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Laughing God wrote:

p_gray99 wrote:I would also reccomend finding out about the webway: That's one of the most important things about the eldar. That and the paths are the two defining things with craftworld eldar. Well, that, the craftworlds, the psyker-ness, their hiding from She Who Thirsts (known to the imperium as Slaanesh)...

I reccomend PMing people with specific questions: If you ask them on a forum, you'll get a whole load of conflicting and confusing answers. If you want to know about the eldar, find someone with something eldar-y in their signature and avatar, then ask them. If you need to know about Dark Eldar or She Who Thirsts, feel free to ask me (although there's probably better people to trust than one with my avatar).

It isnt just known to the Imperium as Slaanesh... thats his name lol to any race in the galaxy. The other titles (Dark Prince, She who thrists, God of Pleasure, ect) are just that... titles or nicknames.

Well knowing the orks they won't use a word as complicated as "Slaanesh", and I've never heared of the eldar (of any sort) refering to She Who Thirsts in any other way, while the Tau probably don't even know about the chaos gods, never mind calling one of them the same thing as the humans do. So overall, I'd say that it's probable that Slaanesh is more of an imperial word that the thing's true name, although it's the name GW uses most, so I'm fine for people to consider it as the "main" name.

It's actually Slaaneth, but that's more or less just to the Daemons.

Eldar never refer to Slaanesh by name, only as The Great Enemy, She Who Thirsts and others like that.

If I Ever played CSM i would want to be able to get the Chaos Gods

Wait, do you mean get the chaos gods on the table?

Wait, let me reiterate that.

That would be even more OP than fielding primarchs.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:Wait, do you mean get the chaos gods on the table?

Wait, let me reiterate that.

That would be even more OP than fielding primarchs.

Actually its possible, like the C'tan were in the oldcron codex, when the only way to beat them was to deploy another C'tan on the field.

Yeah, but like the C'tan of the oldcrons, the Chaos Gods would be so under-powered to be fielded on the tabletop for anything short of Apocalypse (and there we're talking about something that's probably nigh 10,000 points if not more)

n0t_u wrote:It's actually Slaaneth, but that's more or less just to the Daemons.

Eldar never refer to Slaanesh by name, only as The Great Enemy, She Who Thirsts and others like that.

Most of the references say "She Who Thirsts", some say "The Great Enemy", and as far as I'm aware there aren't very many at all that use any other names. To the eldar the name doesn't matter as much though: they all know who she is, and don't need to use multiple different references to who it is. And given that even a thought of her can send shivers down an eldar's spine, they don't exactly spend hours making up new names.

Yeah, they don't have a name for Slaanesh at all nor will they come up with one.

and why should they worry all they need to worry about is not getting killed by "She Who Thirsts"

Eldar Man wrote:and why should they worry all they need to worry about is not getting killed by "She Who Thirsts"

Their souls are promised to her because the sins they committed as a race was the birth of Slaanesh. Either they A) put their souls in soulstones when they die, and then go on to animate either the collective ''running'' the Craftworld, or maybe the walkers of their armies, or B) they get devoured by Slaanesh. Doesn't matter where they are, or who kills them.

It's called DOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Eldars are the 'WE ARE DOOMED' faction more than any other, it's woven right into every part of their fluff.

oh I didn't know that!

Should also be worth adding that their souls are stuck in those stone until they are put into the infinity circuit later on. So someone does have to collect the stones from the fallen, perhaps they do it as they go or something.

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Unless, of course, they sell their souls to another Power. Khorne would sooner use sorcery than give anything to Slaanesh and make her happy, and Nurgle cares for his children, so an Eldar marked by these two would be pretty safe from Slaanesh. Tzeentch...you'll have to be really useful to keep your soul safe if you're an Eldar.

I'm pretty sure the stone will work still as it just captures their soul upon death.

n0t_u wrote:I'm pretty sure the stone will work still as it just captures their soul upon death.

Apart from that precaution of course.

Wow that's COMPLICATED!!!

Which part?

The whole Spirit Stone Thing??!?

Well, I've yet to hear about chaos corrupted eldar in any recent fluff. There's reference in the Lexicanum saying that some eldar left in the Crone Worlds (the center of their old empire and the place the most destroyed by Slaanesh's birth) became chaos eldar, but I've never seen any other reference to it. It's probably a leftover from previous editions that never got explicitly retconned.

Eldar don't seem to be affected by Chaos the same way humans does. Even their possessed, the Mandrakes, aren't remotely like human possessed.

Hmmmmm.......Chaos Eldar that would be cool!

I thought all the Eldar too close to the center were killed upon the birth of Slaanesh; the shockwave of it ripping their souls out. I guess they could become corrupted, but due to how they live their lives now and the soul stones I think it'd be exceedingly rare.

But still it would be awesome!!!

Eldar Man wrote:But still it would be awesome!!!

That it would...as far as we know, no Eldar has ever bound themselves to another Chaos Power other than Slaanesh, but since all the Powers are more or less equal, not to mention how they interact with each other and their unique traits, its definitely possible that an Eldar bound to another Power would not give said Eldar's soul to Slaanesh.

Eldar Man wrote:The whole Spirit Stone Thing??!?

They wear it from the moment they're born...I think. But I do know for sure that they don't go anywhere without it, and if they ever have to remove it, they put it back on the first chance they get.

Tadashi wrote:That it would...as far as we know, no Eldar has ever bound themselves to another Chaos Power other than Slaanesh, but since all the Powers are more or less equal, not to mention how they interact with each other and their unique traits, its definitely possible that an Eldar bound to another Power would not give said Eldar's soul to Slaanesh.

And would be a good way of pissing of Slaanesh. Kinda surprising there's hasn't been more attempts.
It's the aesthetical part of the Eldar that wouldn't fit with Khorne or Nurgle, as far as I'm concerned. Tzeentchian farseers would make good models, and make perfect sense. You could explain the motivation behind Nurgle's eldar (cheat death as a race) or Khorne's (regain dominion of the stars), but I don't think they would make for cool models... Fat bloated eldars would be almost undistinguishable from plague marines, and Khornate eldar would lack in muscle mass...

n0t_u wrote:I thought all the Eldar too close to the center were killed upon the birth of Slaanesh; the shockwave of it ripping their souls out.

Is what I remember from the latest codex, and why I really doubt Lexicanum as a source on this. Probably a retcon, possibly just bs...

Hmmmmmmm........ Something to think about?

The 2nd Ed Eldar Codex made a brief reference to Eldar champions of chaos (it was just one sentence from what I can remember) so that's probably where Lexicanum is getting it from.

It said that the "Chaos Eldar" where the most terrible of the Dark Gods servants and that they rarely left the Chrone Worlds IIRC

That would be cool!

Lord Rogukiel wrote:Wait, do you mean get the chaos gods on the table?

Wait, let me reiterate that.

That would be even more OP than fielding primarchs.

Malice can actually be summoned directly to the Materium, there's a short story were the Sons of Malice sacrifice a body for him to possess. Or at least I think that's what goes down.

Course he's a lesser Chaos God.

As for "Chaos Eldar", they could exist in fluff. Eldar who have devoted themselves to the other 3 Chaos Gods, who in turn protect their souls from Slaanesh. The Eldar are very, very susceptible to the Chaos Gods beyond Slaanesh. Warriors lost on their Path who can no longer control their "warmask" could easily become crazed Khornate killers, Farseers obsessed with the future and destiny may seek aid from Tzeentch, and with such strong emotions the Eldar can despair with an intensity unseen by the other races and this would appeal to Nurgle.

That being said a "Chaos Eldar" army or the like would be reundant and stupid for GW to implement. We already have Dark Eldar for "evil Eldar" (yes, I know Dark Eldar aren't Chaos Eldar, but the differences on the table would be too subtle to matter).