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Its a bonus pack containing four of the most popular Battletech mechs that were previously the Unseen; The Shadowhawk, Battlemaster, Thunderbolt, and Locust. They're sold as a bundle (Idk if you can still get it) that includes 3 variations of each mech at varying payment levels along with a host of bonuses.
They go to the people who bought that pack on the 15th and go public to everyone in January.
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Money wise I got the Overlord. Someone on the forums did the math, and essentially removing the value of the premium time and the medals from what you pay you're getting 12 mechs at $1.03 per mech, which is an awesome deal. I get premium time anyway so for me it was a no brainer.
Also, this is pure speculation, but the Shadowhawk could arguably completely supplant the Centurion. This is completely dependent on how large its side torso sections are but since you can pack its weapons into its torso section and use the arms solely as shields it might make a better zombie than the Cent while carrying 3 SSRM2's and an AC20 and move faster than a cent with the same armament. Again speculation. if the Hawk has a massive center torso this will not work at all.
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I'd get the overlord, but if I do I'm not sure I'll have enough money for the limited ed. version of the farsight enclave hard copy, damn I'm torn between two worlds here.
The best part about the deals though is the mech bays for the mechs, so if the not phoenix mechs are crappy, or you have already mastered the chassis, then you can sell them and have heaps of space.
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It says in the info you get a (P) variant and 2 standard. What I want to know is are the Standard variants random or set? Cause I honestly have no use for two SHD-2H's. I could just sell the non (P) one of course and use the mechbay for something else but it would be nice to get 3 different variants to master the mechs with.
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Every 'Mech in MWO has at least three variants. Phoenix buyers would get one P-Mech (the variant advertised on the website), and a standard version of the two remaining variants.
Don't forget you also get garage slots for all the 'Mechs you're buying! The package indeed has a good value if you count everything together - though ofc it's still expensive if looking only at the money. I guess it depends on how nuts one is about MWO or Battletech in general.
Oh yeah, I got the Overlord package. Next week you'll see me in a glorious Battlemaster Assault 'Mech, as famously piloted by Theodore Kurita and Katana Tormark!
Aaaand you damn Kuritans take away my love for the BattleMaster in one fell swoop
I'll probably end up springing for the Overlord later today (if the farsight book doesn't go up for pre-order before then) otherwise I'll get the teir with the shadowhawk in it.
What about the Sabre package, anyone getting that?
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Nah. Griffon and Wolverine don't interest me much. I just want the Battlemaster and the Shadowhawk, everything else being an awesome bonus. The Locust actually kind of sucks when you look at it. It's a Spider K with no JJ (that variant at least).
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hoping there's a battlemaster that can pack an AC20 in one arm, though dual AC5's are always fun.
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Yeah. The Griffon and Wolverine do look sweet, but I'm satisfied with that I get. The Battlemaster is pretty much my main interest in the whole deal.
LordofHats wrote:Hoping there's a battlemaster that can pack an AC20 in one arm
I think the lower arm actuators would prohibit this on the basis of not allowing the necessary amount of crits?
It'd have to be a variant where the arm is converted to a weapons hardpoint like with the Catapult K2.
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Yeah. I know the (P) variant doesn't have the room in its arm (it's short exactly one slot) to mount the AC20, but I'm hoping it'll be like the Victor and have one variant that has enough space.
Automatically Appended Next Post: But like I said. Dual AC5's have served my Atlas DDC very well. Throw in 6 medium lasters in the side torsos and there's some punch in that Battlemaster that suits me fine.
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I guess I'm an all rounder. My favorite mechs are my Atlas and my Centurion. I like brawling, but I have a host of fire support mechs too (Dual AC10 Jeager, my Founders Catapult, a flanking dual LBX Ilyia Muromets). I definitely like brawling tho, and when not brawling I like flanking. Looking right now to add a Victor S to my ranks.
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That's cool, what appeals to you most about the play style?
I've always preferred the light scout, interceptor role offered by 'Mechs such as the spider, star slayer and similar.
I tend to max out armour and take short range weapons, although on mediums and the off chance I take a heavy I'll add one or two larger weapons for long range striking power, I dislike ballistic weapons.
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Krellnus wrote: That's cool, what appeals to you most about the play style?
It's not appeal so much as my mentality. I don't have the finesse for other play styles. For me every enemy mech is a rock and a rock is best crushed with a hammer I can be flexible in how I do the crushing but face to face conflict is just how I think XD Brute force is just the way I think in games. It's why I play tanks in RPGs, it's why I play bruisers in LoL, and why I use assault rifles in FPS games.
That said most of my mechs have longer range weapons (save my lights and cents). The nature of PUG matches means a close combat mech gets screwed if he can't engage beyond 500 meters. My Atlas has 2 SRm6, but 2 ERLL and two AC5's. I ran him with medium lasers and a AC20 for a long time but was out ranged too much in a lot of maps so switched to AC5s.
I've always preferred the light scout, interceptor role offered by 'Mechs such as the spider, star slayer and similar.
Yeah. Love my Spider. Little bastard can really mess up a team even if it never does much damage just because assaults and heavies will try to chase me. better yet, run into a brawl and start moving between them and watch the enemy team shoot each other up trying to hit you XD My 3L did it before but I haven't used the little bird in awhile.
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I can't really give up ballistic weapons. I try running things like the Trial Centurion, with the pulse lasers, or something like my 6ML brawler Stalker, but it just doesn't work for me. That's why I like my Cataphracts- Basic'd my 4x, and now I'm working on a 2x. I don't really mind the Large Lasers, but there's just not enough impact there for me.
Also, not having lower arm actuators really screws with my head. I like having that extra traverse with my main weapons.
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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Krellnus wrote:Aaaaand since it appears the Farsight book has no pre-order this week (you think it would for a 19th oct release but w/e), I'm an Overlord now.
Welcome to the club!
LordofHats wrote:Yeah. I know the (P) variant doesn't have the room in its arm (it's short exactly one slot) to mount the AC20, but I'm hoping it'll be like the Victor and have one variant that has enough space.
Oh, the Victor has one variant with no lower arm?
Interesting ... I did not know this!
Krellnus wrote:What style of combat are you guys preferring, any type of weapons specifically?
Skirmisher, mostly. I'm at my best behind the controls of my JR7-K Jenner, where I pull escort duty for my team's Assault 'Mechs or, if the opportunity presents itself, commit to hit & run attacks against opponents who are (preferably) already engaged with the rest of my team. Of course I also hunt down enemy Skirmishers; in fact those are pretty much priority targets given the havoc they can cause if left unmolested.
I'm also applying the Skirmisher attitude to my Centurion and the Dragon, as - in spite of their heavier weights - they do not really qualify as Brawlers as much as some other 'Mechs do. The Centurion makes for a neat "zombie" but has few weapons left if someone shoots off their arms/torsos, whilst the Dragon has more weapons but suffers from a hideously oversized center torso. So I tend to begin the match sniping with both (my Centurion has an Extended Range PPC, and the Dragon has an ER Large Laser), but advance when the rest of my team does and engage the enemy at close range. With my Centurion, this includes shooting salvos of LRMs whilst closing in to MPL range, whereas the Dragon just attempts to get in as fast and as close as possible in order to punch its opponent in the face with 8 SRMs and the Flamethrower. It also carries an LB-X autocannon which has proven to be very successful at ripping apart internals once the armour is gone.
I've recently started to try out a more support-focused role with Catapults as LRM artillery, which began as just a bit of credit-farming with my Founders' Pult before I noticed that this can actually be quite a bit of fun for when I don't want the adrenaline rush that comes with playing the other 'Mechs, for example late in the night when I only want to drop for a few more rounds before bedtime. Right now I've arrived at the K2 and have made it a sort of "tank destroyer" by giving it 2 ER PPCs (left and right mouse button), as well as 2 MPLs and 2 Machine Guns (linked to the 3rd mouse button) as backup weapons, and filling up the rest with lots of double heat sinks and a 315-graded engine for a top speed close to 80 mph. It's quite fun!
Weaponswise I find that almost anything has its use depending on where you use it, but I've come to like the PPC a lot for its "ka-POW" sound plus its effect on ECM-carriers, and the LB-X autocannon for the shotgun feeling and its efficiency at critting.
I tried the Ultra-AC but found it much too disruptive with its high chance for jamming, which (to me) always seemed to happen at the most inconvenient moments imaginable. AC2s are fun if you run them as triplets or even quads but they take up huge amounts of tonnage. For anyone who likes ballistic weapons, I can recommend the AC10, though. Scored lots of damage with one of these on two of my Centurions!
I wonder how the Battlemaster will feel. I actually started to play the Dragon chiefly because I wanted to get a feeling for heavier 'Mechs and slowly work my way up to the Assault class, after having played almost exclusively with Jenners and Centurions.
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I love the look of the Thunderbolt! It just screams 'Thud'.
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Oh, in case anyone hasn't seen them, the MWO forums have some screen shot size comparisons of Phoenix mechs and standard mechs.
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Lynata wrote: Looks viable - certainly more efficient than my Dragon, with all those Streaks...
The armour points are just a placeholder though, right? As it is considered standard to put more armour to the front locations than the rear.
btw
Yeah the armour is just placeholder, will probably end up being 75/25 front/back in the end.
Trying to make it a brawler as I tend to do with mediums and up, but I want that ERLLaser in there for long range punch, especially since it only has 1 ballistic hardpoint.
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Man, for once I'm seeing Ledabot in the game, and on the enemy team even, and before my Jenner can get to him I'm getting focused by a dedicated Light-hunter Lance of another Jenner, a Commando, a Spider and a Streak-boating Quickdraw with a hi-speed engine and jumpjets.
Balls.
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