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Seriously?

 Alpharius wrote:


Additionally, please move the always fascinating pre-order conspiracy conversation to a different thread.

Thanks!

OK?

Moving oooon.

i still wish O:I would be something like Dark Vengeance: an official starter you can grab on the shelves.

Isn't that exactly what it is? (or will be in a couple of weeks at least?)

Have the new Warsenal silhouette markers disappeared?

Yeah, they were pulled because Warsenal released them too soon, or so the rumor goes. They were cool looking though. They'll be back.

Ah, here's news. Bostria will be in England at the Wayland Games Center on the 27th--. He promises to reveal more about N3. To quote him, "I'll try to reveal something awesome at the event, why not? Suppression Fire, facing, some concept designs... Once I step in England nobody from the evil Corvus Belli corporation could stop me!"

And Tabitha Lyons will have her new and improved bolt cosplay.

There is too much to copy and paste so here is the link is to the official forum http://infinitythegame.com/forum/index.php?/topic/24414-wayland-games-centre-opicestorm-event-sept-27-28th/page-2#entry513559

Maybe you won't get a server error. Maybe you will. You have to ask yourself, are you feeling lucky?

 Pacific wrote:
Isn't that exactly what it is? (or will be in a couple of weeks at least?)

Some folk think that because it does not contain a full ruleset it does not count as a 'real' starter (even though the full rules can be downloaded)

and some think it isn't because CB have not committed to keeping it available permenantly (at least for the N3 edition)

but it looks like a starter to me

Apparently, we have one Gutier's seminars at Nova!




Edit: nothing new in it ¬¬

@Up
Thx for edit note man....I would be pissed for watching hour and a half long vid just to realize its "old" news

It may be old news for some, but I came across this blog post that posts all the O:I Quickstart rules and other pictures from NOVA.

http://www.houseofpaincakes.com/2014/08/surprise-attack-live-from-nova-pre.html

There really doesn't seem to be much 3rdEd stuff in there at all. Not even rules for lieutenants.

15pg

Was O:I listed on the official sites miniatures list before? Seems to have popped up on Nomads and PanO as the 'latest release', could be another sign it might not just disappear as was previously said. That or I'm going crazy and it's been there a while which is also entirely possible.

It's been listed there for a week or so.

as a brand new player i cant tell you how upset ill be if the rules in icestorm arent 3rd edition or they change when the complete rules come out.

Icestorm rules are watered down. They appear to follow N3 but they aren't complete and are in certain cases overly simplified.

The model's profiles you use in introductory scenarios don't even match the ones you use in a complete game!

i dont mind if they add to the things we learn in icestorm i just dont want them to change things we learn.
i have a hard enough time learning it the first time around let alone trying to relearn it later after im used to it.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
as a brand new player i cant tell you how upset ill be if the rules in icestorm arent 3rd edition or they change when the complete rules come out.

The Operation Icestorm rules will just be a basic example (starter rules if you will) of the 3rd edition rules.

Wayland have got an expected shipping date of 19th September - is this still correct I wonder?

Hi Pacific, we should have some stock at that point, we don't know if all our order will arrive at that time though.

We have been promised stock for the launch event we are hosting should there be any other delays.

 Absolutionis wrote:
It may be old news for some, but I came across this blog post that posts all the O:I Quickstart rules and other pictures from NOVA.

http://www.houseofpaincakes.com/2014/08/surprise-attack-live-from-nova-pre.html

Holy cow, that table of his is great.

Biggest thing I learned from this blog post: There are tourneys doing prizes for awesome terrain now.

Seattle's local terrainiac deflatermouse would be a ringer for one of those. Is there such a terrain-prize at GenCon, Adepticon, or Feast of Blades?

The tabletop tourney scene is such an awesome thing. Thank god we nerds don't all hide in basements anymore like we used to in the 80s.

Do we know what the N3 rulebook cover will be?
It won't be just black with the N3 logo I'm assuming

It's possible!

Although with all of the great artists they have working for them one should hope that they would make use of them.

I've noticed actually that some of the Infinity artbook exclusive stuff has started to find its way onto the internet.
I think they should use this one and 'INFINITY - YU JING EDITION' written on the front

The other video. A bit more info, and some corrections of what was shown at Gen-Con (ML and Ojotnik ranges, for example). I'm going to watch it, I'll edit to specify the interesting stuff.




- they are trying to avoid the situations where the reactive player can't do anything but wait for the opponent's roll result. For example, when a mini moves into LoS with your mini, but out of your 180º angle, you only can turn around. He doesn't get into details, but now you will be able to dodge. Pretty much what Bostria said

- Cautious movement is the kind of rule that prevents the reactive player from doing anything, but since it's not an attack, the change is going to be minor.

- ML has a +3 in a 40cm/16" area, not just in 20/8. I think it goes from 60cm/24" to 100cm/40".

- Breaker pistols are not viral, they are AP rolling against BTS. This was also clarified recently.

- Game states: being prone, marked by a forward observer, suppresion fire, unconscious, inmovilized, posessed are different kinds of states. The concept of game state has been created to make a list of the different states, with the effects, the conditions for activation and cancellation

- They will release documents with information on how N3 affects the rules in HS and C. Like a FAQ.

- Some unit profiles from 2nd Ed won'be on N3. That doesn't mean this unit have dissapeared, this means they will be modified and re-adapted for N3 in the future.

- Nomad and Combined Army are the factions whose background is going to change more.

- Nomad and Combined Army are the factions whose background is going to change more.

How?? I like my die-hard outsiders as they are now.
One of the quotes from Human Sphere, "Declaration of Corregidor" I belive it was called, was hell of a speech ....hope it stay cool.

I don't know how. I guess it's going to have more stuff added than others, rather than just changing facts. I understand that they want it to be more complete.

It's going to be hard to make Nomads even more special snowflakes. But I completely trust CB to find a way.

I''ll take any changes to CA. Can't wait for those.

It's more that the Nomad background was written first and doesn't have the same degree of depth and reflection as some of the factions whose background was written later.

Gutier says in the video that the Nomad background was written in a night, and that now it's too obvious for him that it needed more work.

The Nomad background is rad as hell and if they lift one finger to remove the existence of "arboreal jugglers" there's going to be stern words.

Erasoketa - thank you for posting the video, and for the highlights from said video!

I had a lengthy discussion with Gutier about the Nomads background and I have to agree with him that he can do better, given how great Nomads background already is, it can only be good for Nomad players.

So one thing to look for in N3 that is not rules related

And now I expect the Black Hand to suddenly become part of the Observance.

Bleh.

I hope so. Anything that frees up development time for more PanO sectorials is okay in my book.