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Made in gb
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Devon, UK

Randomly renaming skills seems very unlikely, especially as it's been mentioned for two new units but not for all the existing units with Limited Camo.
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut



Canada

Could be a translation error too.
   
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor






Gathering the Informations.

Worth mentioning that Doremicom posted the skinny on "Marksmanship"...

The Skinny - What is the Marksmanship Skill?

While the exact wording of the skill will have to wait for the Corvus Belli official post, this is the paraphrased version of the rule:
Marksmanship Level 1

A model with this special skill will treat all BS weapons with a damage rating as though they are firing Shock Ammunition.
The Shock Special Ammunition provided by Marksmanship can be combined with any other special ammunition loaded by the BS Weapon. However, this special skill cannot be applied to non-leathal weapons (i.e. smoke grenade launchers, flash pulse, etc).
This special skill does not require an order or short skill to prepare nor does it require a successful skill roll to activate. It is automatic.

Marksmanship Level 2

When a model with Marksmanship level 2 declares a BS Attack (regardless of the weapon being lethal), the model can ignore the -3 modification to their BS Attribute when the opponent is behind partial cover.
Like Marksmanship Level 1, it does not require an order or short skill to prepare and it does not require a successful skill roll to activate. It is automatic.
For Lethal weapons, I believe that it stacks with Marksmanship Level 1.

   
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg





California

so I guess shock ammo is going to be playing a bigger part in the gameplay then.


   
Made in us
[DCM]
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I hope this isn't a candy skill, with every sniper getting it...
   
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Myrmidon Officer





NC

Maybe there will be a tremendous buff to Doctors in order to justify taking them (maybe no more SWC?) and thus more ready access to Shock Ammunition (and equivalents) will be necessary to compensate?

Aleph doesn't like all this Marksmanship stuff... :-(
   
Made in gb
Martial Arts SAS




United Kingdom

Hmm I wonder if the Briscards will be revised to get the Marksman L1 skill to use with their, you know, Marksman rifles

Either way I approve!

   
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant






I suspect Marksmanship 2 is mostly going to be an Ariadna thing, to give them a bone for not having MSV2 or anybody with BS over 13.

That's fine then, really.

 
   
Made in es
Martial Arts SAS





Pamplona, Spain

 Siygess wrote:
Hmm I wonder if the Briscards will be revised to get the Marksman L1 skill to use with their, you know, Marksman rifles

Either way I approve!


Don't forget the Scots Guards and their AP version


 
   
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Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

I want those pandas.

 
   
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Camouflaged Ariadna Scout





 Killionaire wrote:
I suspect Marksmanship 2 is mostly going to be an Ariadna thing, to give them a bone for not having MSV2 or anybody with BS over 13.

That's fine then, really.


Agree... I'm also understanding it that way. Instead of visors they have this skill... wich is better IMHO.
   
Made in es
Martial Arts SAS





Pamplona, Spain

Well, we have one BS 14 in Ariadna, but she's a character, so she's unique, Margot Berthier.


 
   
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Dakka Veteran




Devon, UK

 Absolutionis wrote:
Maybe there will be a tremendous buff to Doctors in order to justify taking them (maybe no more SWC?)


What Doctors are there that cost SWC?
   
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant






Doctors used to cost SWC... in the first printing of Infinity. The 2nd Edition (mostly Errata) made all doctors 0 SWC.

AFAIK, the only doctor that costs SWC is Bipandra. And she's got a whole slew of other problems...

 
   
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor






Gathering the Informations.

 Killionaire wrote:
I suspect Marksmanship 2 is mostly going to be an Ariadna thing, to give them a bone for not having MSV2 or anybody with BS over 13.

That's fine then, really.

Marksmanship 2? Maybe.

Marksmanship in general, I don't know. I'm kind of thinking this might be how Corvus Belli plans on buffing standard sniper rifle models across all factions.
   
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Combat Jumping Ragik






Beyond the Beltway

Machaon costs 0.5 SWC.

We'll see about Bipandra's issues soon enough. She'd be fine at 0 SWC. As is, the mini is a fine enough trauma doc. I like it better than the standard one.

 
   
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Myrmidon Officer





NC

Discontinued models:

http://infinitythegame.com/foro/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F10173-descatalogados-listado-de-referencias-que-desaparecer%C3%A1n%2F

Google Translated:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Finfinitythegame.com%2Fforo%2Findex.php%3F%252Ftopic%252F10173-descatalogados-listado-de-referencias-que-desaparecer%25C3%25A1n%252F&edit-text=

Removal from store:

APRIL (immediately)
Old Kum Boxed sets AND Izzat Beg due to new Kum
Old Morat Vanguard due to new Morat

MAY 31
Swiss Guard (ML)
Aquila Guard (MULTI)
Hexas (Spitfire)
Neoterra Bolts blister
All due to Neoterra starter

JUNE
Tomcats (Combi)
Tomcats (Engineer)
All due to Tomcats boxed set

AUGUST 31st
Both Knights of Santiago 2x Blisters discontinued
Due to Knights of Santiago boxed set

Additionally:
Interventor male discontinued.


Ultimately, nothing too surprising considering they're just discontinuing resculpted models.
Izzat Beg is probably the only surprise, but it's almost expected that he'd get a reculpt sometime after the Kum.


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Thermo-Optical Tuareg





California

Nothing I'm particularly going to miss, aside from the old style Morats. I almost wish they'd rename them as something else. They're really not bad figures.

   
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Norn Queen






So people worried about the 'hipster' Ghazi needn't worry. From the official boards, rumour is the sculptor is using a different person as inspiration for - I'm assuming one of - the females in the box. Kat Dennings.

Which will be interesting for line of sight.
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut



Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan

The Marksman and Ambush Camo rules were more clearly revealed in one of the threads on the official forums.

Marksman L1: All BS attacks count as Shock ammo.
Marksman L2: As L1, + ignore penalty to BS from cover.
Marksman L3: As L2, + ignore ARM bonus from cover.

Ambush Camo: Can deploy as Camo marker. May also deploy an additional, empty, Camo marker within Zone of Control.
   
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Norn Queen






Ambush Camo is interesting. I'm assuming, by that wording, it is like Limited Camo, in that you can't re-camo? Plus, is the second marker G-Synced for movement purposes?
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut



Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan

 -Loki- wrote:
Ambush Camo is interesting. I'm assuming, by that wording, it is like Limited Camo, in that you can't re-camo? Plus, is the second marker G-Synced for movement purposes?


I may have mis-paraphrased it. The original post didn't mention actually deploying the Spetsnaz as Camo, just the extra marker. A latter post said "Yes, ambush acts as camo but you deploy a second decoy camo marker within the spetznas's zoc" although it's not clear as to which kind of camo it acts as. It's all second hand (to me) and originates from a "mayacast" which I take to be a semi-official podcast.
   
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg





California

So it sounds like he can just come into play already hidden with a second hidden marker buzzing around him. Interesting.

   
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Infiltrating Oniwaban






Ambush Camo... like Minelayer but not as good. Hmmm. Let's hope they add it retroactively to some of the Limited Camo troops, at least.

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Norn Queen






 Savnock wrote:
Ambush Camo... like Minelayer but not as good. Hmmm. Let's hope they add it retroactively to some of the Limited Camo troops, at least.


Depends on the minelayer. Not all minelayers have camo, but all ambushers get 2 tokens. In fact, it can fool people into thinking it is a camo minelayer.
   
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Both rules sound pretty neat to me. I do think it might make more sense for his freebie camo marker to have to sit still, at least if his camo is of a more limited variety. Some kind of decoy he set up, rather than a projection of heat shimmers and signal interference. If he had TO camo for some reason, then it would make more sense to me? Though I'm an untested n00b looking in the window

Perhaps the learn-to-play thing at Gencon will be eye-opening.

 
   
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Leaping Khawarij





Baltimore

 -Loki- wrote:
So people worried about the 'hipster' Ghazi needn't worry. From the official boards, rumour is the sculptor is using a different person as inspiration for - I'm assuming one of - the females in the box. Kat Dennings.

Which will be interesting for line of sight.


Kat Dennings does not strike me as properly scaled for Infinity. But I would never in my life tell her that.

And I was totally looking forward to hipster mutt.

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Well done." 
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Wow, which miniature is based on Kat Dennings?!

Just looked her up on Google images and now definitely want to know more!

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
 
   
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Leaping Khawarij





Baltimore

 Pacific wrote:
Wow, which miniature is based on Kat Dennings?!

Just looked her up on Google images and now definitely want to know more!


She is certainly a very attractive woman.

*cough*

In regards to Ambush and deploying the markers? Maybe it is more like a combination of Limited Camo and Holoprojector. Where you have two guys deployed but only one is really there.

Chem's Infinity Blog - Dat Fiday - 7/31/14
Chem's 40K and Assorted Hijinx
CC Paints Endless Fantasy Tactics - Second Wave Assemble!

"-and all that time in Paris, when you were wallowing in debauchery with your doxies, tarts and pirates... you were trying to convince me you were a disgusting, swinish, lecherous, drunken sot... Well I want you to know it worked.

Well done." 
   
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

That sounds like a really nice "buy more minis" hook of a rule, but given how few you need for Infinity it's allowable

 
   
 
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