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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 03:19:14
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I just got some "show girls" from effigy miniatures. I may use them for scale comparisons on the properly scaled vehicles. I just got Toms permission =)
I have a few recasts by hand with minimal flaws, but its not worth my time to do this so Ill definitly be using a caster for the entire job. But yeay! I have a couple more pod cars, another monobike, and... *secret project for a couple months down the road deleted*
This spin caster has my smaller stuff in his que for master testing, while the resin caster is working on the pod car and *secret project deleted*. Ive a few more masters on order. Im still not sure what scope to make this project. I'm still planning on a kickstarter since the cost of the larger masters is enormous. Feedback on other forums has been sparse or negative so Ive backed off a bit in expectations. Mostly though I'm just waiting on the casters to do their prototype testing so I can get design revision feedback.
And of course, I just found out XCom is being released tomorrow.... drool. I may have to disappear for a month putting the kickstarter on hold for another month. And possibly effectively killing it since I know how forgiving the gaming community is often about delays. Oh well Ill get my cars eventually and maybe sell a few leftovers in any case =)
So, here is a make or break question that I think needs asking.
What do you think people are willing to pay for these models. Cheaper cost means I have to sell more to make a kickstarter successful. I doubt I can sell more than 40 of most of them and I think 20 is more reasonable. 5-10 of the train may be pushing it..
So just to keep it simple with a sample set.
I was recommended not to ask this, but im not one for tact so.... expected cost to pay for the...
monobike
podcar
executive hover
viper sport
street sweeper
train
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 18:13:43
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Been busy in a lot of things but finally got a few of these prototypes some weeks back and cast a pair of each. Then been painting them slowly inbetween life.
Im really excited about the armored train/transport. I cast two yesterday and assembled repulsor rails for one in monorail mode and the other in road skimmer mode. This picture only shows the road skimmer.
These are obviously WIP pictures since most of the cars and miniatures are less than 80% finished.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/29 18:14:32
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 18:31:29
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Note sure how I missed this, but very cool. Looking at the different paint jobs you have done I have to say I much prefer the more subtile look of montone colors. The Front winged bike looks a lot better in that white scheme then the loud earlier version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 19:01:23
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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Lots of awesome stuff in and around that box!
Can't wait to see the Future Train painted up!
So.. any word on price and availability?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/29 21:59:21
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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At the moment im a little torn about any potential kickstarter. Reliablility of resin casters seems to be in question.
I can resin cast these but I sure as heck am not going to do more than 10-20 of a particular model.
Cost of the mold and the large ammount of resin for the train (its partially hollow) looks like 50 dollars to break even on 10x trains, and I suspect that is beyond what most want to pay for a 3 part dropcast model. I would be quite surprised if I sold 10x.
I considered lower costs but the detail level in the rails is making that one of the harder molds. The train itself isnt bad considering the ton of RTV needed to make a stable mold.
As for the rest of them. the spin caster proved reliable for the smaller models but interest in the smaller models seemed low. So all things considered, I started moving forward just making vehicles for myself. I can pressure cast the midsized vehicles and to a reasonable extent the smaller ones, but the train has to be drop cast as I dont have a vibration table. I also have one of the utility vehicles on order.
And as for new designs during thanksgiving vacation I drew up a few more utility style vehicles but havent gotten around to modeling them yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 15:52:53
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Leashed Pupnik
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These are all so insanely good. I really hope you sell them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 18:27:50
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Hacking Shang Jí
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That train looks Awesome! Best of luck for these because I want to see these done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/08 21:12:50
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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another wip
Im dividing my time also between scenery to go with these, hopefuly it wont suck.
The train/transport on the left is in monorail config (80% painted)
the train on the right is in skimmer config (95% painted)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 08:51:55
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Absolutely amazing! You should write to CB about these, I'm not being funny this is the kind of thing that they might even help to promote themselves.
Out of interest, do you have any plans to do some kind of future truck/cab unit atropos907 ? There is nothing like that out there and would love to use something like that to fill up road sections.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 13:56:36
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Pacific wrote:Absolutely amazing! You should write to CB about these, I'm not being funny this is the kind of thing that they might even help to promote themselves.
Out of interest, do you have any plans to do some kind of future truck/cab unit atropos907 ? There is nothing like that out there and would love to use something like that to fill up road sections.
Agreed on all counts!
They might point you in the direction of Micro Arts Studios or something similar, but these are too good to not get made at some point!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 06:58:41
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I hope so too,
But since I cant stop... here is a model for a cargo hauler.
Its designed to fit papercraft sci-fi cargo modules.
Sadly I just looked up tommygun to give a link to his modules that work well with this, but he appears to have closed his website down.
Oh well I can generate some papercrat cargo modules to fit this thing easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 16:59:21
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Mate, that is absolutely perfect for the kind of thing that I'm after..
Put me down for at least 2 or 3 of those if you ever make it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/23 00:19:43
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Ok Finally finished my sci-fi city map. Ill find out in a few weeks how it turns out.
And Ive included a perspective view of my other maps that i use for present day games.
The third map(my first attempt at making a large game mat), the heli-water port is based around a tileable map made buy this guy
http://toposolitario.es/workshop/tableros.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/23 17:39:21
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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Those maps are quite nice too - you sure there's no way for you to figure out some kind of webshop to sell your stuff?
I think you'd do OK at it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 02:33:33
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I finally got a hold of Toposolitario and got his permission to post this for free.
Its an 80MB map half with his work, the tileable map, and part is mine with the helicopter dock and the grass field.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5lzj9q56qwtpq97
I recommend printing it on a vinyl banner, Matte finish. 4' by 8'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 05:15:39
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh cool. I can run a quote with our workshop. Canvas would still run me about 300$, but a vinyl banner might indeed be affordable.
Wouldn't 6' X 4' be enough for most games though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 07:08:58
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Oh cool. I can run a quote with our workshop. Canvas would still run me about 300$, but a vinyl banner might indeed be affordable.
Wouldn't 6' X 4' be enough for most games though?
For most games sure, but My xcom games generally want a longer distance to have more things creeping behind corners. Just ask those who played it. And now with my Sci-fi (may one day when I get off my arse be a kickstarter) cars, its a good size to have vehicles adding chaos to a skirmish or war game!. THese rule mods Im playing with are fun (evil grin at random road rage)
But yea, matte vinyl is often about a hundred or less USD and is fairly robust. Plus I think it takes finer detail printing than canvas, but I have to admit I havent looked into canvas much. This one is printed to 150DPI for 4' by 8'. Feel free to crop or rescale as you see necessary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 16:04:07
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Oh cool. I can run a quote with our workshop. Canvas would still run me about 300$, but a vinyl banner might indeed be affordable.
Wouldn't 6' X 4' be enough for most games though?
Oh!
Let me know what you find out!
I'd love one of those in vinyl, using this pattern as seen here:
http://www.toposolitario.es/workshop/tableros/SueloIndustrial.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/29 20:01:49
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, a friend of mine is also interested in the vinyl, so I'll try to get some quotes. Speaking with my girlfriend, she said that canvas would tend to flake pigments over time because of the rolling, bending and general manipulation.
That second pattern would have to be combined, otherwise the shop won't even fire up the machine for this. But aside from the photoshop time, it shouldn't be too hard.
I'm just wondering how much shipping would cost. If I do print mine, I'll get the friendly disgruntled postal workers to give me a quote for US shipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/29 21:20:56
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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Much appreciated!
I'd love one of these things - it would work perfectly for the Infinity board I have in mind...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/01 03:26:25
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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A few requests for a Pickup or flatbed utility had me modify my utility vehicle as a heavy duty pickup, or possibly dump truck =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/01 05:18:10
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That is a very impressive looking and realistically designed futuristic cargo hauling machine. Well done sir. I would definitely take cover behind that beauty while trying to wipe out my enemies. I will also be backing your kickstarter with killer vehicles like that on offer. Keep up the great work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/01 06:21:18
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Baby steps to the kickstarter.
Here is a WIP of my vehicles, map and a couple corney buildings. One rescaled and modified hangar from RPG vault, a modified 360 that RROD'ed out and is now a multi tier parking platform, and what may become a church (im thinking for Macs just to poke at the nearly cult like following of mac lovers=)
Some of these cars are the wrong scale as they were the first run prototypes (mainly the reclining personal pod car and a couple of the monowheels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/01 22:33:31
Subject: Re:Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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All looks very exciting, and can't wait for some more news on the Kickstarter!
That pickup will also definitely find a place on the road bits of my board!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 22:14:25
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Updates on the Vinyl (vynil?) banner map. If I print three of them, They would end up costing 124,56$ plus shipping. This would include the hard cardboard tube with plastic thingamajigs at the ends so you can tuck it safely away.
At that price, I am not making a cent of personal profit, as these were not made by me, and it wouldn't be in the spirit of things.
Let me know if anyone is interested. The more I order, the less each costs, but I don't think they'll dip much under that. (It's about 10 dollars more if I order only one just for myself.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 23:28:19
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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What pattern are you using again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 23:38:14
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Fixture of Dakka
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The big 8' X 4'. But the quote is really for any mat of that size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 00:00:05
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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So a 4' x 8' mat with (what pattern again?) - I'm very interested!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 00:12:12
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Helipad that has water on one side and hills and a road on the other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 00:20:15
Subject: Infinity and other sci-fi civilian-paramilitary vehicles
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[DCM]
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I'm tempted!
How many commitments do you need in order to make it happen?
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