Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Wow...
How much will they cost ?
Just tell me and I'm taking a couple of these right now
Take my money !!!

Is that a fire extinguisher in the troop compartment? If so that's the type of detail that makes this wicked cool.

Will be buying one just to paint up as rodimus prime.

Any chance of getting a scale shot of that next to a leviathan? I can now see a mortis holding a wrecked one of those as a shield as it advances to use its sickle. Heck, my mortis pilot would probably pick up a perfectly fine apc just for fun while advancing.

and suddenly my wallet feels lighter

this is likely very interesting for you APC crazy folks..
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2012/09/this-is-not-your-grandfathers-hanomag.html

Holy crap thats amazingly cool.

For those genestealer cultists out there it would make an epic limo too.

From the extra pics I was wondering how many troopers fit inside, it looks small, but not gw small like a certain apc that should hold ten models the same size as these troopers.

Is there some sort of consolidated price chart for all the various options? Something like:

Crusade Leviathan – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Weapon Arms – $X each.
Trooper Boxes – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Command Squad – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
15mm Crusader – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
15mm Crusader Arms - $X each.
Heavy Troopers – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Heavy Assault Troopers – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Shipping Costs – $X/$Y/$Z.

‘Cause that’d make life much easier, and I’d be able to tell my friend exactly how much to add to his pledge for my stuff.

The APC is awesome!

I want to built a 1:1 version...

Theophony wrote:
From the extra pics I was wondering how many troopers fit inside, it looks small, ...

Are we looking at the same APC here?!!!

It actually looks like it could carry 10 in spades, and to my eyes at least, looks very large in scale...

I've attached a side view of a M113 APC, which carries 2 crew and 11 passengers, for comparison against the side shot of Mark's APC...




Automatically Appended Next Post:

timd wrote:
The APC is awesome!

I want to built a 1:1 version...

Well, if anyone could....it'd be you! Might just have to start pestering you for those metal tank tracks again!

28mm Leviathan Crusader/Mortis:

1 = $89
2 = $165
3 = $240
4 = $300

+ $75 per extra Leviathan after 4

28mm Leviathan Weapon arms:

$25 each

Buy 3 get 1 free

20 man Stormtrooper box:

1 = $39
2 = $69
3 = $88

+ $29.33 per box after 3

(10 man box equipped with rifles = $20)

Support Weapons

1 = $33
2 = $60
3 = $79

+ $26.33 per box after 3

Command Squad:

1 = $30
2 = $57
3 = $75

+ $25 per box after 3

15mm Leviathan/Mortis:

1 = $44
2 = $79
3 = $105

+ $35 per Leviathan after 3

15mm Leviathan Weapon Arms:

$10 each

Buy 3 get 1 free

Heavy Trooper Support

1 = $11
2 = $19
3 = $25

+$8 per box after 3

Heavy Trooper Assault

1 = $11
2 = $19
3 = $25

+$8 per box after 3

Heavy Trooper Core (20 man box)

1 = $42
2 = $75
3 = $99

+$32 per box after 3


Red text are stretch goals not unlocked yet

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is there some sort of consolidated price chart for all the various options? Something like:

Crusade Leviathan – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Weapon Arms – $X each.
Trooper Boxes – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Command Squad – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
15mm Crusader – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
15mm Crusader Arms - $X each.
Heavy Troopers – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Heavy Assault Troopers – x1 = $X, x2 = $Y, and so on.
Shipping Costs – $X/$Y/$Z.

‘Cause that’d make life much easier, and I’d be able to tell my friend exactly how much to add to his pledge for my stuff.

theres an excel spreadsheet you can download from the home page on the kickstarter that should handle what your looking for, though not sure if its been updated with ALL the prices

I did a quick breakdown just above, all the prices are from the KS page.

But yeah the spreadsheet is a helluva lot easier to use as it calculates shipping and shows you freebies. Not sure if its fully up to date though.

@padre. If you go to the link by ironic silence then you'll see some more wip pics. One shows a top down of the crew compartment, but the angle only let's you see some seats, and it looks like possibly 4 to a side.

I see what your saying with the comparison pic, but the soldiers arent wearing fully enclosed armor and the passenger compartment probably doesn't have gravity restraint harness for the troops. Overall size looks immense, but I think Marc has more reinforcements and design features incorporated into his plan than our military ho went to the lowest bidder.

HBMC, here's a cheat sheet based on one from the Kickstarter comments although you probably will need to download the calculator to figure out shipping.

Pledge Cheat Sheet

Full-size Leviathan Crusader/Mortis
Leviathan - $89 per or - $165 (2) - $240 (3)- $300 for 4
Weapons - $25 per or - $75 for 4

4.5" Size Leviathan Crusader/Mortis
Leviathan - $44 per or - $79 (2) - $105 (3)
Weapons - $10 per or - $30 for 4

Troopers
Troopers (box of 20) - $39 per or - $69 for 2 - $88 for 3
Trooper Support Weapons (box of 9 with 3 heavy guns) - $33 per or - $60 for 2 - $79 for 3
Trooper Command (box of 10) - $30 per or - $57 for 2 - $75 for 3
Accessory Pack - $10 (1 comes free with each box of 20 Troopers)

Heavy Troopers
Heavy Assault Troopers (box of 5) - $11 per or - $19 for 2 - $25 for 3
Heavy Support Troopers (box of 5) - $11 per or - $19 for 2 - $25 for 3
Heavy Core Troopers (box of 20) - $42 per or - $75 for 2 - $99 for 3

Shadokesh
Feral with handler (2 figures) - $4 per, maximum of 5 (one comes free with any pledge of $20 or more)

Vehicles
APC - Unknown

Quantity Discount Note: Further models on top of the highest quantity discount cost the same unit price (i.e. a 5th full-size Leviathan would be $75)
Shipping Note: Stage 1 items ship free in the US. However, to have Stage 2 and Stage 3 items shipped separately, there is a $7.00 fee for each stage.

International shipping should be calculated by entering everything you want in the online calculator:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmVlbic3iCLQdERrcC10UTJQQXk4UVB2X0d2NkdjZ1E#gid=0

That is also linked to on the Kickstarter page, I'm not actually sure how to save it. I believe you're supposed to save it to your Desktop first... someone who is international and has used it help me out here

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:
I did a quick breakdown just above, all the prices are from the KS page.

But yeah the spreadsheet is a helluva lot easier to use as it calculates shipping and shows you freebies. Not sure if its fully up to date though.

yep, I win the lazy award while you get the helpful award!

 Padre wrote:

Theophony wrote:
From the extra pics I was wondering how many troopers fit inside, it looks small, ...

Are we looking at the same APC here?!!!

It actually looks like it could carry 10 in spades, and to my eyes at least, looks very large in scale...

I've attached a side view of a M113 APC, which carries 2 crew and 11 passengers, for comparison against the side shot of Mark's APC...




Automatically Appended Next Post:

timd wrote:
The APC is awesome!

I want to built a 1:1 version...

Well, if anyone could....it'd be you! Might just have to start pestering you for those metal tank tracks again!

It fits ten eight in the back and two near the side doors.... I place troops in the seats for a scale check. It's about the size of a Stryker.

do you know how to make a model that isnt awesome? I've got hands fulls of money with your name on them...please take

@theophony: we all do. Welcome to your thirties and beyond.

Mini mortis will indeed be my tipping point for an extra 100$, as well as a command squad box or two.

 ironicsilence wrote:

Also unrelated to the above, I've completely avoided the comments section on the kickstarter, lots of nonsense and negative comments in there.

Never read the comments. Never.

Man, I got ninja'ed by like 10 minutes on the cheat sheet . Hopefully it's helpful, though!

Thanks for the artwork, Mark, you tease

The APC looks good, but I think I'd want to convert mine to have a smaller reactor, like this:

Alex, wow, I Totally agree!

I like the renders, but with the long nose it makes me think too much of the car "Cruella de Vil" in 101 Dalmations... just can't get it out of my mind.

If it looked like the sketch you just showed, I would be 100% for it, though.

I hope others feel this way, too, or maybe Mark just decides the nose is a bit too long and shortens it up a tad

Thanks for the breakdown guys. That helps.

Two last questions:

1. We are 100% sure the buy 3/get 1 free offer for the arms applies to the 15mm models and not just the full scale ones?
2. The 20-man Heavy Trooper ‘Core’ box. Is that completely different to the Heavy Trooper/Heavy Assault Troopers?

First time poster here (although I've been a Dakka reader for a long time now).

I love that APC model. I would buy at least six upon release. After all, the 120+ Eisenkern stormtroopers I've pledged for need to ride in style!

Tannhauser42 wrote:
First time poster here (although I've been a Dakka reader for a long time now).

I love that APC model. I would buy at least six upon release. After all, the 120+ Eisenkern stormtroopers I've pledged for need to ride in style!

welcome aboard! Glad this kickstarter has pushed you towards registration!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Thanks for the breakdown guys. That helps.

Two last questions:

1. We are 100% sure the buy 3/get 1 free offer for the arms applies to the 15mm models and not just the full scale ones?
2. The 20-man Heavy Trooper ‘Core’ box. Is that completely different to the Heavy Trooper/Heavy Assault Troopers?

1. Yes, it's on the graphic and is confirmed so the 15mm weapons are a really great deal at 4 for $30, imo
2. Yes, the Assault Heavy box is just 5 models and they have a pistol and huge sword. The Support Heavy box is also just 5 models and they each have a different, really large gun.

The core Heavy Troopers box of 20 are going to have a mid-sized gun, and hopefully as many options at the lighter troopers box comes with. I.e, lots of extra parts, and the skirting possibly as a removable piece (it won't be removable on the assault or support models, and I don't think they'll come with any extra bits other than the alternate heads, and spare pistol for the assault models).

Well that just seals it. That APC is cats socks or some such silly saying.

I will be pledging closer to the end of the deadline.

What do you guys think? Do I take a chance that at least a third of the heads in the "Zombie Vixens" box are undamaged enough to pass for human once painted, and use eisenkern as troops... or do I wait for Defiance to finally put out their female UAMC?

It would allow me to have zombies too... which is kinda cool.

Mathieu, I'm not really sure what you're asking!

Theophony wrote:
@padre. If you go to the link by ironic silence then you'll see some more wip pics. One shows a top down of the crew compartment, but the angle only let's you see some seats, and it looks like possibly 4 to a side.

I see what your saying with the comparison pic, but the soldiers arent wearing fully enclosed armor and the passenger compartment probably doesn't have gravity restraint harness for the troops. Overall size looks immense, but I think Marc has more reinforcements and design features incorporated into his plan than our military ho went to the lowest bidder.

Fair point! And thanks to Mark for the clarification.

Padre^.