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Yeah... large quantities or extreme doses of fanservice turn me off of a lot of games, and animes too, one reason I haven't really picked up the witcher series yet.

I prefer some degree of separation, as FKM says, if I want a game I want a game. If I want an action movie, I'd prefer to have an extra 2-5 minutes of knife fighting/kung fu/ giant robots/car chases to a sex scene.

Oh well, it'll be what it is.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Yeah, the trading cards were a stupid idea. While being looking for pickups is Gerald's thing and vice versa, it was kinda overexaggerated. Apart from that, though, the game's top-notch and it sadly is one of the last RPG series that dares introducing actual moral conflicts instead of that Bioware crap.

I'll admit bioware isn't the best at it but i find 'the witcher' forced it's moral choices on you without giving you a chance to explore better options.

I still prefer Deus Ex: Human Revolution if we're talking about the moral issues of a situation. Look at the many ways to handle a situation in each part of the game and realize a lot of choices could be better if sought out but they exist. Also the ending decision of what to do was an actual moral decision which affected many people for better or worse. In the end you find regardless of the decision each has great consequences and ways for people to abuse each option like the little pr*cks we all know some people are. Even if you chose the 4th option to destroy the facility you destroy a facility that didn't just take a lot of effort and money to build and helped bring about some bad things but everybody augmented inside that was still hacked and under control would've had control released and would've been normal and not just that but all the pockets of under control normal humans would be dying too. My favorite part about Deus Ex: HR was the fact that you didn't see everything that was going on and had to hear or see it from other sources just like real life so you didn't even have a full picture but as much good info on it as one person could hope to achieve. I feel like 'the witcher' never did that. You had 2-3 extreme options in every choice rather than just a final choice after getting plenty of info on everything. Also 'the witcher' often gave infinitely extreme options like where you burn a town to the ground and kill off a whole angry mob and town to save a witch if you so choose. That said maybe i'm just not into craziness of 'killing everything down to a dog unable to climb a tree' or however he put it.

I just prefer Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It has hookers but no sex scenes. It's even possible to do a no-kill playthrough and get the achievement (and i have) but it's very tempting esp. during that massive ambush to give in and kill some people. In reality i probably would've had to as it was just too tough not to.

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Like i said before i'm a massive perv and throw it around in a lot of conversations but when i'm playing a game i do it for the game and not to fap. It would break the immersion if i had the need to fap every hour or so of playing the game.

There was a TV show called The Unit, that slipped this little gem of a line into the show that I've grown very fond of. Funnily enough, I've never really seen the phrase show up quite exactly elsewhere.

"A moral choice isn't a choice between good and evil, for one must always choose good. No, a moral choice is a choice when asked to find the lesser of two evils."

 Compel wrote:
There was a TV show called The Unit, that slipped this little gem of a line into the show that I've grown very fond of. Funnily enough, I've never really seen the phrase show up quite exactly elsewhere.

"A moral choice isn't a choice between good and evil, for one must always choose good. No, a moral choice is a choice when asked to find the lesser of two evils."

Personally in the end i find the choices often don't matter so much as how some things are carried out. Take political issues for example. You could have the same issue tackled with a similar method but in different ways and some would be tackled in a ham-handed idiotic way that doesn't work. It really matters more how something is carried out than the choice i think.

Btw this is often why i don't like the moral system in star wars because it's to black and white but i also don't like it in warhammer 40k because it's too crazy. Normally with those types of settings you either get over-simplified child-like morality or psychotic behavior that no sane person running any system bigger than a bakery store should have. I also don't believe in that 'ends justifies the means' crap. It's just excuses to be an evil jerk. That said i do realize there's a difference between wishful thinking and dreams and putting them to work in the real world showing they probably aren't such a good idea. For instance the USA supposedly should be about spreading freedom but we also need to watch our economy and get something out of it. Freedom can't run without food and shelter sadly and if we destroy our economy completely then we won't have either.

I dunno, I think that if someone properly, properly talented could write a Star Wars story that took into account that The Light Side and The Dark Side are real, actual, proper things in the universe (and dodge the whole grey Jedi, wishy washy cop-outness), would be completely fascinating.

Especially if you give the Jedi the proper moral choice. The sort of thing that Doctor Who tries to play with occasionally, but tends to do so in a hackneyed, hamfisted way (I can't save everyone because, arbitrary reason).

I do suppose that KOTOR2 played with the concept a bit, though.

I recently picked up Fallout new vegas. It was only $10, and I haven't played any of the fallout series, so I though I'd check it out. It's quite fun. Although I have been having some crashing issues.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I recently picked up Fallout new vegas. It was only $10, and I haven't played any of the fallout series, so I though I'd check it out. It's quite fun. Although I have been having some crashing issues.

If it's the PC version, then http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/? will be where you spend the next few hours.

Grabbing these:
http://nvse.silverlock.org/
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35262/?

Early on is a fairly good shout.

If it's a console version... good luck, have fun.

PC, thanks.

Have been playing Necrons but recently started up a tau strike force.
Was really inspired by the Mephrit dynasty so i re did my whole necron force in the mephrit colors.

Konstantine1089 wrote:
Have been playing Necrons but recently started up a tau strike force.
Was really inspired by the Mephrit dynasty so i re did my whole necron force in the mephrit colors.

This thread is about Video Games specifically. I see you are new though, welcome to DakkaDakka.

 Melissia wrote:
How is Gihren's Greed anyway? Heard good stuff about it so far.

I'm playing the 5th game, Threat of Axis on the PS2. It's a port from the PSP. There's a new PSP Gihren's Greed, but I don't have that so I can't speak to how good it is or isn't.

What I can say about Threat of Axis is: If you are a fan of the Universal Century-era Gundam series/OVAs, you will probably enjoy the game. There are scenarios for many different factions that let you replay the events of the various shows from different sides of the war (you can replay the original series, Z Gundam, and ZZ Gundam as each faction involved in the respective conflict). There are 400 (no exaggeration) different units to research/build and there are almost that many pilots/officers to recruit and use. I don't speak much Japanese (I know the odd swear word or two) but I'm able to follow what's going on in the game because I know so much about the anime. Without that knowledge, I would be hella lost. Especially considering the fact that winning any of the scenarios requires deviating from the events of the game (all the faction leaders die in canon; your leader dying in the game is an instant game-over, so winning requires knowing when *not* to do certain things).

That being said, it is a fun strategy game with an absolutely punishing learning curve. "Normal" difficulty is Nintendo Hard, especially in certain scenarios (One Year War, AUEG, Axis Zeon) and there are three higher levels of difficulty above that. I'm too scared to try them, though, as I'm still haven't beaten some of the scenarios on Normal, yet.

The draw of the game, for me, is the ability to take a faction and play them differently (from a moral standpoint) than how they acted in the show. I loved my recent run through as the Titans, having run through choosing to only perform good actions and avoiding all the evil crap they did during Z Gundam. As a result of being the good guy, Scirocco didn't betray me (and take half my pilots with him) and a few pilots from other shows signed up to help me fight the Zeon. Sure, I had to execute Bask Om for war crimes in order to keep my allignment up, but he's ugly and his mother dresses him funny, so it wasn't a loss. I just started an Axis Zeon playthrough, and I intend to run them as good as well. I know for a fact that if my allignment is high enough, then annoying mama's boy Glemmy Toto won't start a rebellion against me (and take half of my pilots with him).

Of course, evil gets to have fun, too. Low allignment forces get access to nuclear weapons and colony drops, which can make a battle a lot easier when you are outnumbered or your enemy's tech level is higher than yours. I ran Kycillia Zabi's Zeon faction as pretty evil just to see how effective nukes were at mid to high tech levels. The fact that my opponents had me backed into a corner had nothing to do with the fact that I started tossing hydrogen bombs around like footballs, I swear. I was doing it for research purposes.

Finding the game is the trick. It pops up on ebay only rarely (the earlier games in the series show up more frequently) and usually for a lot of money. Import games sellers sometimes stock it, but they charge a lot for it, too. I paid $80 for my copy several years ago. I saw it at a con last summer for $90. I really like the game, so I don't regret spending that much on it.

TL;DR: If you like strategy games and graphics aren't the most important thing in your life (it's a PSP port from several years back) and you are a fan of UC era Gundam, you will probably like the game, regardless of whether or not you speak/read Japanese (and there's a half-decent wiki that has translated event trees for the major factions, so that's a plus, too).

Hm. Hopefully not TOO much focus on ZZ Gundam.

Man, that series was garbage... the low point of Gundam history...

 Melissia wrote:
Hm. Hopefully not TOO much focus on ZZ Gundam.

Man, that series was garbage... the low point of Gundam history...

In the early versions of Giren's Greed, you always played as the designated bad guys. So when ZZ Gundam was added, you would have been attempting to squash that annoying bug Judeau. I don't know if the most recent versions carry on with that tradition, though.

Giving my neck a break from playing Pendor, my daughter likes to sit with me and watch TV while I'm in the office trying to play games so it's an awkward seating arrangement and hurts my neck =/ Switched it up to Agarest Generations of War again, its a good one-handed g... wait that kind of makes it sound pervy... Ahem... the controls are really simple so I can do pretty much everything (but quit) with the mouse, so it's a lot easier to play.

The difficulty seems to be ramping up so I forsee much grinding in my future... however I did just get the item that lets you make necro/clone/doll/whatever versions of the characters missing from prior generations(acts,whatever) of the game, so I spent all my money to get the current MC's Mom and Dad back to replace the gimp-ass fools they'd been forcing me to use. Should make the party a little stronger and help keep me from having to slow down and grind as much.

Eumerin wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Hm. Hopefully not TOO much focus on ZZ Gundam.

Man, that series was garbage... the low point of Gundam history...

In the early versions of Giren's Greed, you always played as the designated bad guys. So when ZZ Gundam was added, you would have been attempting to squash that annoying bug Judeau. I don't know if the most recent versions carry on with that tradition, though.

Hopefully at least. I mean, I found Amuro to be an irritating brat that grew up to be an annoying prick, but he's still massively better than Judeau at least...

 Melissia wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Hm. Hopefully not TOO much focus on ZZ Gundam.

Man, that series was garbage... the low point of Gundam history...

In the early versions of Giren's Greed, you always played as the designated bad guys. So when ZZ Gundam was added, you would have been attempting to squash that annoying bug Judeau. I don't know if the most recent versions carry on with that tradition, though.

Hopefully at least. I mean, I found Amuro to be an irritating brat that grew up to be an annoying prick, but he's still massively better than Judeau at least...

Did you ever see the Gundam Sousei manga? It was a spoof of the creation of MS Gundam. In one segment, Tomino is frustrated with Toru Furuya's delivery of Amuro's "Even my father never hit me!" line to Bright after the latter slaps him. So Tomino goes into the sound studio room with Furuya and engages in a bit of method acting by punching him.

It's amusing.

 Melissia wrote:
Hm. Hopefully not TOO much focus on ZZ Gundam.

Man, that series was garbage... the low point of Gundam history...

The ZZ Gundam scenarios are: Haman Karn's Axis Zeon (Z to ZZ) Quatro Bajeena's AEUG (after Blex is assasinated) Scirocco's Titans (after Jamitov is assassinated) and Glemy Toto's Neo Zeon.

If you play an earlier scenario, like the One Year War or the Z Gundam era, you will play out all of the events through to the end of Char's Counterattack. Though it gets a bit wacky in the Federation side of the OYW, as Haman's Axis appears before the Titans do, typically with a tech level five or more levels above yours (making the game even harder). Once you beat them, the Titans arrive... with a tech level five or more levels below yours (making for a curbstomp battle). But yeah, if you start in Z Gundam as Titans or AUEG, you will eventually have to deal with the ZZ Gundam events, possibly. Depending on your choices in the AEUG campaign, you may not have to recruit Judau and his gang (though you may want to, despite how annoying he is, as it's hard to keep most of your starting pilots alive and you'll need replacements). And if you roll as the Titans, you can whup the AEUG so hard that they never get the chance to recruit Judau in the first place (and you can capture the plans for the Z Gundam and Nahel Argama, too).

There are also "What If" scenarios that have little to do with any of the storylines. There's a "what if Kycillia Zabi staged a coup and started her own faction in the middle of the OYW" scenario; there's a "what if Char Aznable came out as Casval Deikum in the OYW and started his own Zeon faction" and my personal favorite, "what if Tem Ray didn't lose his mind from oxygen deprivation and the Federation gave him ALL of the money and resources to make mobile suits". Tem Ray's Army scenario is great... your tech starts out much lower than your opponents' and your pilots are all garbage (you basically only get engineers rather than aces) but you can research every single unit the game has in it's catalogue (except for ace customs, like Ramba Ral's Gelgoog, or Char's Rick Dom).

Currently undergoing another IWD playthrough.

This time, I'm calling it The Saga of Ineptitude!(Apart from the Bard.)

This is on account of my bard being a Jester. And all he does is be badass and take on the WORLD, whilst the rest of the party just fail to figure out how doors work. (Yep. That happened. Five out of Six party members spent god knows how long walking into a section of wall FIVE FEET from the correct doorway).

Also playing Baldur's Gate. For the 17,428th time. This one is called "Hey! Rasaad! Get back here!".

Oh my god is it the same bard kit they introduced in BG2 and that the EE allows you to use in BG1? Cause it's preeety OP IMO.

I mean just wait till you get invisibility. It lasts practically forever if you don't attack. And the chaos song still works. Even things will high will saves will eventually succumb and it's hilarious watching clusters of wizards get into fist fights and then start spelling each other to death

My Clan had a wicked awesome war in Clash of Clans. We pulled through in the end for a 75-73 victory!

Doing some light raiding in Clash of Clans right now.

Still working my way through AC:BF. Taking fortresses, building up my fleet (wow that is addicting!), and basically pillaging my weaselly black guts out.

Not sure how to find the 'Aid the Assassin' missions after seeing them on that initial map after you capture your personal cove. Do I have to go back to that map every time?

Also, legendary ships? Holy hell those things are tough.

TF2 and vanilla Dawn of War 2.

Attila Total War

I just completed the main game of Saints Row 4.

The only word I can really use is awesome. I mean, seriously. There's no better word for it. One of the last mission objectives is simply 'be a badass.'

I can't recommend it enough if you have a sense of humour and a love of classic geek culture.

 Compel wrote:
I just completed the main game of Saints Row 4.

The only word I can really use is awesome. I mean, seriously. There's no better word for it. One of the last mission objectives is simply 'be a badass.'

Not to mention doing a line by line reading of the Transformers movie, large ham et al.

Ah damn. I've had Saints Row IV installed for months and've been gradually chipping away at the missions. I must be close to the end now (I have all the homies) and plugging it here might well push me to try and finish it over the weekend. ...Then download Gat out of Hell and see what that's like. Hmn, I didn't really like either of those characters though and its apparently just mostly mini games (which there was plenty of in IV already), so maybe I'll leave it till the sales. =P

 BrookM wrote:
Not to mention doing a line by line reading of the Transformers movie, large ham et al.

That part was awesome

I now have 'The Touch' on loop... Again.

Love the bit just before the boss fight. Freaking hilarious.

 gunslingerpro wrote:
Still working my way through AC:BF. Taking fortresses, building up my fleet (wow that is addicting!), and basically pillaging my weaselly black guts out.

Not sure how to find the 'Aid the Assassin' missions after seeing them on that initial map after you capture your personal cove. Do I have to go back to that map every time?

Also, legendary ships? Holy hell those things are tough.

What's "aid the assassin" again? The mission's where you are getting the keys for the Templar armour? They should be on the map.

Yes, Legendary ships are hard. Don't bother until you get the swivel guns fully upgraded.