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I like the idea. I hate basing, so doing it this way would be way easier for me. I suppose an alternate could be to have scenic slotta bases?

@melcavuk - In order to keep the models simple (easier to make, cheaper for the customer, easier to assemble/game with) Im going to be keeping the parts count to a minimum.

Typical infantry will have two parts - legs and everthing else, and the upper and lower parts will be interchangeable across infantry types to allow more variety.

Mechs will typically be one peice legs body and head, plus interchangable weapon arms/attachements.

To balance the more limited posing/customisation of the figures, I will be doing my best to make as many different poses as possible, and different varients of similar units.

Female miniatures - yes they will be present in the game in small numbers, and yes they will be sensibly dressed and proportioned!


@edlowe - thanks for posting that up here, I didnt get round to it.

The general facebook feedback was that most people don't like the idea, preferring the option of using their own bases.

Instead we are going to use slotta bases (very cheap in bulk, so don't add to the retail cost of a figure) and flat resin tabs on the feet. This means the tab can be very easily removed if needed.

In addition to the plain tab, we will also produce a number of different themed basing packs with small resin rubble piles/girders/sci-fi bits and pieces. Basically a really easy way to cover up the slot gap and create easy scenic bases.


Cheers,

Joel

How about doing something like what Pig Iron did, turning the sprues into rubble.

That is a frigging genius idea. Why don't more people do this?

Genius!

And that's literally the reply that popped into my head before I saw Snrub's post!

I'll third that idea! I wish more companies did that.

Wow thats a really good idea, id never seen that before. Certainly cuts down on waste.

We are definately going to try and figure out the best way of making rubble/tech bit sprue.

We dont generally ship sprue with our products, but for the afterlife figures we will try to include lots of basing extras in a row between the sprue and the figures, this only adds minimally to our costs and makes basing a whole lot easier and better!

I will be designing some specific flat insert pieces to fit on the base between feet, covering the slottabase gap.

Cheers,

Joel

Think you have chosen wisely Joel. Looking forward to seeing more.

Well we've been really quiet lately, sorry about that!

It's because we have been working really hard on getting stuff ready for the Kickstarter - mostly work on our animated trailer which is designed as a little introduction to the story of AFTERLIFE - Its been great fun to make and I hope you guys will like it!

I anticipate that the Kickstarter will launch toward the end of next week (4-5 days time) if Kickstarter approve it quickly, and it will run untill 9pm UK time on Saturday 16th November.

Here is a preview of two Unity Council units which will feature in the first KS.

On the left the Medium Exo-Mech, with two of the heavy weapon options - EMP cannon and Smart Grenade Launcher, and to scale (showing how big the Mech is!) A Unity Council Marine with Assault Rifle - Work In Progress still! Im probably going to swap his trench coat for something a bit more high tech!



I hope you like the models, I will be previewing as much more as I can during the campaign - which will cover the release of these two units plus two more for the Republic faction, plus perhaps some stretch goal options but that depends on you guys!

Cheers,

Joel

I'm surprised this is already going to kickstarter! You may want to make a new thread for that when it launches.

The renders look good, and should be easy enough to make in resin... but I'll be concerned if you're aiming for injection molded plastic if you have made sure these can be molded.

Anyway, will of course be watching and wishing you the best with it! As these look useful for many things.

 RiTides wrote:


The renders look good, and should be easy enough to make in resin... but I'll be concerned if you're aiming for injection molded plastic if you have made sure these can be molded.

Say what?

Maybe I should have phrased it "I'll be concerned if you're aiming for injection molded plastic but have not yet made sure that molds can be made for these models / there are no undercuts whatsoever".

Having seen Wehrkind's resin casting magic and also making urethane molds from 3d printed masters at my work, you can get away with a Lot of undercuts with a flexible urethane mold... but once you want to do "hard tooling" the undercuts become crucial.

I expect the Kickstarter page will explain exactly where they're at in that process, and if they're just planning to continue resin casting for these, it's no problem anyway...

Those look pretty damn cool. But man, that soon for a KS? I'm still reeling from Bones. Plus there's Mars attacks sucking away another chunk from me.

Not digging the exo-suit looks kinda like a bulky Halo suit. would like it too be more like the exo-lords or will that be a different faction?

So, what you are saying is that you want it to look like a Space Marine? He's said he won't be involving the Exo Lords stuff in any of the background. He wanted to do something uniquely his own, hence the new armor designs. I am really not seeing a Halo influence though.

Hey, i like Space marines and similar stuff

You are realy not seeing any simalarities?
or
samus?

I agree that the Halo-like helmet does look a bit silly. However, if the ExoMech is as modular as all your other models with removable heads, it's still awesome.

Thanks for feedback guys

@RiTides - We are launching this one now that we are ready too - its a trial run in a sense, so we can get feedback from everyone, and experience of the Kickstarter process before launching the main game next year, it also means we can get some of the models out there months earlier than otherwise.

No plastics yet, and probably never for smaller models like regular infantry - Having worked with resin for several years and seen the incredible quality and detail which we can produce compared to companies which have KS funded hard plastic/resinyplastic/PVC models, we are sticking with resin for the time being.

Proper plastic kits are certainly an option for larger stuff like gunships, heavy Mech's and so on.

@Barzam - I think I said "in a few weeks" a few weeks ago! Im sorry if its inconveniently times but the fact is that there will always be other KS's running, other companies releasing other products, and seasonal variations we have no control over, so its almost impossible to pick a "perfect time" to launch things. We will try to include a paypal pledge option for people who are unable to contribute directly during the campaign - which I know is quite short.

@Jehan, as Barzam said this is a totally new project, nothing like Exo-Lords planned anywhere.

Regarding the HALO similarity - Yes its there to some extent, but its a helmet designed to go on a human head. There are hundreds of existing Sci-Fi helmet designs and only so many ways to arrange a visor/armour/comms stuff around a human head so anything I produce is likely to look a bit similar to something already out there!

@Absolutionis - The heads will be one peice with the torso. In general the new AFTERLIFE figures will be nothing like as modular as my existing stuff.

Its somthing I've thought a lot about, and its a trade off - More components in a resin miniature means more modularity but substantially more resin and rubber are needed, and also more labour time, this pushes production costs up substantially, and also makes the figures more difficult for gamers to prepare and assemble.

As AFTERLIFE is (hopefully) going to be a game with mass market appeal, the figures have to be as affordable as possible and also straight forward to build and paint, so for this reason I will be aiming for each model to consist of 1-3 components.

Cheers,

Joel

 Anvils Hammer wrote:
No plastics yet, and probably never for smaller models like regular infantry - Having worked with resin for several years and seen the incredible quality and detail which we can produce compared to companies which have KS funded hard plastic/resinyplastic/PVC models, we are sticking with resin for the time being.

That is Very reassuring to hear! I love seeing companies that already know what the heck they're doing in a certain arena stick to it when kickstarting . Ramshackle Games did this quite well with their recent kickstarter, continuing to produce in resin.

So, this has me much more interested since I know you'll be sticking to what you're experts at . Excellent decision!

 Anvils Hammer wrote:
@Barzam - I think I said "in a few weeks" a few weeks ago! Im sorry if its inconveniently times but the fact is that there will always be other KS's running, other companies releasing other products, and seasonal variations we have no control over, so its almost impossible to pick a "perfect time" to launch things. We will try to include a paypal pledge option for people who are unable to contribute directly during the campaign - which I know is quite short.

Well, at least it is after Bones rather than during their campaign. I believe you said we would be looking at funding two factions' basic troops for this, right?

Still not seeing a Halo influence beyond the helmet having a visor though. I suppose that it has some vague similarities to the Halo 3 CQB helmet, but that feels like a stretch to me. The overall bulk and general design feels more in line with the heavy armor of 40k than it does Halo.

 Barzam wrote:
I believe you said we would be looking at funding two factions' basic troops for this, right?

Still not seeing a Halo influence beyond the helmet having a visor though. I suppose that it has some vague similarities to the Halo 3 CQB helmet, but that feels like a stretch to me. The overall bulk and general design feels more in line with the heavy armor of 40k than it does Halo.

So long as people disagree on what my stuff "looks like" I think Im in the clear


Yes, rewards for this KS will include a booklet of background material (with contributions and editing from Mark Latham, Ex GW studio and very experienced, so expect good stuff!) and 4 starting units - A mech unit and an Infantry Unit for the games first two factions.

The units released now will of course be fully usable with the first sets of rules when I can get those finished!

 Anvils Hammer wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
I believe you said we would be looking at funding two factions' basic troops for this, right?

Still not seeing a Halo influence beyond the helmet having a visor though. I suppose that it has some vague similarities to the Halo 3 CQB helmet, but that feels like a stretch to me. The overall bulk and general design feels more in line with the heavy armor of 40k than it does Halo.

So long as people disagree on what my stuff "looks like" I think Im in the clear


Yes, rewards for this KS will include a booklet of background material (with contributions and editing from Mark Latham, Ex GW studio and very experienced, so expect good stuff!) and 4 starting units - A mech unit and an Infantry Unit for the games first two factions.

The units released now will of course be fully usable with the first sets of rules when I can get those finished!

Nice that you've got Mark involved, he's a good fella. Any chance of a preview of what your ideas for pledges are? Would be good to be able to save up the pennys.

 edlowe wrote:


Nice that you've got Mark involved, he's a good fella. Any chance of a preview of what your ideas for pledges are? Would be good to be able to save up the pennys.

Sure as a rough guide - pledge levels will vary from £10 for just the booklet up to around £45- 50 for the booklet and a starter set of figures, plus any freebie stretch goals we are able to add dependant on how popular it all proves, with a higher "vanguard" pledge level for people who want to get involved with beta rules testing (And get some extra figures months before everyone else does)

Cheers,

Joel

Heads up Guys!

Launch of our first/trial KS is tomorrow, we will see how it goes! Thanks in advance if you are able and willing to support our project.

Cheers,

Joel

Are you gonna have a PayPal option? Please say yes!

~Tim?

Tomorrow huh? I'll have to try and remember to put my pledge in. The pledge levels seem pretty well priced, too. Looking forward to it.

Not super interested in another skirmish game but since I love Anvil so much I'll probably go in for a bit just to support.

You probably mean to say 12PM PDT. And damn I'll be at the airport getting ready to board a plane when this starts.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Are you gonna have a PayPal option? Please say yes!

~Tim?

I don't understand why people always want a PayPal opinion, KS accepts Debit cards as well as Credit cards....