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I feel that he was the most 'complete' pop musician in that he was technically excellent, an extraordinarily gifted songwriter, and in terms of live performance skills...
Well:
It's hard to argue with that. I love Bowie, don't get me wrong, but he can't match Mercury's command (and that's precisely the word) of an audience.
Albatross wrote: I feel that he was the most 'complete' pop musician in that he was technically excellent, an extraordinarily gifted songwriter, and in terms of live performance skills...
Well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0omja1ivpx0 It's hard to argue with that. I love Bowie, don't get me wrong, but he can't match Mercury's command (and that's precisely the word) of an audience.
Yes, but he never made Heroes. Granted, neither have anything on Brian Eno.
Albatross wrote: I feel that he was the most 'complete' pop musician in that he was technically excellent, an extraordinarily gifted songwriter, and in terms of live performance skills...
Well:
It's hard to argue with that. I love Bowie, don't get me wrong, but he can't match Mercury's command (and that's precisely the word) of an audience.
I feel David Bowie had more albums that were true classics (especially Heroes, Hunk Dory and The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars), the only Queen album I feel is a true classic is "A Night at the Opera" Queen may have had other solid albums or really
good songs but "A Night at the Opera" is there most consistent album in terms of quality songs (no filler imo), everything else you said I agree with though.
Albatross wrote: I feel that he was the most 'complete' pop musician in that he was technically excellent, an extraordinarily gifted songwriter, and in terms of live performance skills...
Well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0omja1ivpx0 It's hard to argue with that. I love Bowie, don't get me wrong, but he can't match Mercury's command (and that's precisely the word) of an audience.
Yes, but he never made Heroes. Granted, neither have anything on Brian Eno.
fething hipsters....
Mate, you should move over here and get a loft apartment in Manchester's Northern Quarter. You'd fit right in.
I feel David Bowie had more albums that were true classics (especially Heroes, Hunk Dory and The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars), the only Queen album I feel is a true classic is "A Night at the Opera"
That's probably a fair point, but the reason for that is the way Queen albums were structured around songwriting royalties - basically, they were more about ensuring everyone gets paid by having tunes on the record, which meant that some shocking songs ended up on Queen albums. You forgot about News of the World, though. Great Record. Also, Queen Live at Wembley is the best live DVD currently available. It literally changed my life.
Queen may have had other solid albums or really good songs but "A Night at the Opera" is there most consistent album in terms of quality songs (no filler imo)
Aha, here's the flip side of that coin, though - Queen, whilst they may have the less consistent albums, have a greater body of top-quality songs, The 'best-of' Test is usually a good measure of that. Bowie's is a double LP that could easily be a long single LP, whereas Queen have 2 full LPs of bona fide classic songs, with stuff still left out. It's understandable, though. They had four songwriters in the band.
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Albatross wrote: I feel that he was the most 'complete' pop musician in that he was technically excellent, an extraordinarily gifted songwriter, and in terms of live performance skills...
Well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0omja1ivpx0 It's hard to argue with that. I love Bowie, don't get me wrong, but he can't match Mercury's command (and that's precisely the word) of an audience.
Yes, but he never made Heroes. Granted, neither have anything on Brian Eno.
I'm not sure if Brian Eno works as well as an example as his music is probably too intellectual or experimental to appeal to mainstream audiences, unlike Freddie Mercury or David Bowie who have mainstream appeal as well as being very competent musicians. Like one of my favourite
band is the Stooges but most people will never understand why I like them so much since it is too bizarre, primitive, aggressive for most people despite there tremendous influence on punk rock and being real modern for the time.
Eno can do pop music with the best of them though. Remember, he started out in Roxy Music, and has collaborated with a lot of artists on a lot of different projects.
Hell, ever hear of a little band called U2? A lot of their sound came from Eno.
Fafnir wrote: Eno can do pop music with the best of them though. Remember, he started out in Roxy Music, and has collaborated with a lot of artists on a lot of different projects.
Hell, ever hear of a little band called U2? A lot of their sound came from Eno.
OK fair enough, I don't know that much about Brian Eno (so I'll take your word on it) other than he seems to have released a lot of high quality materiel, I've only listened to few of his songs but I like what I've heard so far.
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Right now, Hellacopters, Gluecifer, Turbonegro, and the supersuckers.
My speakers sound like they are dying... although that may be because it's so loud the orks on my table are literally moshing since the desk is shaking
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I used to listen to Pennywise a lot when I was in my late teens (About Time is great album) but I forgot all about them until I discovered thier new album while doing some random Youtube searching. Its suprisingly good.
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RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog
Queen may have had other solid albums or really good songs but "A Night at the Opera" is there most consistent album in terms of quality songs (no filler imo)
Aha, here's the flip side of that coin, though - Queen, whilst they may have the less consistent albums, have a greater body of top-quality songs, The 'best-of' Test is usually a good measure of that. Bowie's is a double LP that could easily be a long single LP, whereas Queen have 2 full LPs of bona fide classic songs, with stuff still left out. It's understandable, though. They had four songwriters in the band.
I'll take you word for it but I've never been a big fan of "best of" albums as they usually just consist of a band's or artist's most well known songs, when they could have more obscure but equally good songs that you're missing out on but could get from other albums.
...I've never been a big fan of "best of" albums as they usually just consist of a band's or artist's most well known songs, when they could have more obscure but equally good songs that you're missing out on but could get from other albums.
This I definitely agree with. I don't like "best of" albums not only because you miss out on some other lesser known songs from artists (I know plenty of artists who my favourite songs would never appear on a collection, for a variety of reasons), but also because, in a lot of cases, songs are put on a particular order on an album for a reason, and the arrangement is part of the presentation. A song can gain a lot of impact when put in the proper context, and lose that impact without it (and this is how you tell a good DJ from a bad DJ).
Of course, I'm the kind of guy who almost always listens to his music album by album, rather than just by picking specific songs, so your mileage may vary.
...I've never been a big fan of "best of" albums as they usually just consist of a band's or artist's most well known songs, when they could have more obscure but equally good songs that you're missing out on but could get from other albums.
This I definitely agree with. I don't like "best of" albums not only because you miss out on some other lesser known songs from artists (I know plenty of artists who my favourite songs would never appear on a collection, for a variety of reasons), but also because, in a lot of cases, songs are put on a particular order on an album for a reason, and the arrangement is part of the presentation. A song can gain a lot of impact when put in the proper context, and lose that impact without it (and this is how you tell a good DJ from a bad DJ).
Of course, I'm the kind of guy who almost always listens to his music album by album, rather than just by picking specific songs, so your mileage may vary.
This is also true, I listen to music album by album as well.
Their first album was pretty solid, but this one just blows it out of the water. If you like alternative rock/pop, you have to listen to this album (The Temper Trap - The Temper Trap).
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I stumbled upon this band by accident on Youtube and I'm amazed that I have't heard of them before now.
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog
