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thanks Aerethan

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Many thanks for posting these updates, after an extremely useless interaction with "customer support" from army builder I will no longer purchase a license from them and will just manually update


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Why wait for Aerethan when you can get these as soon as they are released?

AB40k no longer slap them up on their site anymore and only available to licenced AB user via auto-update.

Well they missed one thing. Why not check Army Builders own supplements download page -> http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=supplemental_downloads

Scroll down and you'll see 40k 6th ed.
   
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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

ekalther wrote:
Why wait for Aerethan when you can get these as soon as they are released?

AB40k no longer slap them up on their site anymore and only available to licenced AB user via auto-update.

Well they missed one thing. Why not check Army Builders own supplements download page -> http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=supplemental_downloads

Scroll down and you'll see 40k 6th ed.


Those are the exact files that I link to here, and I do them the same day that they are released. I link them here for ease of access to Dakka users. Every single link here I've posted has been from the supplements page.

One reason for this thread is for those without auto update to know when there is an update. They can just exalt or subscribe to the thread and see in the title if there has been an update recently.

I don't claim to have any kind of special access to the files, or some secret source for them. This thread is for convenience only.

But thanks for making it sound like I'm way behind the curve on timely updates.
   
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Forget him, Aerethan. Thanks a bunch for your work - I know it makes things a lot easier for me.
   
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Just want to let you know I appreciate this. It's very easy and convenient to get it here. I check here way more often than wolf lair.

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Same here - there is absolutely NO harm in posting the update links here, and in fact, I find it quite helpful!

So, thanks!
   
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So, just to make sure I am not missing anything here... if I have a licensed copy of AB, then it will autoupdate any 40K game files that are released?

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No, you have to renew your license every year, I think, to auto-update. Otherwise you can still have a legitimate licensed copy but you have to manually update.
   
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 amrogers3 wrote:
So, just to make sure I am not missing anything here... if I have a licensed copy of AB, then it will autoupdate any 40K game files that are released?


Army builder comes with a 1 year license. The ONLY thing that license really does is show that at some point you paid for the software, and it allows you to use Automatic Update on the program.

Once that year expires, you can still use the software for as long as you want. To continue using Auto Update after that year is up, you'll need to renew the license which is like $12 and IMO not worth the money.

You do need a valid license to upgrade to new versions of AB should any be released, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you have to upgrade. I'm still using 3.3 with an expired license because the files I use still support 3.3. If the day comes where those files require 3.4+ then I'll renew my license for it.

Otherwise, you can just update your game files manually which is quite easy, and with threads like this one the files are readily available. I do plan on making a WFB thread for files as soon as there is another update for it.

Understand that an expired license does not take away your ability to use the software ever. The license is just for auto updates.

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its also important to note that your license is ALWAYS 1 year from your date of purchase...so if you buy March 2000, dont renew in March 2001 then wait till Jan 2002 you'll end up paying for another 1 year license which will actually run out in March 2002


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Indeed, I bought my license in September 2010, so if I wanted to renew I'd have to renew 3 years to make up for the last 2 that lapsed.

Which is stupid.

As it stands, I only use 3 game files, and only 2 of those are ever updated(Mordheim is updated perhaps every 6 years, the previous file for it was from 2006). Since 2 files are quite easy to keep track of, I just update manually, checking the files page every couple of days.

I then offer the file links here for sake of ease, as people can just exalt or subscribe to the thread and see rather easily if there is an update in the thread title.

So if you are a regular Dakka browser, you'll always have the updates available here.

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ETA on when the new Chaos Space Marines will be updated into the files?

It will make my life so much easier.......
   
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ETA on when the new Chaos Space Marines will be updated into the files?

It will make my life so much easier.......


The minimum time on the new updates is 1 month after the release date. It can take longer since its done by volunteers and not Lone Wolf. You know this info is covered on the data file's website www.ab40k.org.
   
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Well, the original agreement was 30 days MINIMUM from a books release.

But with GW's shenanigans of late, the file creators don't really need to bend to GW demands. They've had legal counseling on what can be included in the files, hence the "compliance" changes.

The stat lines, names and unit costs are not protected. Names can be trademarked, but that doesn't apply here as there isn't a product using those trademarks in the same market. Stat lines and unit costs are arbitrary numbers without the core rules mechanics which are the only protectable parts of GW games.

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Lewiston, Id

Does any one know if there is a way to add what the special rules say into an army list manually? It seems I'm too slow to figure it out myself

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Probably work

There absolutely is. The problem is that you have to add them back every new revision.

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Honestly the easiest thing I can think of is to make a spreadsheet with all the USR's and what not, then when you have the list printed you just copy and paste the relevant USR's to notepad and print those out.


Not as ideal as AB integration, but less hassle overall.

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1.8 is up.
Lone Wolf Link:
http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=supplemental_downloads

Direct link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/p9tj60qtj3oz5nr/AB40K6v1_08.ab?dl=1

It has some issues with CSM though. They will have to fix those quickly. Chosen equipment seems messed up and their allies are broken. IA units don't show if enabled.

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 daedalus wrote:
There absolutely is. The problem is that you have to add them back every new revision.


I'd still love to know how it's done.. please

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Updated with current version.

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 disel24 wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
There absolutely is. The problem is that you have to add them back every new revision.


I'd still love to know how it's done.. please


Well, you get the ABCreator as part of the package. Use that to open the .dat file of whichever race you wish to edit. Look through the 'items' and 'options', find the entry you want to edit and add notes there! The principle really is as simple as that, but the work involved can take some time. And as has been mentioned, will be written over whenever the files are updated. You really are better off creating an independant reference sheet.

If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!

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Cool so army builder is still going! I thought it was done!

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UltraPrime wrote:

Well, you get the ABCreator as part of the package. Use that to open the .dat file of whichever race you wish to edit. Look through the 'items' and 'options', find the entry you want to edit and add notes there! The principle really is as simple as that, but the work involved can take some time. And as has been mentioned, will be written over whenever the files are updated. You really are better off creating an independant reference sheet.


That's basically the gist of it. I have a background in programming, and I still find that it's sort of an arcane pita to modify. I plusone to the idea of creating your own reference sheet.

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 Aerethan wrote:
Indeed, I bought my license in September 2010, so if I wanted to renew I'd have to renew 3 years to make up for the last 2 that lapsed.

Which is stupid.
You guys make it sound like there some mystical security feature present which prevents you from installing a brand new copy with a brand new license completely unrelated to your old one. I mean, how is AB going to know who you are if you put in a different email address after downloading a copy? It isn't that hard to get a new hotmail account, is it?

 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
 Aerethan wrote:
Indeed, I bought my license in September 2010, so if I wanted to renew I'd have to renew 3 years to make up for the last 2 that lapsed.

Which is stupid.
You guys make it sound like there some mystical security feature present which prevents you from installing a brand new copy with a brand new license completely unrelated to your old one. I mean, how is AB going to know who you are if you put in a different email address after downloading a copy? It isn't that hard to get a new hotmail account, is it?


For $40. The renewal for me would have been $25, so it would have been cheaper. The license fee is $12.5 /year, not $40.

The only real trouble happens if you don't still have an installed copy of 3.3, as you can't download it anymore(not that I could find at least). Meaning that going without a license isn't an option if you don't back up the program.

Fun fact, you don't need to install it. Once you have it installed, you can copy the entire folder and use it on any other computer without reinstalling or updating, though you'll still need to tell it your original license key to get out of demo mode.

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Aerethan, you do always have the ability to download the last licensed version AB. You do the from the support website after viewing your license details. There is a link on that page. This was recently discussed on lonewolfs website as well. Not sure the exact page, but I know they just told someone how to get the latest version they licensed.

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 jlong05 wrote:
Aerethan, you do always have the ability to download the last licensed version AB. You do the from the support website after viewing your license details. There is a link on that page. This was recently discussed on lonewolfs website as well. Not sure the exact page, but I know they just told someone how to get the latest version they licensed.


I wandered that site for about an hour looking for 3.3 and never found it. Every single link to a download took me to the 3.4 file, which doesn't even have any changes from 3.3 for PC.

As it stands, if anyone needs 3.3 I could just compress it and email it to them, but it will only run as demo until you put in your license info.

3.2 was easy to find, which is useless as most data files no longer support 3.2.

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You guys are so awesome! CSM FTW!

Thanks guys, your efforts are really appreciated.
   
 
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