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True but Dark Eldar and Eldar can Ally wheras Chaos Eldar Would not Ally with Eldar

Harriticus wrote:

Lord Rogukiel wrote:Wait, do you mean get the chaos gods on the table?

Wait, let me reiterate that.

That would be even more OP than fielding primarchs.

Malice can actually be summoned directly to the Materium, there's a short story were the Sons of Malice sacrifice a body for him to possess. Or at least I think that's what goes down.

Course he's a lesser Chaos God.

They sacrificed the 11 Doomed Ones (pretty much the 11 best Space Marines of their chapter now warband). And yeah, sure he's a lesser god, but a god nonetheless and would be OP for anything short of Apoc as a unit that couldn't be less than 5,000 points.

Ok

Harriticus wrote:That being said a "Chaos Eldar" army or the like would be reundant and stupid for GW to implement. We already have Dark Eldar for "evil Eldar" (yes, I know Dark Eldar aren't Chaos Eldar, but the differences on the table would be too subtle to matter).

That explanation doesn't seem to hold the road, considering that the mention of Chaos Eldar date back to 2nd and Dark Eldar (IIRC) where added on later.

I thought the Dark Eldar were originally Chaos, but were changed or something. Then my knowledge on Dark Eldar is far less than Eldar.

IIRC, the original Evil Eldar were Chaos, but then were retconned into "fallen" eldar who have given in to their perverted desires but are not chaos.

so guys if Eldar souls go to Slaneesh , when how the souls go to the New God that ,when all Eldars die,will kill Slaneesh?

Souls that are captured in Soulstones that are then placed within the Infinity Circuit are the ones that go to Ynnead. That's also where that god currently grows according to their mythology around it.

n0t_u wrote:Souls that are captured in Soulstones that are then placed within the Infinity Circuit are the ones that go to Ynnead. That's also where that god currently grows according to their mythology around it.

But even then, Ynnead has only a fool's hope of beating Slaanesh...I'm pretty sure even Eldrad doubted it could work.

Really interesting!

I must say as long as you can get it close not even Ghazgull Thraka can survive, being doomed while being shot at by guided, bladestorming Dire Avengers. Dire Avengers are a must have, Dire avengers and Striking Scorpions, working alongside a farseer, it is a deadly combination. Also if I were you Eldar Man, I wouldn't listen to Tadashi much as he is a hardcore SM/IOM supporter. From what I have seen anyway.

emphan34 wrote: Also if I were you Eldar Man, I wouldn't listen to Tadashi much as he is a hardcore SM/IOM supporter. From what I have seen anyway.

Not in this thread, I haven't.

Hahahaha OK!

The 3rd edition DE codex still said that the DE could feast on souls, rather than pain making their souls rejuvinated. I think that 3rd wasn't saying that their souls were being sucked away as much, and more hinting that they were very similar to slaanesh, even if them serving her was retconned.

Anyway, on the subject of Chaos Eldar, they can definitely serve a god (see harlequins and exarchs) so I don't see why they couldn't serve a chaos god in a similar way.

True!

n0t_u wrote:I thought the Dark Eldar were originally Chaos, but were changed or something. Then my knowledge on Dark Eldar is far less than Eldar.

i though dark eldar were eldar trapped in warpspace when slaneesh was born

rednecroncryptek wrote:

n0t_u wrote:I thought the Dark Eldar were originally Chaos, but were changed or something. Then my knowledge on Dark Eldar is far less than Eldar.

i though dark eldar were eldar trapped in warpspace when slaneesh was born

I believe they were hiding in Comorragh.

Not so much trapped in warpspace but hidden in the webway. Whilst the webway might run through warpspace, it is separate at the same time..

A pocket of safety inside warpspace - a hyperspace "bubble" so to speak.
The webway has its own defenses against demonic intrusion (the warp spiders after whom the aspect is named) that patch and/or rebuild any breaches like a self-healing membrane.

The webway's the veil between realspace and the void. Think of a planet's atmosphere: The planet is realspace, space is the void, and that amazingly thin bit in the middle is the webway.

Then does a webway gate let you pass between realspace and the void

No.
It lets you pass from one realspace location to another via gates.
Much ilike stargates in SG-1 do.

Eldar do not travel the warp, they travel through realspace at STL speeds, or they utilise large warp gates to move their ships, the craftworlds lumber along.

For an Eldar to travel "naked" into the warp (unprotected by the wards and other protections of the webway), they would be rent asunder and their souls consumed by Slaanesh - as they're on His/Her turf now - and as their souls retain awareness after death, would VERY much feel every second of their consumption. The stones are to keep their souls intact in realspace.

chromedog wrote:

For an Eldar to travel "naked" into the warp (unprotected by the wards and other protections of the webway), they would be rent asunder and their souls consumed by Slaanesh - as they're on His/Her turf now - and as their souls retain awareness after death, would VERY much feel every second of their consumption. The stones are to keep their souls intact in realspace.

Wasn't there a mention somewhere that Eldar aboard Imperial ships can traverse the Warp safely, albeit cowering in terror in the safest area of the ship? I think it was in an RT/BL book somewhere...I'll see if I can find it.

Wouldn't be too surprised, as Imperial ships will still have some defences, however crude in the eldar's eyes.

Gellar Fields maintain some sort of defensive bubble around a vessel while it traverses the Warp. It keeps those inside safe from the Warp... in theory. In truth, Gellar Fields fail all the time and ships are frequently lost in the Warp, but for those that don't have such calamities, a Gellar Field is sufficient to keep daemons away from the crew and passengers, including Eldar.

Tadashi wrote:

chromedog wrote:

For an Eldar to travel "naked" into the warp (unprotected by the wards and other protections of the webway), they would be rent asunder and their souls consumed by Slaanesh - as they're on His/Her turf now - and as their souls retain awareness after death, would VERY much feel every second of their consumption. The stones are to keep their souls intact in realspace.

Wasn't there a mention somewhere that Eldar aboard Imperial ships can traverse the Warp safely, albeit cowering in terror in the safest area of the ship? I think it was in an RT/BL book somewhere...I'll see if I can find it.

Not what I meant by "naked", though. If you travelled into the warp via a breach in the webway, then an eldar would be dead (or worse).
Imperial ships have their own crude wards against the warpspawn - the gellar field. Eldar are still uncomfortable even protected by such a field, as they STILL attract the notice of these entities, and put the fields under even more stress to cope with the more intensive attacks. See the novel "Farseer".

 chromedog wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

chromedog wrote:

For an Eldar to travel "naked" into the warp (unprotected by the wards and other protections of the webway), they would be rent asunder and their souls consumed by Slaanesh - as they're on His/Her turf now - and as their souls retain awareness after death, would VERY much feel every second of their consumption. The stones are to keep their souls intact in realspace.

Wasn't there a mention somewhere that Eldar aboard Imperial ships can traverse the Warp safely, albeit cowering in terror in the safest area of the ship? I think it was in an RT/BL book somewhere...I'll see if I can find it.

Not what I meant by "naked", though. If you travelled into the warp via a breach in the webway, then an eldar would be dead (or worse).
Imperial ships have their own crude wards against the warpspawn - the gellar field. Eldar are still uncomfortable even protected by such a field, as they STILL attract the notice of these entities, and put the fields under even more stress to cope with the more intensive attacks. See the novel "Farseer".

What Novel "Farseer"

BL novel by William King.

"Farseer".


THAT novel "farseer".


Has a stupid human chump (he's a drug addled loser) accompanied by Eldar on an imperial ship as it travels through the warp.

Cool will check it out!

I find with my Eldar, a prism at the back with a wraithlord up front with A farseer/Warlocks is brilliant, but ya can't pass up some delicious fire dragons, using them on tanks is overkill, they are really good against termites with their freakin' 2+ but as for hawks, leave them...unless there's a monolith/Necrons, their grenades work WONDERS, on that subject weapons with similar rules are the D-cannon, Wraithcannon against necrons NEVER pass them up, aswell as Banshees, most things for CC use Delicious Banshees, lighter armored, other Eldar, Chaos Daemons, Guardsmen, etc Scorpions and to make it overkill some Spears, spiders, and a vyper and they can't resist, o3o especially the Prism cannon, my FAVORITE unit of mine o3o

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
Their souls are promised to her because the sins they committed as a race was the birth of Slaanesh. Either they A) put their souls in soulstones when they die, and then go on to animate either the collective ''running'' the Craftworld, or maybe the walkers of their armies, or B) they get devoured by Slaanesh. Doesn't matter where they are, or who kills them.

Unless they're a Solitaire and Cegorach can trick Slaanesh out of his (or her) soul.