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The pose would be considerably improved by a bit of lean, either forwards or to one side (or both slightly forwards and to one side). It's the seeming balancing that makes the pose look ridiculous, rather than dynamic.

Depending on the terrain you use, you could lean it forward and have it kicking up some dirt/dust/sand. It made my tiptoed Ragik and Ekdromoi look much better.

The Ragik I forgive for being a droptroop. He legitimately looks like he's landing and its awesome.

I know they're popular and can be given (semi) plausable tech explanations (and might even be genuinely useful for certain opps

but I find the preponderance of swords etc in science fiction wargaming a bit off-putting.

A rapid fire gun of some sort will nearly always be preferable

(unless you're suggesting some sort of armour that would defeat.... but if so why would armies use guns at all as they'd be even worse at range)

If it's any comfort to you, melee doesn't happen in Infinity very often.

Some, like that Knight, are heavily armored and their melee weapons aid them.
Some, like Myrmidons, have a ton of optical distortion or hand grenades to get them into melee.
Some, like Ninjas/Oniwaban, have TO Camo to get them into melee.
Some, like Fidays, impersonate the enemy to get in close.

Each time, the model also has a gun. There are almost no dedicated melee-only troops in the game. There are only well-trained models that can excel at melee, but you'd prefer to shoot with them anyways. If you charge at an enemy into melee, they will be able to shoot at you first, and considering you're out of cover, it's not a good idea at all times.

Ok, just, picture yourself as an Infinity soldier.

You have a sword and you have trained with your sword so much that you are deadly with it. But, you are also a soldier, and you have trained with your shotgun also.
You know what your sword can do.


You know what your shotgun can do.


Wich one would you use 90% of the time?

Convert my shotgun to shoot swords?

 d-usa wrote:
Convert my shotgun to shoot swords?

Or have a sword with a blast template!

Not being super familiar with the rules, I assumed from the pose this guy was a drop trooper. That would explain the toe position. I don't like the sword though- actually the way he is holding it for a split second before I registered it as a sword I thought, "He's dangling from a drop vehicle by a beam of energy?"

This is a rare less-than-great for Infinity. Still not bad, but not up to their usual standards. He looks too much like he's mimicking "This is what's in my left hand, this is what's in my right hand" poses from other games companies. And he shouldn't.

Hey, at least it's better than "Baby's first steps" Belial.

Melee in Infinity is not that predominant, some troops may engage in it but it is order draining and still risky enough, usually even CQB specialized troops like the Ninjas and Myrmidons will engage in shooting.

Iffy pose aside (leaning forward, if I ever got one) its another pretty damned fine sculpt.

 Fafnir wrote:
Hey, at least it's better than "Baby's first steps" Belial.

While this is true, I'd like to think "better than GW" is a bar set a little low for CB. Aspire for that and they may as well aspire to "don't poke your eye out with the sculpting tool".

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
the weapons in Infinty are finally been done in scale, so expect smaller leaner weapons in more realistic proportions to the models carrying it and yes that means the weapons in the hands of HI models, that are far bigger than a human in combat fatigues inevitably look small in their hands.

It certainly doesn't look that way from the Raicho HMG. It should be at least half the size. All the TAG HMGs are way too big. If they at least had a good reason for being that size it would make sense. I suppose there could be unplayable reasons. Like they have a coolant system so the barrels don't melt, they have larger ammo capacity, etc.

I will say though that it would be nice if they make the weapons closer to real. People are going to need to get used to them is all. Especially 40k players who are used to over-sized guns.

Out of curiousity, what 40k guns are really oversized?

Pretty much every single infantry gun, really.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Out of curiousity, what 40k guns are really oversized?

um, all of them? If they were closer to reality they'd be probably half the size. Hell, can you imagine the shell that goes into one of those tanks?!! They couldn't even store the shell in the hold!

40K


Modern

 Fafnir wrote:
Pretty much every single infantry gun, really.

See, I know most of the tanks (Predator autocannons being the exception for whatever reason) but I do not think a lot of the infantry guns are "overscaled".

Actually the Autocannon on a predator is about the size of a real tank cannon.

I'm not sure about the lasgun myself but the bolt gun would have shells the size of a shotgun shell or bigger. The true scale makes more sense. Notice the head and gun are the same size? Still, where the hell does he keep the ammo?

Ever see a true scale space marine. There's some pics on dakka.

I've seen plenty of true scales. What I haven't ever seen are true scales addressing the ammo problem and where they manage to make the bolter look in proportion to the artwork we have of them.

Bolters are not pistols. They are fired two-handed. And the boltshells are pretty big.

Look at any of the artwork then.

Imagine how big a shell of the bolter should be in relation with the bolter's muzzle. Then imagine how many shells would fit in that teeny magazine. I estimate 5, maybe ten at the most. And imagine that bolters are always portrayed being rapidfired.

Fantastic - now please take the 40K stuff to... a 40K thread!

Thanks!

Anyway, I'm happy with CB doing a bit of a change to the guns. I think gun on the new Knight is great but I'm not into the pose that much. I'd rather the sword be at his side or back and have both hands on the gun. At least then he'd look like he's running.

I'm not familiar with the unit: is he equipped with another gun via the rules? I think it may look decent if you cut off the sword and hilt, make him hold another gun (from a SpecOp box), then sling the sword on his back or put it on the base.

HMG and AP CCW/Pistol.

Well as far as Raicho multi HMG goes I have two theories, either a ridiculously huge internal ammo mags as per background, or a really serious case of overcompensation.

 CDK wrote:
Actually the Autocannon on a predator is about the size of a real tank cannon.

I'm not sure about the lasgun myself but the bolt gun would have shells the size of a shotgun shell or bigger. The true scale makes more sense. Notice the head and gun are the same size? Still, where the hell does he keep the ammo?

Ever see a true scale space marine. There's some pics on dakka.

They fire .75 calibre bullets. This is pretty big. Look at the size of a 0.5 calibre gun. I'd say a boltgun is rather undersized.

 Alpharius wrote:
Fantastic - now please take the 40K stuff to... a 40K thread!

Thanks!

One more time guys!

Thanks!

 heartserenade wrote:
I'm not familiar with the unit: is he equipped with another gun via the rules? I think it may look decent if you cut off the sword and hilt, make him hold another gun (from a SpecOp box), then sling the sword on his back or put it on the base.

That is a rather fantastic idea! You can imagine him then doing some kind of 'Aeon Flux' style shooting people on both sides of him at the same time (which of course he can do because of his cool, sci-fi helmet )