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 Riquende wrote:

Noir wrote:

Yup, it should be the LE you get with the up coming Angel Master Painter book.

Is this news or a rumour? And if it's happening, where is the book going to be sold from? Can't miss out on a Joan...

It's news, Angel showed a preview in his GenCon seminar. I think that the intended release period is first quarter of 2015.

Hello
October 26 I'll give more information about the book so STAY TUNED but meantime I would like to show this sneak peek for all of you.

- Giraldez FB (few pages back)

We should also get more information about this next month. Still... bollocks, but glad to hear it now.

 Kanluwen wrote:

They don't need to provide a model to accompany it, do they?

That is the "limited edition marketing shenanigans". To pretend that models like the Tabitha Lyons Bolt would have sold as well as they did without the "LIMITED EDITION" tag is kind of silly.

Models like Tabitha Lyons Bolt would not exist if the concept of a limited release didn't exist, she is what a limited release mini is about, something extraordinary not intended to be part of the main line.

Angel is financing this thing himself, so the 5000 may be what he can afford. He has the same aversion to kickstarter as the others at CB. He doesn't need the LE to boost sales, IMHO. I suspect it is meant as a favor to him from a very grateful company. They know full well that Angel's painting helps move the metal.

It'll sell out quickly. Everybody wants to paint like Angel.

I would love his book but the lack of airbrush means it would probably be useless to me.

 carlos13th wrote:
I would love his book but the lack of airbrush means it would probably be useless to me.

He does some brush work, so there is something to be learned. Also pretty pictures

oh wow! a LE for Angel's book! count me in! however i truly have to agree; this something i'd expect more of certain 'shall not be named' nottingham company. Don't get me wrong that i think's it awesome their redoing Joan (the old ones need so much help) but making another limited run? really? we all know Angel's book is going to fly off the shelves when it launches; having to scramble to get within the first run just to get the new Joan... hmm ah well such as it is; i'll be glued to the pre-order date on this one; just wish it wasn't that way.

As someone who loves collecting, limited editions tend to bump things into the 'get it, get it now' category. There's a little OCD corner of my brain that's annoyed I don't have the battlefoam yuan yuan and max scorpio, but I sure as hell don't want to pay what they go for on eBay, will have to find a Warcor to bribe for that figure they're getting, that or try and get more involved since there isn't one in my area.

Still the book was already a must have for me, but I can certainly sympathise with those who don't have the funds at the time, or start the game at a later date. I know Malifaux's tendency to overdo limited editions somewhat put me off starting when I found out I couldn't get a bunch of the minis I liked without paying scalpers rates (was looking at a dreamer crew back in the day).

I'm all for LE figures. They reward you for immediate support of the product (which reduces the burden of holding stock for vendors and then frees them up to bring through new stuff). They also can subsidize the main product if you sell the LE off at a moderate price. And you can swap one LE you want for another you don't (which I did with the Yuan-Yuan for Miranda Ashcroft).

Seeing yourself as being "deprived" of an LE add-on figure if you don't want the accompanying item is ridiculous.

Oh, and Angel's book: I look forward to that creating a giant wave of willingness to work with airbrushes by those of us who have one but are intimidated by the work required to get good with it.

I don't mind le models when they are alternatives. Cosplay bolt for example doenst matter if you don't get it because you can get a normal bolt. But when you can only get a model to properly represent a profile from a LE sculpt then I am not a fan.

 carlos13th wrote:
I don't mind le models when they are alternatives. Cosplay bolt for example doenst matter if you don't get it because you can get a normal bolt. But when you can only get a model to properly represent a profile from a LE sculpt then I am not a fan.

Well then, as the is only 1 LE model with a profile it shouldn't really be much a issue. The rest are Alt scuplts, warcors (all same stats) and non-profile models (ie. civilian). Just like the Joan is a Alt sculpt, nothing more.

Which is why I don't have a problem with the way cb is doing the whole LE thing ATM.

Noir wrote:

Well then, as the is only 1 LE model with a profile it shouldn't really be much a issue. The rest are Alt scuplts, warcors (all same stats) and non-profile models (ie. civilian). Just like the Joan is a Alt sculpt, nothing more.

They can't release a Chasseur with Rifle four years after the Ariadna starter pack hit shelves, and you think it's okay for them to have as many alternate sculpts as they do?

There are so many holes in the lines and missing profiles, not to mention things that now need to be updated to fit their new "biggerized" designs that they need to stop with the bloody alternate and limited edition sculpts and instead focus upon actually getting their stuff in order.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Noir wrote:

Well then, as the is only 1 LE model with a profile it shouldn't really be much a issue. The rest are Alt scuplts, warcors (all same stats) and non-profile models (ie. civilian). Just like the Joan is a Alt sculpt, nothing more.

They can't release a Chasseur with Rifle four years after the Ariadna starter pack hit shelves, and you think it's okay for them to have as many alternate sculpts as they do?

There are so many holes in the lines and missing profiles, not to mention things that now need to be updated to fit their new "biggerized" designs that they need to stop with the bloody alternate and limited edition sculpts and instead focus upon actually getting their stuff in order.

Yeah, yeah we know your never happy and they should be trying to make YOU happy. They shouldn't release a profile until the model is out, as no one can proxy models. It isn't like LE models help grow their company and player base, who wants more people playing Infinity as that be a bad thing right? Plus how much time it takes to do a limited number of models must take forever, it not like you basically posted about how not making more the 5000 copies of some thing is just dumb becouse it be so easy and quick. As for starter models, that is the way it has always been for someone so invested in the game I surprised you didn't know that, one model in the box is only in the starter box. But, not any more now starter box models look like they are going all 6 of them only in starter box. But, yeah damn them for growing their game the way they think works best, I bet they wish they could be one of the fastest growing miniature game company around. That answer if I think it is OK or not for you.

Noir wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Noir wrote:

Well then, as the is only 1 LE model with a profile it shouldn't really be much a issue. The rest are Alt scuplts, warcors (all same stats) and non-profile models (ie. civilian). Just like the Joan is a Alt sculpt, nothing more.

They can't release a Chasseur with Rifle four years after the Ariadna starter pack hit shelves, and you think it's okay for them to have as many alternate sculpts as they do?

There are so many holes in the lines and missing profiles, not to mention things that now need to be updated to fit their new "biggerized" designs that they need to stop with the bloody alternate and limited edition sculpts and instead focus upon actually getting their stuff in order.

It isn't like LE models help grow their company and player base, who wants more people playing Infinity as that be a bad thing right?

I imagine they're more interested with people buying their product. Buying LE doesn't strike me as an indicator of how many new people are playing or were introduced to the game.

No, but LE models build excitement and hype. I'm sure some people who bought the Cosplay Bolt (which wasn't much of a waste of sculptor time - it used existing parts from 3 Bolts and had a new head) didn't have PanO armies, and might now due to the excitement around the model. Same with alternate sculpts. Some people just like building and painting a nice model, so something like the Penny bootleg would appeal to them, as well as people who might not have (for some odd reason) liked the original Penny sculpt. It even appeals to Haqqislam players who might want another female Kum rider.

But since it's not a Chassuer with a Rifle, it's worth condemning CB and anyone who enjoyed them for wasting time and resources on things that aren't important.

Also, there already is a Chasseur with Rifle, true it's only in the starter box but it's not like there's no model for it.

 -Loki- wrote:
No, but LE models build excitement and hype. I'm sure some people who bought the Cosplay Bolt (which wasn't much of a waste of sculptor time - it used existing parts from 3 Bolts and had a new head) didn't have PanO armies, and might now due to the excitement around the model. Same with alternate sculpts. Some people just like building and painting a nice model, so something like the Penny bootleg would appeal to them, as well as people who might not have (for some odd reason) liked the original Penny sculpt. It even appeals to Haqqislam players who might want another female Kum rider.

But since it's not a Chassuer with a Rifle, it's worth condemning CB and anyone who enjoyed them for wasting time and resources on things that aren't important.

I'm certainly in agreement here, at best it serves as a please to those that do not play but primarily collect and/or to people that are intrigued by alternative poses, although I must say that people had told me they have different expectations for their centre piece model, Ajax, Father Knight, Taric, TAG and so on, having LE Bolt as starting centrepiece seems to clash with what I'd call a dominant desire. It's interesting demand that can be found in other systems. People like their Colossi or Imperial Knights.

I wouldn't be surprised for certain Penthesilea customers to purchase bootleg version. It's amazing trend, especially in video gaming industry, where a rare skin or item that might be purely cosmetic in nature yield a lot of actual money and interest. MtG also comes to mind, where collectors might want a particular card made by a specific painter or the art is printed across entire card.

New Joan might be do the same for me, the itch I cannot scratch, as it was one of the models that peaked my interest for Infinity. However similar to Bolt model, the price or entire package might be just too high for me to get it. Naturally, I wouldn't mind, if CB made limited run, similar to Bolts and Santiago. Alternatively I can only hope some soul out there will want to trade new Joan for LE Icestorm. I suppose it's rather interesting how CB forces you to interact with their dealings, should you miss the window (limited runs) you're given rather high price to pay.

Is the new Joan pictured (with the Saber hair) going to be the new standard Joan or LE one?

ImAGeek wrote:
Also, there already is a Chasseur with Rifle, true it's only in the starter box but it's not like there's no model for it.

That's the point.

The Chasseur with Rifle is used by myself and quite a few others on the official forums as an example because of the nature of the basic Ariadna starter set in comparison to many of the other basic faction starters. If someone wants to play Merovingia, they are either paying an extortionate amount for the Chasseur from eBay or they are buying a starter pack for a single model each time they want a rifle Chasseur and getting no use whatsoever out of the rest of the box.

Or they have to proxy the Chasseur with Rifle, because for whatever inane reason Corvus Belli felt it necessary to release the ADHL profile in a blister rather than any of the other profiles or the starter set Chasseur.

None of this is either news or rumors....

Well, seeing as how the previews are likely at the various third party outlets and now we have to play the waiting game while they sit on their previews until they decide to release them--there is not really much news or rumors to discuss.

Tabitha Lyons wrote:STRIKE AND STRIKE SWIFTLY !!

Is that the new 25mm base size!?

Now, we just need 19 more and some really big d20's

On a side note, the base is a little small, looks more like one of mantic's integrated 15mm bases Still pretty darn neat though.

You should see some October and November release information shortly

rich1231 wrote:
You should see some October and November release information shortly

That's right, today's the Wayland Games thing!

Hope you guys are getting good photographs of the tables...and the seminars.

Yes, looking forward to a full report of what is going on!

Personally I think th me tabitha model would have sold just fine if she wasn't LE. She'd have been a perfect edition to the bootleg line.

Stolen from the Infinity thread on the offical forums

Spears, on 27 Sept 2014 - 5:24 PM, said:
Couple of our forward observers attending the wayland event have returned their results. Including the worlds moodiest chaksa and a superjumping linkable missile wielding morat.





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