesting looking environments). =P


Oh and damn, something I griped with about the main game, but are there not any mods out there which replace the stupid companion dialogue ones with something like New Vegas' wheel? I thought after Obsidian did it Bethesda would have stripped out the old system and just copy that, but I guess not. It was so much more intuitive. I hate having companions at all, but when I do feel like having one I'd like the experience not to be quite so dire (hell even in New Vegas I didn't like that I had to walk up to the NPC and talk to them to issue commands. Having a separate shortcut which allowed you to issue orders whilst they were within a certain distance of you would have been useful, otherwise you have a fairly basic level of control over them to the extent they're following you about like a dog on a leash. ...Hmn, actually Skyrim has dog as companions come to think of it).

On the topic of Solstheim, remember that Skyrim is set some 200 odd years after Oblivion (I think?) and Morrowind. If not longer. Plus, the little Moon in Vivec turned out to be an asteroid which destroyed most of Vvardenfell when Vivec's 'time freeze' mojo stopped working on it, and it continued its fall uninterrupted. So yeah, I'd expect the island to look rather different.

I do wonder if you can find Stone-Singer's cave, though, and play tunes on the rocks.

squidhills wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:


Btw how does the 'dark brotherhood' and the vampire hunter quest-line work. For some reason i got the black hand of the assassin's guild and nothing else happened (the one you get for helping the aretino boy). Also for whatever reason i couldn't find the vampire hunters as hard as i tried. I tried going to the place on the map where it showed me and in one thing it wouldn't let me go passed a point and in the other i couldn't find a way to the point on the map it kept showing me. Nobody was where it wanted me to go and it was hard enough to get there. Wtf do they want me to do?

After you get the letter from the Dark Brotherhood, you have to go to sleep in a bed to trigger the rest of the quest chain. Next time you go to sleep, you will be kidnapped and end up face to face with the leader of the local DB cell.

As for Dawnguard, you can't get to the fort directly on the map (despite the quest marker hanging right over it). There is an unmarked cave (Dayspring Canyon, north of Stendar's Beacon) you have to go into and that will take you to the area the Dawnguard fort is in. Then you can go into the fort and talk to the guy about the stuff. You can start the Dawnguard questline as a vampire, but you can't complete it as one, unless you side with the Vampire faction (or have a particular mod installed) because the head Dawnguard guy kicks you out after a specific quest if you are a vamp.

Hope that helps.

Which is funny because i never sleep in skyrim. It's kind of similar to real life how i barely sleep.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:


Btw how does the 'dark brotherhood' and the vampire hunter quest-line work. For some reason i got the black hand of the assassin's guild and nothing else happened (the one you get for helping the aretino boy). Also for whatever reason i couldn't find the vampire hunters as hard as i tried. I tried going to the place on the map where it showed me and in one thing it wouldn't let me go passed a point and in the other i couldn't find a way to the point on the map it kept showing me. Nobody was where it wanted me to go and it was hard enough to get there. Wtf do they want me to do?

After you get the letter from the Dark Brotherhood, you have to go to sleep in a bed to trigger the rest of the quest chain. Next time you go to sleep, you will be kidnapped and end up face to face with the leader of the local DB cell.

As for Dawnguard, you can't get to the fort directly on the map (despite the quest marker hanging right over it). There is an unmarked cave (Dayspring Canyon, north of Stendar's Beacon) you have to go into and that will take you to the area the Dawnguard fort is in. Then you can go into the fort and talk to the guy about the stuff. You can start the Dawnguard questline as a vampire, but you can't complete it as one, unless you side with the Vampire faction (or have a particular mod installed) because the head Dawnguard guy kicks you out after a specific quest if you are a vamp.

Hope that helps.

Which is funny because i never sleep in skyrim. It's kind of similar to real life how i barely sleep.

It struck me that in all the time I played it there I hadn't actually slept until there was a need to. Unlike Oblivion Skyrim doesn't have that mechanic where you need to sleep to level up (I guess people didn't like that), instead apparently all those dragon souls act like caffiene or something. I guess they didn't consider this when they implemented triggers which only occur when you sleep, ie the Dark Brotherhood questline and vampirism (youknow big things in the game). The first time that I played it I had a mod installed which required you to sleep, so I didn't have to go out my way to start the quest, but without it I doubt I'd ever start that thing as there really isn't a reason to sleep unless you happen to be curious. Huh, but this reminds me to install a basic needs mod (probably the cold weather one too if I can be bothered with its gak), just I don't just tote about the game just clearing out dungeons all day.

...Trying to find a bed to sleep in to start that quest though, hell. I forgot where the inn in Markarth was so thought I could find one in the settlements just outside the walls. Evidently people don't like you sleeping in their beds. Right fine, so how about that house down the road which the owners have run off from and there's Forsworn outside the door. Nah not that one either, I mean the owners might just wander back there for some reason. ...So I wound up in that mining town further along the road staying at the inn. That seems fair and all, bar the room in that inn doesn't have a door. I do wonder how the Dark Brotherhood were able to get in there and take your body all the way to that abandoned shack. Some scheme anyway.

It would be cool if they added something to encourage you to sleep. Like a small affect or something.

Have you guys never slept for 8 hours in an owned bed?


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From the UESPWiki Skyrim:Sleeping page:

Sleeping is the process of resting in a bed, sleeping bag/roll, or pile of hay to fully restore your health, magicka, and stamina.

As long as you are not a werewolf and do not have the Lover Stone active (see notes), sleeping for any length of time also confers a bonus to the rate at which all skills increase, lasting for eight in-game hours. A message on screen tells you which bonus you have received; for example, "You awaken feeling Well Rested".

In a normal bed, you receive the Rested bonus, which confers a 5% bonus to skill increases.
In a bed that you own, you receive the Well Rested bonus, which gives you a 10% bonus to skill increases. This applies to beds in purchased houses and beds that you are allowed to sleep in in an inn.
If you are married and you sleep in the building where your spouse is, you receive the Lover's Comfort bonus, which is a 15% bonus to skill increases.
The Lover Stone provides this same 15% bonus permanently (unless you select another Standing Stone bonus), but it cannot be combined with any resting bonuses.
(DG) If you're a vampire and you sleep in a coffin, you will receive the Vampiric Blood Rested bonus, which boosts your resistance to magic by 10% for one in-game day.
(HF) If you have adopted a child and you sleep in the same house as your child, you will receive the Mother's Love or Father's Love bonus, which makes healing spells and potions more effective.

The sleeping bonuses are all cumulative with the skill-increase bonuses from any one of the three Guardian Stones—the Mage Stone, the Thief Stone, and the Warrior Stone.

If the Aetherial Crown(DG) is equipped during sleeping, the skill bonus is not activated. You must unequip and re-equip it to sum up all the possible skill bonuses (Guardian + Lover stones + rested/Lover's comfort).

So maybe you don't have to rest for 8 hours even. But regular bed is 5% xp buff, owned bed is 10%, bed in same home as spouse is 15%. Apparently there's even one for vampires though I've never used that.

So not necessary, but if you've got a lot of skilling up to do, no reason not to rest even if for just the 5% from sleeping in a bandit's floor mat.

Lol sleeping in a bed in the same home as spouse. Wow that's pretty suggestive.

Now that I have a computer that can actually run the modern games I picked up Far Cry 4....really having fun going bow hunting, learning to shoot the thing accurately against wildlife and enemy alike. This is to give me something to play until March 24th when I'll be getting my GTA 5 on.

I guess, it's certainly not the bed-rocking mini-games of certain other titles... but that *is* kind of a thing that tends to happen between spouses. Of course, if you want to take it that way. Could just mean your MC relaxes better being around his loved one.

There's another different buff if you have adopted kids living in the house too, think that part comes with hearth..fire? Whatever the house building DLC is called. Fathers/mothers love or something like that, think it makes healing items work better.

Anyone else here playing HotS?

I played Arthas at first, but now I find myself enjoying Anub'arak a lot (and cursing excessively over the stun-on-legs, aka Muradin)

So.. I became a vampire. First time for everything and what-not.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
So.. I became a vampire. First time for everything and what-not.

Remember to feed regularly. The last thing you want is to go a few days without feeding, then fast travel into a city in the midle of the day. You'll be weak as a kitten and the entire city will aggro on you.

There is a mod available that lets you craft "potions of blood" (an item introduced in Dawnguard) at a cooking pot using human hearts and human flesh. Having a few of those in your inventory makes being a vampire easier, because drinking one heals you 100 points and counts as a feeding.

But but... being a starving vampire ramps your abilities up to 11! You've just gotta chill underground when you're hulking out. Or hide during the day, as a vampire should.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Anyone else here playing HotS?

I played Arthas at first, but now I find myself enjoying Anub'arak a lot (and cursing excessively over the stun-on-legs, aka Muradin)

No, because I didn't get into the Beta, and I refuse to pay money for it.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Anyone else here playing HotS?

I played Arthas at first, but now I find myself enjoying Anub'arak a lot (and cursing excessively over the stun-on-legs, aka Muradin)

Yep yep, Love playing Brightwing, Valla, Sonya, Sarge Hammertime and Diablo.

Playing MWO and Minecraft again. I may pick Fallout 3 back up sometime soon

squidhills wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
So.. I became a vampire. First time for everything and what-not.

Remember to feed regularly. The last thing you want is to go a few days without feeding, then fast travel into a city in the midle of the day. You'll be weak as a kitten and the entire city will aggro on you.

There is a mod available that lets you craft "potions of blood" (an item introduced in Dawnguard) at a cooking pot using human hearts and human flesh. Having a few of those in your inventory makes being a vampire easier, because drinking one heals you 100 points and counts as a feeding.

Good find.

When I first played the Dawnguard DLC I turned my character into a vampire and had them join that faction. The mod I used to make that way of playing livable was Bottle that Blood which well does exactly what it says on the tin. Of course its perhaps a bit cheatier than having to constantly milk NPCs, though the same could be said of the bottled blood included with the DLC itself, and at least this method of feeding has drawbacks (ie you can only do this to NPCs that are healthy, and doing so almost kills them. Animal blood doesn't give quite the same level of sustenance either IIRC). Of course eventually you'll have to either cure yourself of vampirism or betray the Dawnguard however. However I did like that you could be a vampire hunting vampire for a time, especially as I had that Daedric sword which was supposed to be used against the undead as well (Dawnbreaker? Yeah if you're going to play as a Dawnguard having that's fitting, or just dress up as a Witchunter and tote about with a crossbow).

I never liked the default vampires in Elder Scrolls lore. You get less human but stronger as you go longer without drinking blood. Luckily there are mods that change things up.

I've been playing 'Wargame: Red Dragon' with a friend. We just had a crazy battle vs 3 very hard A.I. The A.I. sure loves to throw massive waves at you. Mostly because they often cheat with resources though i did fail to take some early zones (you need zones to get points to purchase things). We won and probably could've won without the 50 minute time limit. As per usually each of us gets like 4 times the score of a usual A.I. opponent.

Reading people's posts here put me in the mood for Skyrim again, but I'm thinking I'm going to try to play the game as an ordinary person, just fishing and hunting and trying to make a living. I've got one of the needs mods, maybe have to look for some others to add variety to the tasks.

Maybe it'll get boring real quick, but I'm not in the mood for the main game, just the game itself.

I have a random fling with Skyrim every once and awhile. It feels like the healthier type of fling with no emotional attachments where we both know what we're getting into. Nobody gets hurt. Unlike my continual abusive significant other style relationship with my GW products... I keep coming back and getting hurt, and I *know* it's a bad idea but investment/feels!

For now though, I'm quite happy playing MnBoP. I dismissed all of my units and am continually sending my heroes on fact-finding (or right to rule) missions so I can fight solo. The Dark Archer of Doom! Ruby rune bow is just hilarious. I kind of want to get up to 30 strength so I can get two more points of power draw (and ironflesh really) so I'm even *more* likely to oneshot heavy knights or headshot-oneshot the heavier horsies. Gotta work up 2 more levels before all of that so I can get access to the Netherworld charger I looted though. It's slower than my horse is now... but not much.. and it's practically indestructible.

Still haven't sworn allegiance to anyone... but I probably will soon. Drumming up support in ravenstern villages so I can mass-recruit archers for whenever I do obtain a castle!

Starbound, the massive update has made it rahter fun.

Also civ beyond earth, because I need something slower to relax...

 Melissia wrote:
Starbound, the massive update has made it rahter fun.

Also civ beyond earth, because I need something slower to relax...

Oh, a new Starbound update...

They finally, finally made it so keybindings can be changed!

I can actually play the game now!

Hey that sounds kinda cool... I dunno horsearching is probably still more fun than digging for me... For now.