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n0t_u wrote:I know, just they were sort of as similar as it gets.


Unless its something that happens on frontier worlds beyond the notice of the major galactic powers, with Humans and Xenos living together. Off course, once the Imperium/Chaos/Craftworlds take notice, they get curb stomped.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:
Mahtamori wrote: ...some Eldar have been living as humans for years.




What? Where did this come from? And why would any of them want to live as one of a 'lesser race'?


So that they can breed with humans and have their children grow up to be Ultramarines.

See: RT rulebook pg 177 (The Elar race and the Craft-Worlds)

See also: White Dwarf issue 126 (Epic Knights)

See also: Kaarja Salombar, a character in "The Chapters Due"

See also: The Ultramarine Librarian who was half eldar.... for the life of me I can't find it in all my older books! I know it's there!

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Illiyan Nastase. He was basically a phone that the Ultras happened to use.

Then they retconned it trying to sound fancy by giving the Eldar a higher amount of helices or something in their DNA so that they would no longer be compatible and capable of breeding.

   
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n0t_u wrote:Illiyan Nastase. He was basically a phone that the Ultras happened to use.


Lol...a phone.


Reminds me of Wobbly Models...



Then they retconned it trying to sound fancy by giving the Eldar a higher amount of helices or something in their DNA so that they would no longer be compatible and capable of breeding.


Wasn't that the Orks? And in an interview concerning the new DE Codex, it was stated that 'hybrids' made up the bulk of Commoraghs non-DE population. They're not DE clones, the so-called half-born.

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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:Wasn't that the Orks? And in an interview concerning the new DE Codex, it was stated that 'hybrids' made up the bulk of Commoraghs non-DE population. They're not DE clones, the so-called half-born.


The orks are fungi, so I doubt they were retconned in not being able to breed with humans because of too many helices.

And I think when DE mean hybrid, it's not entirely... natural...

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LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
 LoneLictor wrote:
I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.

Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space.
 
   
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Lord Rogukiel wrote:
Tadashi wrote:Wasn't that the Orks? And in an interview concerning the new DE Codex, it was stated that 'hybrids' made up the bulk of Commoraghs non-DE population. They're not DE clones, the so-called half-born.


The orks are fungi, so I doubt they were retconned in not being able to breed with humans because of too many helices.


Orks have three-strand DNA IIRC: two animal, one fungal.


And I think when DE mean hybrid, it's not entirely... natural...


Not necessarily. No mention was made either way, so its probably best we not set our thinking in stone over the matter.

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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Ok this thread is not about Orks ok so if you don't like it LEAVE!!!

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Eldar Man wrote:Ok this thread is not about Orks ok so if you don't like it LEAVE!!!


Calm down have a piece of

The ork thing was brought on from your discussion, admittedly a bit OT but no need to get aggressive or over-enthusiastic...

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LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
 LoneLictor wrote:
I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.

Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space.
 
   
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Orks don't even have a lot to do with the Eldar. It's not like they interact a lot beyond Eldar assassinating warbosses that feel like messing with the Eldar so people like Gazhkull get into power.

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OkI sorry for over reacting but I hate Orks

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Eldar Man wrote:OkI sorry for over reacting but I hate Orks


Why? They're the most fun race in 40k.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Because they are little more than chav football hooligans.

For that reason alone they should be exterminated.

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
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chromedog wrote:Because they are little more than chav football hooligans.

For that reason alone they should be exterminated.




Good luck with that.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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But seriously what appeal do the Orks Have???

and can you search Eldar Points and go to that thread and help me out

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Eldar Man wrote:But seriously what appeal do the Orks Have???


They're simple-minded, enjoy life, immune to Chaos, invincible, and the most awesome race in the setting.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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They are the comedic relief army, as light hearted as grimdark gets.
As for Eldar it depends on what specific part you want to know.

The War In Heaven
Prefall
The Fall
Dark Kin or Dark Eldar
Craftworld
Exodite
Corsair
Harlequin
Mythology (Cegorach, Yynned, Asuryan, Kaela Mensha Khaine, Isha, Vaul, etc)

All of those should be good points to search for.

   
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n0t_u wrote:They are the comedic relief army, as light hearted as grimdark gets.


With analysis, they're the most grimdark of all races, seeing as they're the only ones who actually enjoy the crapsack world of 40k, and their only purpose is to survive and fight, forever... Which is a guarantee, since nothing can ever wipe out the Orks, and they'll be alive and kicking ass for all time.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:

Good luck with that.


Yeah, well. We all have goals, right? Some of us just like to reach a little further.

Extermination of chavdom is a good thing for the gene pool, after all.



I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
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chromedog wrote:
Tadashi wrote:

Good luck with that.


Yeah, well. We all have goals, right? Some of us just like to reach a little further.

Extermination of chavdom is a good thing for the gene pool, after all.




Trying to exterminate Orks is about as productive as talking to a rock.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:Trying to exterminate Orks is about as productive as talking to a rock.


Are you insulting my other hobby?

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LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
 LoneLictor wrote:
I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.

Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space.
 
   
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Lord Rogukiel wrote:
Tadashi wrote:Trying to exterminate Orks is about as productive as talking to a rock.


Are you insulting my other hobby?


Huh? What in Throne's name are you talking about? You CAN'T exterminate Orks. No one can. The Necron and Eldar Empire's couldn't do it at the height of their power, and even had the Heresy hadn't happened, I doubt the Imperium could have either. For them, survival isn't a question. It's a fact.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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You could actually with enough effort seeing as it is possible for them to die. But, you have to remember they have spread out of the galaxy already.

   
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n0t_u wrote:You could actually with enough effort seeing as it is possible for them to die. But, you have to remember they have spread out of the galaxy already.


They'll just keep coming back. If the Necron Empire/Eldar Empire/old Imperium couldn't do it, the current Imperium, Craftworld Eldar, and even the slowly re-awakening Necrons can't do it. Heck, these guys are holding back an entire Hive Fleet and enjoying it. And when said Hive Fleet has now manifested the Swarm Lord and still can't beat the Orks...you gotta hand it to them, those greenskins are invincible.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:
Lord Rogukiel wrote:
Tadashi wrote:Trying to exterminate Orks is about as productive as talking to a rock.


Are you insulting my other hobby?


Huh? What in Throne's name are you talking about? You CAN'T exterminate Orks. No one can. The Necron and Eldar Empire's couldn't do it at the height of their power, and even had the Heresy hadn't happened, I doubt the Imperium could have either. For them, survival isn't a question. It's a fact.


haha, I meant talking to a rock.

Badly phrased joke, moving on quickly.

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LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
 LoneLictor wrote:
I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.

Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space.
 
   
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Let's see...

Created by old ones to combat the necrons
(By wardian fluff): numbers were too great for the necrons to consider effectively battling them (and the orks) after successfully laying down the pain on the old ones and c'tan so necrons went to sleep allowing the eldar to eventually claim galactic dominance (which we all know is a title that goes to the orks but let dem panzies dink der da bestest fa now, we'll krump'em later )
Eldar eventually fall from properly worshipping their gods into pleasurable decadence which results in the birth of Slaanesh who nom noms a bunch of the eldar as well as all but 3 (well... More like 2.5) of the eldar gods. Craftworld and exodite eldar had already split from their decadent brethren and depending how far they were from their brethren, were safe from getting nomed. Dark eldar had been holed up in commoragh and were also safe from slaanesh's awakening.
From then on, they've been pretty much the same as they are currently in the fluff or so I am led to believe.

Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.

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Ok thanks

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I would also reccomend finding out about the webway: That's one of the most important things about the eldar. That and the paths are the two defining things with craftworld eldar. Well, that, the craftworlds, the psyker-ness, their hiding from She Who Thirsts (known to the imperium as Slaanesh)...

I reccomend PMing people with specific questions: If you ask them on a forum, you'll get a whole load of conflicting and confusing answers. If you want to know about the eldar, find someone with something eldar-y in their signature and avatar, then ask them. If you need to know about Dark Eldar or She Who Thirsts, feel free to ask me (although there's probably better people to trust than one with my avatar).

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Eldar Man wrote:But seriously what appeal do the Orks Have???
They're funny.

In the GrimDark, where everything is such SRS BSNS, the Orks are yukking it up. The worst times in the history of everything are for them a huge party. This is the original, pre Third Edition spirit of 40k.

   
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Manchu wrote:
Eldar Man wrote:But seriously what appeal do the Orks Have???
They're funny.

In the GrimDark, where everything is such SRS BSNS, the Orks are yukking it up. The worst times in the history of everything are for them a huge party. This is the original, pre Third Edition spirit of 40k.
I agree. What part of 40k is funny, save certain ork special rules (e.g. "Faster! Waaagh! Uh oh...") or how they don't know which god it is any of the time?
But no, I understand completely what you mean and I wouldn't want to play with them either.

   
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p_gray99 wrote:I would also reccomend finding out about the webway: That's one of the most important things about the eldar. That and the paths are the two defining things with craftworld eldar. Well, that, the craftworlds, the psyker-ness, their hiding from She Who Thirsts (known to the imperium as Slaanesh)...

I reccomend PMing people with specific questions: If you ask them on a forum, you'll get a whole load of conflicting and confusing answers. If you want to know about the eldar, find someone with something eldar-y in their signature and avatar, then ask them. If you need to know about Dark Eldar or She Who Thirsts, feel free to ask me (although there's probably better people to trust than one with my avatar).

It isnt just known to the Imperium as Slaanesh... thats his name lol to any race in the galaxy. The other titles (Dark Prince, She who thrists, God of Pleasure, ect) are just that... titles or nicknames.

Big fan of eldar fluff, have played eldar/dark eldar/slanneshi themed armies for 6+ years. Best referance is the codexes themselves (all editions) and lexicanum.com IMO for general fluff.

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