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I recently got an itch to make some futuristic civilian vehicles for infinity like games, (in my case an x-com styled near future game) and so drew up the models.

Ive bought and painted models from grendel and anetocis but I wanted more civilian styled/paramilitary/shadow government vehicles at the 28mm scale.

So Im eventually going to 3d print and paint these for myself, but a friend asked for a copy ten was dismayed at the 3d pritning price. So Im curious if there is sufficient interest for a small casting run of 20x or more.

Anyone know of a quality caster (resin) at reasonable rates to do batches of 10x to 50x?

models developed so far are below. The smallest is about 1.5" tall and the largest is about 4.2" long.





and here is an example of the game im planning on incorperating these into.

Awesome concept drawings. And that game board looks very cool as well.

But alas I know not of any casters but I shall be watching with interest as I'd like some shiny new toys!

I'm in the same boat as Emperors_Champion, would definitely be interested in some of these if you are ever able to get them made!

Fabulous looking board as well.. I'm pretty sure I've seen these somewhere before, did you do a rather amusing battle report a while ago on the official forums, with a comic-book style with images from the book and speech bubbles etc ?

Same here - I'd be interested in some of those too!

I love these!

Some of your ideas are already available here. http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/antenocitis/g-o-t-vehicles-1.html

You have some nice ideas though, keep it up!

Captain Jack wrote:Some of your ideas are already available here.

Indeed, I had noted that in line 2 of the post
"Ive bought and painted models from grendel and anetocis but I wanted more civilian styled/paramilitary/shadow government vehicles at the 28mm scale."

I already have a couple of his designs but when I found his only two civi designs of interest to me were perpetually out of stock (over a month of waiting) I did as I often do, I said forget it im making my own. I like several of their military and paramilitary craft, but their pure civi craft are missing something im not sure how to describe, so I decided to start designing. Heck if grendel or anetocis wanted the designs Id happily give them in exchange for a set of casts per design. I just want pretties to paint!

Well, I think it would be amazing to have some more options to choose from!

Re. the Antenociti's out of stock issue, its always worth giving them a call or email. I had the same problem with a terrain piece that was forever out of stock, but called them about it and they were able to sell some (so perhaps cast up some more).

Another thing to note.

Due to Jez (Old Crow) getting a job in movies, he will be reducing the number of models he has available in his range.
He will also no longer have an e-commerce function on the new website - only paypal.

Alllright

Since I did indicate civilian and para-military. Ive started considering how to arm these vehicles.

Suggestions as to what you'd like to see will be seriously considered, barring guns bigger than the vehicle, these are afterall civilian spec and so cant carry a huge load.

Ive started by putting plasma rifles (semi halo style, or blades on the mono bike. Number the vehicles 1-7 starting from smallest to largest. and also suggest mounting point.

Speaking of Halo...Even though this is something smaller than 28mm you could possibly kit bash somehow.

http://www.figures.com/forums/news/15937-mcfarlanes-halo-micro-ops-series-1-hitting-august.html

Any idea when I can buy a fleet of these cars from you?

I did a test printing of 4 of them (1, 2, 3, 7) linearly from the top left in order.

I realized a minor error in 1, but most wont care. Ive also weaponized all of them (70% done on #7)
the following is a list of the vehicles (by number) and what mods ive added.
1. A pair of low slung rifles
2. a sensor suit on the back with rocket launchers (more for hacking nodes than offensive weaponry)
3. A set of grenade launchers on either side (might claim its an absurd high power cannon
4. A single laser cannon on a turret added to the top, like no a hummer.
5. A pair of foldout shield generators on the front and a pair of rifle/cannons high on the sides.
6. a pair of plasma cannons? in the recesses on the front of the door on either side
7. A pair of rail? cannons high on the sides and a single heavy M60 like pulse rifle mounted scorpion style on the back, (its the scorpion mount I havent figured out yet


Right now Im thinking Im just going to 3d print one of each for myself as I can afford it.

I considered a kickstarted to get this line going on a limited run, but have had so few responses to the forums that I doubt a kickstarter would be successful. My origional thought was pledge 15 dollars gets you #1 or #2, (depends on cost estimates) larger gets you the bigger cars, but the goal would have to be such that all cars are manufactured, and to sufficient quantity each to make sure everyone gets the reward their pledge asked for. I thought then that using weapon packs as stretch goals. or even possibly casting some of them in transparent as they would look awesome. Much higher contributions would include me painting one model of your choosing, etc etc.
Ive taken on much bigger projects at work, but I also had a lot more capital to play with.
Also another problem is "advertising" or gauging interest. Im not sure which forums would be optimum to mention this on without irritating the forum owner. IE infinity makes sense, but infinity doesnt want me advertising, un paid, on their site for something like this...

another problem is the number of molds needed to cast something. the small ones can probably get away with a single mold of the part or parts on a sprue. . Thie biggest one, due to the flying fenders, may take 3 or more molds.... that as you can imagine is pricey.


I started weaponizing them thinking that may help, and I wanted paramilitary, but im going to wait a bit longer. BTW 3d printing these is quite expensive due to their volume, even hollowed out, so it really makes sense to do an all or nothing casting run. But as you imagine thats still fairly expensive. Hence the pipedream of doing a kickstarter to help a limited number of people afford it. Still without making a hundred, splitting the cost of a master (which I would have to clean up and polish down before remastering) then casting these brings the total cost of the smallest ones to 10-15 dollars and the big ones 40-80 depending on a variety of factors (and I could be off by a notable percentage). If anyone has any suggestions PM me.

The attached picture shows 4 of my cars, plus 2 scotia and 1 antenociti tank next to a 28mm mini.

Ok here are the weaponized versions of all except #3,

If you're discouraged by lack of interest, note that some of us are just silent admirers. That stiff looks great and absolutely fitting into the 'clean' SciFi universe of Infinity.

Not only that, but they look plausible in the real-world.

To be honest though, I am unsure what the purpose of weaponized civilian vehicles would be aside from some rebel/mercenary Tacticals. It honestly looks like some rich bloke bought a bunch of Ferraris and attached machineguns onto them so they can be used in SpecOps. It's an awesome idea if you're Future James Bond, though.

Either way, the designs are amazing and I especially am in love with the Monowheel Motorcycle.

Absolutionis has the right of it!

I think they right way to go is civilian vehicles - there aren't enough readily available options for terrain/buildings/vehicles that 'fit' with the Infinity Aesthetic.

I know it is hard to judge, but I absolutely think there's a market for this kind of stuff - priced accordingly, of course!

There's got to be a way to make this make sense for you as a producer and us as consumers... right?

Agreed !
And shipping from the USA should be much more reasonable than from the UK ! =P
Any better pictures of #7 ?

Absolutely agree with the above sentiments!

Arguably Infinity places more of an emphasis on terrain than any other game on the market right now. Considering that several other manufacturers seem to exist quite happily on terrain sales in other games, I would say there is definitely a bit of a market there that would benefit from these vehicles.

So in short don't let a lack of response put you off, and go for it!

I'm with them. I'm all for just plain civilian vehicles.

You might want to look into ones that can be both hover and wheeled. Please keep up the work. It's appreciated!

I wouldn't mind one of those buggies on the far left with a weapon mount personally. Would fit right in with the look of a QRF

The one on the far left is a Scotia-grendel buggy (I've got three of them - along with the "not-spinner").
You can get them from them - they aren't expensive - but they are in the UK, so shipping will probably be an issue to anyone in North America.

Im rather surprised more people are interested in non militarized vehicles.
in that vein, two more, the first, pure civilian sci-fi classic (a simple family pod) , the second easily convertible to a heavy weapon carrier.

I really like the second one
Nice job !

I love that family podule! It kind of makes me think of some kind of 24th century Kia Picanto

I have quite a lot of roads on my board though which need filling with vehicles, and it is very difficult to find non-military sci-fi models for that purpose. As such, I'm really looking forward to see what stuff you put on sale here!

What about a high speed train or some sort of futuristic public transport? That stuff makes great terrain. I'd be into that too.

I think we like the non weaponized mainly because one there's not vehicle rules in Infinity right now and they are a bit beyond the scope of play.

 CDK wrote:
What about a high speed train or some sort of futuristic public transport? That stuff makes great terrain. I'd be into that too.

I think we like the non weaponized mainly because one there's not vehicle rules in Infinity right now and they are a bit beyond the scope of play.

+ 1

 CDK wrote:
What about a high speed train or some sort of futuristic public transport? That stuff makes great terrain. I'd be into that too.

Funny you should mention that.... Ive been playing with a couple sketches. But when it comes to trains we are talking really expensive for production. However, I have one sketch that is less high-speed but more "green". Its an idea ive been playing with for months in my annoyance at highway driving to work.
Ill work on it a bit more and see if it seems reasonable. I actually really like this idea just because I think its a problem America needs to come to grips with. Smaller cars are better for many reasons, but public transport, done right, can be a lot better.

Thinking about it more, I wonder if you meant something else. By "that stuf makes great terrain" do you mean you want the troops to be able to enter and clear the train (hollow or Pseudo decked), or you just want a train consuming table space for the sake of prettiness and LOS obstruction.

Well Living near Chicago I know the EL (Elevated train). I can totally see fire fights happening on or around it. In fact I think Carlos of Infinity mentioned in the Interview below, one of the missions was going to be on a train.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nClaC84w7ng&list=UU-aSLyvFLGEmNFcGomzL47w

Nice ! (regarding the train fight)
And that video does not work

I had to do a link instead of imbedded.