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iproxtaco wrote:I have a feeling that you have missed the entire concept of what the Wyches are supposed to be, hence you're irritation.

I agree. The wyches are fine for their purpose. In my opinnion they look great (yes there are ugly heads in the box) and succubus looks awesome.

Who cares if they are ugly, it's the point. Its to terrify the enemy they assault, a Guardsmen being assaulted by a Wych would probably be scarred. They may not be nice to you but to Dark Eldar it isn't.

Jain Zar. 'Nuff said.

I forgot about this ones...

Seriously, such a unit, with such a potential in the drawings I saw, why did GW ruined it with this model? He looks like "hey, I have pants!". And all of them have the same looking and pose... after seeing one of them ripping a Tau armor with its bare hands, I am dissapointed.

I hate the new Lelith. She looks like a drag queen.


Also, the new Grotesques having only one pose.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I hate the new Lelith. She looks like a drag queen.


Also, the new Grotesques having only one pose.

How do you know she isn't?

The wraithguard, I would say. But that isn't really because of the look, it is just that they are completely not posable, and a hell to paint when they stand like that and have those tiny flexes all over it.

The basic design of the Eldar just irks me. They look very silly to me.

well, the Eldar line is showing its age.

they look ok in all the artwork, but they didn't translate into model form very well.


new plastics should change that.

I agree with the Grotesque. Mincing around. It looks like it is doing (bad) ballet.

coolyo294 wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I hate the new Lelith. She looks like a drag queen.


Also, the new Grotesques having only one pose.

How do you know she isn't?

Because I have the model and that must be one bloody good mangina to hide it in that g-string.

Grimtuff wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I hate the new Lelith. She looks like a drag queen.


Also, the new Grotesques having only one pose.

How do you know she isn't?

Because I have the model and that must be one bloody good mangina to hide it in that g-string.

Maybe it's cold...

HURON. BLACKHEART'S. FACE.

Toastedandy wrote:Was Nagash ever considered a good sculpt?

I don't like Ragnar Blackmane because its so dated, also do not like this one with a passion. Stupid pose

''Damn you Xenos!!!!!"

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Also, i HATE the wyches they're like tranny cavemen. ugh :( glad i dont play DE

The reason why people think that they're female Space Marines is because of the powered armor, when in reality anyone (in theory) could wear and use powered armor. There's a couple of pictures in the Rogue Trader book with mercenaries that have powered armor that looks exactly like the Imperial Marine powered armor.

Off-topic, but this comes up a lot in our DH game...

The Vindicare of the group is a Hive-born female who was required to buy the Cybernetic Resurrection package when she was shot in the stomach with a bolt-pistol from very-point-blank range and then the building she was bleeding to death on top of was blown up from underneath her.

The Interrogator keeps pushing for her to buy a suit of power armor, rather than the usual cut-down armored bodyglove she wears, which adds little more than modesty since her body is all but entirely armor-plated augmetics at this point.

Her response?

"I'm sorry, Interrogator, they do not build power armor for people who are only five feet tall."

Why would you want a Vindicare in power armor? I feel like that would make them significantly less stealthy.

The Vindicare has stated that to the Interrogator a number of times as well (in a number of variations). Mostly, their banter amuses me, as the GM.

I also note, "above game" as we say, that all of the Assassin paths are built to be glass cannons. Sure, they deliver death with alacrity and gusto, either from distance or up-close-and-personal... but, they cannot *take* hits for anything. This, I think, is the Interrogator player's concern, he doesn't want to lose the Vindicare character if/when the enemy closes to melee.

My advice, as the GM? "Don't let your Vindicare sniper get into melee with Ripper Swarms, Interrogator."

The Tyranid Trygon/Mawloc irks me. The design is great, don't get me wrong, but the chose one of the stupidest poses. Some of the Eldar models could definitely use an update.

Mr Nobody wrote:Zoanthropes, it can't stand up.

Sure they can. They're now lighter than their base.

iproxtaco wrote:They're athletes with no gender discrimination, pumped up on combat drugs with the express purpose of killing their enemies at close range in the most pain causing process possible. Hence, they are all running, that makes sense, a standing Wych would look stupid, they are all muscled, because they are athletes that compete in close combat. Hair isn't the best I agree actually, and whilst not everyone is good at or wants to work with green stuff, I personally just cut the ones I dislike and make it better, or that's what I've done with my single box so far.

Well, the poster's preferences regarding running/standing I can understand. Even though the miniatures perfectly fit their fighting style, I can see why some people would like to include one or more standing ones in their army just to have that "strike a pose" image. There'd also be nothing wrong with a wych seemingly preparing to parry a blow just to get a bit of variation.

But the arms are pretty thick - I thought wyches are more about speed rather than brute strength. Would seem to fit better to their weapons. At the end of the day, they're still Eldar, so giving them thicker arms that make them look almost like Catachans seems a bit odd.

The muscle textures are appropriate, though. I think the stomach looks pretty good!

In the end, I'd say their Lelith - a wych special character - looks awesome. She should be considered a prime example of a proper wych, so other miniatures could well follow her example.

What's wrong with those DE slave girls, though?

His face always gave me a look of "We're the best?"

Actually, not just this piece of poo, but all dark eldar from 3rd edition.

Kerminsr wrote:

Actually, not just this piece of poo, but all dark eldar from 3rd edition.

..That was the very first mini I ever purchased, I know it looks silly, but I can't help but feel a bit of love for the dreadful looking thing.

Two things:

Wolfguard Battle Leaders. No matter what you do. No matter how you go about it. No matter... no matter what, they always look like their top heavyness is making them topple over forward. Their cloak also you can never get to look right, being that it is two piece and all.


Also this fellow. "HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AH'M A WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULF"

I'll just leave this here.






Private Dancer.

Chowderhead wrote:

His face always gave me a look of "We're the best?"

"O'Doyle Rules!"

My biggest complaint were always the elder avatar, farseer and warlocks...what's with the antlers...all they ever did was look bad. Same goes with the jet bikes...those look terrible.

Adiutrix wrote:


Also this fellow. "HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AH'M A WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULF"

Kinda looks like someone wired his lightning claws incorrectly.

I hate my Vespids. So much.

They are fast/fleet shock troops (well, probably were meant to be shock troops but instead became paperweights in my paint room) and yet every single one is just stood there like "Urhh...we meant to be flying or doing something?"

Worse pose ever.

Lynata wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:They're athletes with no gender discrimination, pumped up on combat drugs with the express purpose of killing their enemies at close range in the most pain causing process possible. Hence, they are all running, that makes sense, a standing Wych would look stupid, they are all muscled, because they are athletes that compete in close combat. Hair isn't the best I agree actually, and whilst not everyone is good at or wants to work with green stuff, I personally just cut the ones I dislike and make it better, or that's what I've done with my single box so far.

Well, the poster's preferences regarding running/standing I can understand. Even though the miniatures perfectly fit their fighting style, I can see why some people would like to include one or more standing ones in their army just to have that "strike a pose" image. There'd also be nothing wrong with a wych seemingly preparing to parry a blow just to get a bit of variation.

But the arms are pretty thick - I thought wyches are more about speed rather than brute strength. Would seem to fit better to their weapons. At the end of the day, they're still Eldar, so giving them thicker arms that make them look almost like Catachans seems a bit odd.

The muscle textures are appropriate, though. I think the stomach looks pretty good!

In the end, I'd say their Lelith - a wych special character - looks awesome. She should be considered a prime example of a proper wych, so other miniatures could well follow her example.

What's wrong with those DE slave girls, though?

The hair I can understand, but disliking the Wyches design, seemingly because they are Wyches, is what I disagree with. The arms are built up, but they aren't that big. The one on the left has her arm bent, so the muscle will look bigger, especially on an athlete. They aren't all about speed, it's combat, skilled or brute force, it doesn't matter. It's all about the spectacle of killing, they do this as a job so yeah, they are gonna be pretty damn muscled. Another thing is that they are all pumped up on drugs to improve strength, speed and the sensations they feel. I don't have the DE dex right now, but if memory serves, Lelith doesn't use these drugs, hence why she is more lithe. Having a bunch of standing Wyches amongst a larger group of running Wyches would just look, well, odd, hence why I repositioned the Hekatrix's legs so they were running as well. It just seems that the guy dislikes the entire concept of the Dark Eldar Wyche, on paper and in model form.

purplefood wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I hate the new Lelith. She looks like a drag queen.


Also, the new Grotesques having only one pose.

How do you know she isn't?

Because I have the model and that must be one bloody good mangina to hide it in that g-string.

Maybe it's cold...

You know if you look at pics of female bodybuilders you will find women who look alot like the DE female models in terms of shape and muscle tone. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the model for the poses.