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While I'm sure the amusing mascot suggestions are incredibly helpful feedback for Vic, let's not derail her thread any further, hmm?

To be honest, I'd really not care for a mascot model anyway. Not too interested in models I can't include in my army.

 Melissia wrote:
To be honest, I'd really not care for a mascot model anyway. Not too interested in models I can't include in my army.

This is entirely dependent on the mascot in question, but mascots can be used in an Imperial Guard army as bodyguards. I have two lions that I use as bodyguards for my Praetorian army and people love them. The lions have green stuff'd bionic eyes which I call laser pistols and claws and teeth which I call close combat weapons, and that is really all the hand waving most people need to justify the lions' presence on the table.

Again, the type of mascot is key. A fluffy bunny or a poodle in a ballerina skirt wouldn't necessarily convey the same aggressiveness as lions or bulldogs, but I imagine if Vic did decide to release animal companions for her model range the animal choices would be both suitable for each army type and full of character as is her MO.

There I was just going to use the fems as mascots since they obviously can't fight! /kid

Mantic has a really good looking fem trooper in their Deadzone rebels, proportioned similarly to Vics from what I could see. Only the one though... if Vics fit with her in Deadzone too, I'll be pretty damn happy at being able to expand my rebel force that way.


Bare midriff though I guess... but doesn't seem overtly sexualised to me.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
To be honest, I'd really not care for a mascot model anyway. Not too interested in models I can't include in my army.

This is entirely dependent on the mascot in question, but mascots can be used in an Imperial Guard army as bodyguards. I have two lions that I use as bodyguards for my Praetorian army and people love them. The lions have green stuff'd bionic eyes which I call laser pistols and claws and teeth which I call close combat weapons, and that is really all the hand waving most people need to justify the lions' presence on the table.

Again, the type of mascot is key. A fluffy bunny or a poodle in a ballerina skirt wouldn't necessarily convey the same aggressiveness as lions or bulldogs, but I imagine if Vic did decide to release animal companions for her model range the animal choices would be both suitable for each army type and full of character as is her MO.

Quick search for army mascots has some strange results, somehow inspiring fear as a defence mechanism does not spring immediately to mind.

Maybe a beastman on a chain could work although that could just look weird.

Woah, let's not get back on that subject so soon after a mod had asked us not to.

Aaaaanyway, looking forward to seeing what Victoria Miniatures has to sell this fall.

I don't think Vic has any need to copy Raging Heroes. Never mind animals, based on the WIP pics in this thread she already has products coming up that are both the sort of thing many people have been wanting for years that are also near-unique in their lack of embarrassing fanservice. If there are going to be special models I'd much rather see female characters such as officers for the different ranges.

As someone who is planning to start moving from exclusively mech to platoon based IG lists, I think any purchase I make to pad my collection of Guard infantry out will just exclusively be the flak vest female soldiers shown in this thread. I've already got 100+ Guardsmen and I much prefer the depiction of the IG that ignores gender providing you can hold a lasrifle the right way round. Soon I'll actually be able to model such an army.

I look forward to seeing all the combinations people will come up with.

Nice female heads alone would be a boon for many modelers. I can see people buying them to make guardsmen, sisters of battle, sisters fraternis (whatever the sisters in training were called) civilians, and more, in just GW terms.

In other ranges, the possibilities could be limitless.

 lone dirty dog wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
To be honest, I'd really not care for a mascot model anyway. Not too interested in models I can't include in my army.

This is entirely dependent on the mascot in question, but mascots can be used in an Imperial Guard army as bodyguards. I have two lions that I use as bodyguards for my Praetorian army and people love them. The lions have green stuff'd bionic eyes which I call laser pistols and claws and teeth which I call close combat weapons, and that is really all the hand waving most people need to justify the lions' presence on the table.

Again, the type of mascot is key. A fluffy bunny or a poodle in a ballerina skirt wouldn't necessarily convey the same aggressiveness as lions or bulldogs, but I imagine if Vic did decide to release animal companions for her model range the animal choices would be both suitable for each army type and full of character as is her MO.

Quick search for army mascots has some strange results, somehow inspiring fear as a defence mechanism does not spring immediately to mind.

Maybe a beastman on a chain could work although that could just look weird.

Wojtek the Bear!
Sure, you might need to make a somewhat Polish-themed unit (in the fluff) but there's nothing wrong with that!

I love Wojtek.

I'd love to add some female Guard to my army, though I'm holding out for those winter Guard at this point. Valhallans are awesome, even with ancient sculpts, and vic valhallans, with females (I hope) would be even better.

With the death of the collectors range, I'd imagine vic might be seeing a bit more attention from all those who want alternate Guard; nowadays there really isn't anything reminiscent of those ranges at the same quality level. Pig Iron has some nice models sort-of similar, and that's it. GW's foolishness is to her gain.

 Valhallan42nd wrote:
I love Wojtek.

Yes but would Wojtek love you

Yes, yes he would, he was a gentle giant that was raised on a diet of beer, honey and fags and after the war when he was put in a zoo he'd still gladly wrestle his old regiment members.

Now maybe back on topic before red text appears?

Folks, please note that Vic never even mentioned mascots. That's just wishlisting. As I said above: Vic doesn't need to copy RH. Her own work stands by itself. If it's a choice between female troopers and the regimental chimpanzee, please show me the first option.

Anyway, keeping things on topic, I wonder if this will lead other manufacturers to realise that there is a market for sensibly dressed female minis? I mean, as was said above, the Deadzone pic looks OK until I get to the bare midriff. Even in situations like that where the model isn't posed in a suggestive manner I still think a model like that in army of fully-covered men would be hard to take seriously. Who wears a crop top to a warzone?

If there are going to be separate head sprues for these models I'd definitely pick some up as well as full minis. To use an Imperial Guard example, it's amusing when someone will make a thread about how to convert female minis for said army someone writes a reply along the lines of "women and men look exactly the same in battledress, just pretend some of your Cadians are women" or whatever. For tabletop purposes on a basic troop model a head swap would IMO be all the conversion you'd need to tell the difference, particularly if you combine it with one of the kits that lean less towards massive heads and hands (like the command squads).

 Fezman wrote:
If it's a choice between female troopers and the regimental chimpanzee, please show me the first option.

Incorrect sir. Chimpanzees trump all others. Decent female models or otherwise.

 Fezman wrote:
Folks, please note that Vic never even mentioned mascots. That's just wishlisting. As I said above: Vic doesn't need to copy RH.

Definitely not!

Also, because you guys made me look, I guess sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_%28soldier_bear%29

I'm not too fussed about mascots, but you have to admit, Wojtek is made of pure awesome! I need to find a quality, hefty bear model that will fit in with heroic scale models to make my own.

With Vic's chops, she could quite honestly get herself set up with a friggin LINE of female versions of the regimentals, then variations on a theme, such as civilian auxileries, technicians and menial workers, Inquisitorials, etc.etc.etc.

I'd like to see a few that roll in alongside the Catachans, so old Rosy Grenade launcher isn't so lonely. Snipers, HW crews, loaders, walker crews, etc....

 Grot 6 wrote:
With Vic's chops, she could quite honestly get herself set up with a friggin LINE of female versions of the regimentals, then variations on a theme, such as civilian auxileries, technicians and menial workers, Inquisitorials, etc.etc.etc.

I'd like to see a few that roll in alongside the Catachans, so old Rosy Grenade launcher isn't so lonely. Snipers, HW crews, loaders, walker crews, etc....

Female Officers are a must! I could see each of the Regiments getting 1 or 2. On that thought, I'd request more medals/ribbons. I Love the Victorian Guard
Officer model, but I think he needs more bling.

Well, that settles it. Selling my Mordian Iron Guard, and replacing it all with Tannenburg Palace Guards.

My only question is if there are plans for some sort of 'special weapons' sprue. Some not-Plasma and not-Flamers would make me incredibly happy.

Either way, incredible work all around. Looking forward to having some female minis mixed into my army.

Yeah some special weapons would be ace. A command pack with kit like a banner, med pack, comms gear, etc, wouldn't go astray either.

 Blacksails wrote:
Well, that settles it. Selling my Mordian Iron Guard, and replacing it all with Tannenburg Palace Guards.

My only question is if there are plans for some sort of 'special weapons' sprue. Some not-Plasma and not-Flamers would make me incredibly happy.

Either way, incredible work all around. Looking forward to having some female minis mixed into my army.

I'm actually surprised there aren't atomizer guns or plasma rifles or anything of the sort. The only flamethrower I could find was in the trench raiders, and there is the excellent grenade launcher too. I know a lot of manufacturers make weapons like those, but I'd like to get em all in one place!

 Snrub wrote:
Yeah some special weapons would be ace. A command pack with kit like a banner, med pack, comms gear, etc, wouldn't go astray either.

Yeah, special weapons would be nice.

 Brother SRM wrote:

I'm actually surprised there aren't atomizer guns or plasma rifles or anything of the sort. The only flamethrower I could find was in the trench raiders, and there is the excellent grenade launcher too. I know a lot of manufacturers make weapons like those, but I'd like to get em all in one place!

Well there's a Fusion gun available that someone linked earlier in this thread, though I can't for the life of me find normally on the website. Its also conveniently (for me) available in the Tannenburg Palace Guard pack, but only one per 10 minis.

I would make it rain money at Victoria Miniatures if I could buy special weapons in packs.

 Valhallan42nd wrote:
I love Wojtek.

Everybody loves Wojtek. Except the Nazis.

Back on-topic, I asked Victoria about the availability of separate Broolian Beastmen legs and was told that they will be available after the Beastmen are done in resin, which will take a couple of months.

Are all the lines being moved to resin?

That they are.

But...but...now I have to wait for the resin-y goodness.

I'm sad that the lines are going resin, I love the feel of metal minis. That said I'm sure the new level of detail Vic will be able to reach will ease my pain.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I'm sad that the lines are going resin, I love the feel of metal minis. That said I'm sure the new level of detail Vic will be able to reach will ease my pain.

Don't look at it like your losing a metal mini, but that your gaining a resin one!