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2013/08/22 14:06:53
Subject: Re:INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
At GenCon last week, Bostria from Corvus Belli held a seminar talking about the future of Infinity, with all sorts of interesting bits coming down the pipeline! But first a thank you to Guges from the Infinity Forum who gave me permission to use his photos of the seminar, and a peek at CB's explosive growth of the last few years! As usual, click on any thumbnail to see a bigger image. Thanks also to Doremicom for videoing the seminar and uploading it to YouTube (part 1 of 2 EDIT and now part 2 of 2 as well).
As this is going to be quite a long round-up, here's the section links...
Dire Foes
New Releases
TAG Designs
Warcor Program
Morat Redesign
ITS Season Five
New Releases
Next month's releases include a Yu Jing Pheasant Sniper, Haqqislam Qapu Khalki Starter Pack (all repackaged models), Combined Army Shasvastii Aswuang Spitfire, ALEPH Atalanta Sniper with Spotbot and a Tohaa Kamael box set of four models.
Dire Foes
An interesting slant on releasing more Spec Ops models and some much sought after civilian models, these sets will take the form of two Spec Ops from different factions and a Civvie model plus a scenario based around the Civvie and named versions of the two Spec Ops models.
'Not-Danny' v. 'Pass me another Missile Launcher!'
If you've watched Game of Thrones, Lupe Balboa doesn't need a lot of explanation, and also has promise to be a much better model than the current Vortex Spec Ops model.
Trasimedes, on the other hand, needs a bit of background. There's a long-running occasional comic strip by Alexander Nevsky covering some of the characters in the Infinity universe. A recurring theme of these is the artificial recreation of Achilles being a lech and waving his fair locks at the ladies - usually followed by the world-weary Trasimedes being passed a missile launcher to shoot Achilles and save the ladies, at least until the next backup body is decanted...
A lovely acknowledgement of the fans. :-)
Alien v. Alien
A female Tohaa Spec Ops and 'male' Shasvastii Spec Ops.
Bipandra v. Morat
Bipandra the Fusilier appears in many of the combat examples in the rules, always succeeding where the haplass Angus always fails.
PsychoticStorm v. Yasbir
Panoceania get a third Spec Ops for the Military Orders while Haqqislam get a Hassassin Muyib. In another great bit of fan acknowledgement, Konstantinos is one of the earliest fans of Infinity and does a lot to promote the game - his post count on the official forum is even higher than mine! While Yasbir has been beta testing Infinity with the CB staff from the earliest days and his Hassassin character has also appeared in Alexander Nevsky's strips many times.
Konstantinos seeing the model concept based on him, having travelled to GenCon from Greece!
Isobel v. Yuriko
A female Ariadna Caledonian Spec Ops and female Yu Jing Japanese Spec Ops. I'll be very interested to see how the sculptor of Isobel does the hair.
Civvies/Objectives
Now we get a series of five civilians and/or scenario objective models.
Notably, the Civvies are all pretty women - somewhat mysogynistic but given the large demographic of young male wargamers I can't really fault the commercial reasoning behind it...
The exception, our tireless/luckless Fusilier Angus, like Bipandra a staple of the rulebook's rule examples. With a big and slightly stupid grin...
TAGs
A whole bunch of TAG concepts were shown, including the much-awaited Nomad iguana and powered-armour operator.
Gecko (Nomad mini-TAG):
Plus, from the Datasphere forum the O12 podcast Facebook page, the Gecko as seen in the new Art Book:
Tohaa Gorgos:
Nomad Iguana & Operator, hopefully the Operator is still just a dolly and hasn't been posed yet:
Again from the Datasphere forum O12 podcast, a size comparison of the Iguana, Gecko and the Iguana Operator:
Finally for the TAGs, the PanOceania Armoured Cavalry is being reworked at some stage, very Glitter Boy-looking:
That's a lot of big stompy stuff on the way.
Warcor Program
Corvus Belli have given informal support to people who go out and promote the game, but are now launching an official pressganger/outrider-style program. No more details known at this point, but discounts on the digital versions of the tournament packs would be handy.
ITS Season Five
It sounds like the Infinity Tournament System is getting a big shakeup next year, answering most of the issues.
The first one listed above is first for a reason - the current ITS rankings are a purely cumulative score, play more ITS tournaments and you get more points. The new system is going to weight this towards how well you do in each event, but it sounds like there may still be a cumulative element.
Next come new missions. This year CB added a list of simple missions for the ITS but there are a number of balance issues with them, Supply Run in particular being winnable in the first turn with an appropriate list, winning the initiative and a modicum of luck on the dice rolls.
They're also inroducing a bunch of non-competitive formats that will still count as ITS events, but I have no idea how that's going to work.
Also, countries that have enough ITS events during the season will get their own national league, with the winner of each league getting a model painted by Angel Giraldez (staff painter for CB) as a prize. I'm hoping the UK scene is big enough, but as I submit something like 80% of the UK ITS results we'll have to see...
Morat Redesign
My, this 'summary' has turned out to be a bit long! Last but definitely not least, the Morats of the Combined Army are getting a starter pack (contents as seen above) and a major redesign.
Old Morat Vanguard v. New Concept Art
Overall a much more refined design, notably when it comes to the guns.
It looks like the majority of these will be CAD work:
I'm not sure what Scarface's shoulder pads are doing on there, but it looks vicious. ;-)
This appears to be the digital sculpt for the female Treitak Morat Spec Ops:
That all got a bit longer than anticipated, but that's how it goes.
Ian
The text for the work blocked (and no images as I wouldn't want to use up all their bandwith). Most of the info there has been presented piecemeal in the thread but it is nice to see it all in one spot.
2013/08/22 17:01:11
Subject: Re:INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
As to be expected, but it's great to get clearer pictures of the models.
I love the pulled up Agema visor on Atalanta that makes her fit in with the rest of the Agema. Strangely enough, if she is good enough to snipe without the use of that visor, why does she have it in the first place?
2013/08/22 17:36:02
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
Absolutionis wrote: As to be expected, but it's great to get clearer pictures of the models.
I love the pulled up Agema visor on Atalanta that makes her fit in with the rest of the Agema. Strangely enough, if she is good enough to snipe without the use of that visor, why does she have it in the first place?
It ends up straining her eyes a bit, maybe giving her dark circles under them too...
Got to look your best on the battlefields of the future!
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2013/08/22 17:49:30
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
Absolutionis wrote: As to be expected, but it's great to get clearer pictures of the models.
I love the pulled up Agema visor on Atalanta that makes her fit in with the rest of the Agema. Strangely enough, if she is good enough to snipe without the use of that visor, why does she have it in the first place?
It ends up straining her eyes a bit, maybe giving her dark circles under them too...
Got to look your best on the battlefields of the future!
Easiest explanation is that she uses the MSV when firing at something the Spotbot is 'spotting' for her, trusting her own vision otherwise.
Plus obscuring the facial features of a character makes their rolls worse.
Fact.
2013/08/22 20:01:22
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
The Pheasant looks a little stilted and awkward, but I can almost read the pose as a purposeful walk so, hmm.
Bitterly disappointed that the Qapu Khalki starter doesn't have any new sculpts, I am racing home, typing this and avoiding oncoming traffic as best I can through my furious tears, so that I can smash all my Infinity models with a hammer.
2013/08/22 20:08:53
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
plastictrees wrote: The Pheasant looks a little stilted and awkward, but I can almost read the pose as a purposeful walk so, hmm.
Bitterly disappointed that the Qapu Khalki starter doesn't have any new sculpts, I am racing home, typing this and avoiding oncoming traffic as best I can through my furious tears, so that I can smash all my Infinity models with a hammer.
Can't win them all I guess, starter gets exclusive miniature(s) people complain, starter doesn't get exclusive miniature people complain.
2013/08/22 22:57:05
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
plastictrees wrote: The Pheasant looks a little stilted and awkward, but I can almost read the pose as a purposeful walk so, hmm.
Bitterly disappointed that the Qapu Khalki starter doesn't have any new sculpts, I am racing home, typing this and avoiding oncoming traffic as best I can through my furious tears, so that I can smash all my Infinity models with a hammer.
Can't win them all I guess, starter gets exclusive miniature(s) people complain, starter doesn't get exclusive miniature people complain.
Standing as I am now, in the eerily calm smoldering ruins of what was once my house, your logic seems sound. Once the rage wells up though only blood, or substantial personal property loss, can quell it.
Time to place an order with Shae.
2013/08/22 23:14:42
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
@PsychoticStorm
Not sure if anyone said this but congrats on getting a model… you’ve put in tons of work helping new player along, including myself over the years and deserve it.
Very cool to be recognized another reason infinity is so different than other companies.
2013/08/23 04:59:13
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
He would be Dire Foes PanO MO SpecOps model. While the Haqqislam model in the same box while be Yasbir's the other fan model. Them there is ALEPH SpecOp Trasimedes (did I spell it right?) the model based on a fans online comic of Infinity. Lucky people.
Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy. I've got to do something.
Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.
2013/08/23 07:18:58
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
PsychoticStorm, did CB approach you at all when they came up with that figure design? I'm curious if you had any actual input in what they came up with.
plastictrees wrote: The Pheasant looks a little stilted and awkward, but I can almost read the pose as a purposeful walk so, hmm.
Bitterly disappointed that the Qapu Khalki starter doesn't have any new sculpts, I am racing home, typing this and avoiding oncoming traffic as best I can through my furious tears, so that I can smash all my Infinity models with a hammer.
Can't win them all I guess, starter gets exclusive miniature(s) people complain, starter doesn't get exclusive miniature people complain.
I might have been nice to have one sculpt in there.. on the other hand it's been said that this is a consolidation of miniatures (helping shop keepers to hold the range) so in that sense it is probably a wise decision.
I'm painting up a QP force at the moment but actually don't have any of the minis in the boxset (except for the Odalisque) so will probably pick this up for the better price point anyway.
Barzam wrote: PsychoticStorm, did CB approach you at all when they came up with that figure design? I'm curious if you had any actual input in what they came up with.
I was wondering the same thing....
Did you have any input?
Either way if anyone deserves that kind of recognition it's you. Alot of people play Infinty because of your tireless effort in answering questions and making people feel at home on the Infinty forums.
Thank you.
For those that don't know this is PsychoticStorms Model.
Spoiler:
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2013/08/23 16:09:05
Subject: INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
BTW, this is what it looks like when a games company actually cares about and likes their fanbase.
Anyone out there ready to throw their GW stuff on eBay yet?
Infinity: Way, way better than 40K and more affordable to boot!
"If you gather 250 consecutive issues of White Dwarf, and burn them atop a pyre of Citadel spray guns, legend has it Gwar will appear and answer a single rules-related question. " -Ouze
2013/08/23 16:10:32
Subject: Re:INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!
“Temporal Alliance”. Lupe Balboa Vs. Trasimedes
“Black Mist” Yuriko Oda Vs. Isobel McGregor
“Rescue in the Train” Bipandra Vs, Anyat
“Escape or Die” Konstantinos Vs. Yasbir
“Viral Outbreak” Aelis Keesan Vs. Hasht
And better quality of the already posted artwork.
2013/08/23 16:33:26
Subject: Re:INFINITY News & Rumors - Gecko, Iguana and Morats (Gen Con!) on Pg.193!