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Melissia wrote:Bloodletters have no gender. They are the desire to spill blood put in biological form.

As much as I hate to question the Queen of Fluff, it is arguable whether Bloodletters are even biological. Some variations show them as living, walking monsters made of lava with a stony skin and liquid rock drooling from their snarling mouths.

Just my thoughts.

I think of deamons as a whole lota evil energy, when observed they "become" the very thing that you are afraid of, so Blootletters are the colour of blood.. this we all know BUT!!!, Whos blood? Tau would see them as (possibly) blue, orks would see them as something to hit, Humans see them as Red.

what about Deamonettes? Tau wouldnt find a human attractive.. not enough hooves and then begs the question what if said Tau was gay? well lots of scantily clad half human woman wouldnt be very appealing would it.

So in my opinion Deamons can look like whatever you want them to, yes the chaos gods have there preferences, but the Deamons themselves must Tailer themselves to fight there oponent... after all why would an ork fancy a woman at all??

I actually googled Kali conversion ideas and stumbled upon this thread. But with your thought process, daemons are warp energy and emotion given a physical form in our (the 40k) universe. So their appearance is completely maleable. GW just gives a you the option to buy their "version" of said appearance. That being said, when you make your purchase of the plastic or resin bits you are using just consider putting one of your brutal ladies with a khorne banner so that their can be no question of which chaos god they worship. If you were to ask any GW employee, they would all tell you at the end of the day, "This is your hobby." So one guy who always has new ideas to another, Go for it!

Lost this thread.... In responce to my earlier post (and seeing another chance for shameless self promotion):

Project finished

I always interpreted Khorne's daemonic legions as being more masculine than feminine. Not to start a debate about the social barriers of ones sexuality, but the concept of masculinity and testosterone tend to be more associated with strength and power; one of Khorne's motifs. This could be why Khorne's Daemons tend to be more masculine. Like it or not, most of the mass-killers in history have been men. And a much larger proportion of serial killers and murderers are men. Men seem to be more prone to violence, which is why I think they're more appropriate visages for Khornate Daemons.

That being said, is it possible for Khorne to have feminine daemons? Sure. I do, however, think it's unlikely.

All this being said, most Daemons except for Daemon Princes/Princesses are genderless.

I don't see anything wrong with Khornettes, I think it could make for some awesome conversions and would be a welcome change.

I guess the reason I never really thought about this before is generally that I thought most daemons were genderless or mutated to the point that it no longer mattered or showed (Plaguebearers, Pink Horrors etc)

The only thing that my be tricky is making them a bit different from daemonettes, otherwise you might get the odd question from some of:

'Here, Mate, Why are your daemonettes red, they not supposed to be pink?'

I'd aim for a more beastmen-y sort of look if I was going to attempt this.

Just my 0.02 USD though, good luck to you mate

Potential Spoiler

 Manchu wrote:
You know, I can't believe I didn't already make a "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows" joke.

And now the Bloodtide has a whole new meaning.

Yeah, I've kind of assumed daemons were devoid of gender, but with that in mind, you can represent them however you like, and I think it would be neat. I like looking at female models. So dainty and kawaii :3

Don't daemons change their appearance based on the emotion or suffering of mortals? Or has that been accepted as too confusing, haha?

 DeffDred wrote:
Lost this thread.... In responce to my earlier post (and seeing another chance for shameless self promotion):

Project finished

I imagine Tau could find that attractive, it has hooves and no nose.

These sure make great demonettes at least. Saving the models just in case I start a Slaneshi army.

And I thought this thread was dead...

Very nice picture, DeffDred! Is that your work? I saw that on a few google searches back then.

Heck, it's pretty similar to what I came up with! Especially the skull bra.

I actually made a few test Khornettes back in July, using Warmachine Cryx Raiders and a mix of Daemonette/Bloodletter parts. Yet, hand-sculpting hooves on each didn't go well and I left the ladies to collect dust for a while. Still, will take pics of them today, even if they're WIP. Need to keep the thread alive

Oh, and let me entice you with a little teaser of things to come...

 Rysaer wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with Khornettes, I think it could make for some awesome conversions and would be a welcome change.

I guess the reason I never really thought about this before is generally that I thought most daemons were genderless or mutated to the point that it no longer mattered or showed (Plaguebearers, Pink Horrors etc)

The only thing that my be tricky is making them a bit different from daemonettes, otherwise you might get the odd question from some of:

'Here, Mate, Why are your daemonettes red, they not supposed to be pink?'

I'd aim for a more beastmen-y sort of look if I was going to attempt this.

Just my 0.02 USD though, good luck to you mate

Potential Spoiler

Spoiler:

*Edit* Now that I think about it, didn't there used to be a female slave character in 'Storm of Iron' who used a khornate daemon possesed set of terminator armour and ended up releasing or turning into a bloodthirster/daemon prince type thing or something? My memory is awful/vague since it's been years since I've read it.

as to your spoiler-

I think that trading off Valkia is the best idea, or another Daemon prince(ss). A demon prince would likely have some influence on the physical manifestation of his/her demonic soldiers and so may choose a different look as something more suitable to their whims.

I wouldn't think a Bloodthirster or any 'pure' demon would exactly bother, however.

I always thought Daemons were physicaly represented by what the viewer wanted to see and are actually formlees until given form by the viewer. That is to say, a Bloodthirster looks like a blood thirster because the viewer wants to see a Blood Thirster that way, Screemers look like Screemers becasue thats how you THINK a Screemer should look. Daemons, that is creatures from the warp (Daemons are an arcaic term used by the uneducated and ignorant ) have no gender and again are esentially formless. If two people were to look upon a Daemon word or even the same daemon it would be entirely feesable for them to be seeing two completly different representations of said world or entity. For a gaming perspective it is simply easier to say "This is a blood Thirster, this is a Daemonette " just for the sanity of creating a consitant model range. So is it posible to have Female Blood Letters? Sure but that says something about the person looking at them (perhaps you feel women are blood thirsty monsters?). Women (or posibly even homosexuals) who are being chased by deamonettes may posibly see them as Topless Sweaty well built firefighters with claws, were as a Straight Man or Lesbian may see them as beautiful sirens with exposed breast or what ever their lustful desires conjur up in their mind right before they are orgasmed to death.

So to the OP if you want Female Bloodletters go for it, Chaos is formless and well, Chaotic. Theoretically you could use any model for any Chaos Daemons as long as the weapons are distiguishable and you can separate squads do it up.

Now if you will excuse me I am going to recite the 666 lines of purification and hope I dont get mind wiped!

As promised.

Pardon for the pic being somewhat messy, but I hope you get the idea.

Of course, it's still WIP (and not painted, I just washed them with thinned acetone-based paint to stress the details). And, not, the leader's hands aren't bloodied, I just was too lazy to clean red primer off the bloodletter I scavenged it from

Those look awesome!

makes me want to make demons now.

nicely done!. Fits in well with my daemon princesses =D

Khorne has no effective gender, neither do his bloodletters.


They appear male through our cultural lens, but that is our misconception.

Please don't. For the sake of your own health, don't bring female bloodletters up against another Khorne player. Or wear a cup when you do at least

 TheAngrySquig wrote:
Please don't. For the sake of your own health, don't bring female bloodletters up against another Khorne player. Or wear a cup when you do at least

Because they'll literally turn into a toddler and try and headbutt your junk while screaming about it.

Honestly Go for it, it would be awesome, and its not like we need more sausage fest.

Go for it! As seen through history women can kill just as well as men and even have even formed armies, so why shouldn't there be daemons of carnage taking on the form of women.

One ways to see each daemon is as a soul of a dead worshiper brought back to fight for Khorne once again. Since they could have been female in life, who is to say for certainty that this trait is removed in death.

Last, as others have mentioned, it's your army. You decide how to build it and what is represented how, as long as it isn't too confusing for your opponent.

I just came back from the memphis factory store aka USA GW Headquaters. One of the employees, amazing modeler, named Abe Peterka, does conversions all the time and one of the tale-tell signs it was Abe's work is that there tend to be breasts on models they were not sculpted for. In his defense, the breasts are presented with utmost care for design and scale. Seriously, 35mm breasts are, well I digress.....

Those models make cool Khornate cultists. Not very convincing as daemons though. Chaos gods are created from the raw emotion of all genders, and males tend to be more enraged because of testosterone but both genders have their moments, and certainly can be warlike, so they are part of Khorne.

I picture a daemonette of Khorne would be similar to a bloodletter, some goat or animal legs, small, bare breasts and probably some daemon wings should be part of the picture. Horns growing out of her head, a lot of muscle, red scaly skin like the bloodletter.

 SaintTom wrote:

 TheAngrySquig wrote:
Please don't. For the sake of your own health, don't bring female bloodletters up against another Khorne player. Or wear a cup when you do at least

Because they'll literally turn into a toddler and try and headbutt your junk while screaming about it.

Cancun '94. Some crazy gak went down