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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
...my pledge didn't quite take me over the $1000 mark as I had expected...

0.o

And I thought my handing $325 to McVey was excessive.

Dang, Mark you got another 100.00 bump in my pledge up to 500.00 now wife may kill me on Sunday. I hope her football team wins maybe she will forget. I m glad that you got everything going I own one of the resin Crusaders casn't wait to get new arms can't wait on the infantry to add to the metals I got from you last time I hope they are not to different.

I do hope there will be more detail work, especially on the front. I am not jumping into APCs right now (I just finished converting my 9th Merkava tank, fer cryin' out loud!) But if they do get a grille and variants, then buying one of them down the road to play Iron-Core will be nice.

Personally, yes, I do cherish the opportunity to get my Leviathans cheaper and before everyone else. Call me a simple guy, I'm satisfied with this. I wear shirts and ties 6 days a week, so even a good quality t-shirt would not have drawn me in (why are t-shirts automatically crappy?) but I suppose that could have been an incentive that would have worked.

What I was really looking forward to was the Iron Core dev. group, and thus get my name to grace the "thank you" page of the book. Hopefully. Translate it in French, in my off time, sure!

I'm not sure I get where the whole capitalist argument was going, but I don't think it was ever meant for that philosophy to preclude either charity or less-than-optimal returns on investment. Backers get what they want. It's like a massive red-paper clip experiment, this KS thingy.


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But I do respect your opinion. You were hoping for something, didn't get it, you pulled your pledge. I think it's super fair. And even if you had not pledged a single dollar, you'd still be entitled to voicing your opinion.

Hi,

I was just looking to ask a question to those of you who have resin kits.

How articulate are the fingers on the Mortis hand/gauntlet? I'd like to model it holding a sword. Would it be possible to make it look good? Or would it end up looking a bit strange at the grip point (like this):

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=contemptor+dread&start=65&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=780&tbm=isch&tbnid=CfFV7Q140jyCWM:&imgrefurl=http://spacewolves13th.blogspot.com/2011/09/contemptor-dread-wip-lone-wolf-and.html&docid=88YsPfjegUWnYM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TCkVwm44fo/Tn4yOwIN2BI/AAAAAAAAHpU/464DJc30sf0/s1600/P9240065.JPG&w=1600&h=1200&ei=Mx9RUMH8AoWW0QXIsoG4AQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=729&vpy=475&dur=1714&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=156&ty=127&sig=115601946004694306889&page=3&tbnh=140&tbnw=187&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:31,s:65,i:103

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and all for $46, where a Land Raider looks to come in at $55
(well converted from the UK price anyway) without any crew

and if that comes with the driver, passenger and 10 crew as Mark was discussing it's a pretty spectacular bargain

Unfortunately, I don't look at the APC and see a cheaper Land Raider, I see a more expensive Rhino. The width and height are about the same, the real difference is the pseudo-251 nose.

 AlexHolker wrote:

Unfortunately, I don't look at the APC and see a cheaper Land Raider, I see a more expensive Rhino. The width and height are about the same, the real difference is the pseudo-251 nose.

But it's so much more AWESOME than a Rhino.

@Breotan
I look at it this way: I'm getting an Imperial Guard army, a Space Marine army, and a Warhound titan of this deal.
And someday I may even get to play the Iron Core game, too.

I have to admit the APC is not all what I had envisioned. The design seems to pull a little to heavily the older aspects and does not have enough sci-fi there to make it an instant buy.

Chances are I will get one anyway and fiddle around with the front a bit to make it more to my liking!

 Commander Cain wrote:
I have to admit the APC is not all what I had envisioned. The design seems to pull a little to heavily the older aspects and does not have enough sci-fi there to make it an instant buy.

Chances are I will get one anyway and fiddle around with the front a bit to make it more to my liking!

I think Mark said that the images he posted are only about 70% complete, so we'll see what kind of extra details he adds.

And a $145K stretch goal has been posted (unless I missed it earlier). At that level, the APC will come with a set of 10 seated troopers.

Well if he shrinks the front just a tiny bit I will have to get one! The 10 seated troopers are a great addition. them along with two crew are an even better incentive to buy one!

The fingers have a great deal of personalization to them.

Upped my pledge by $100 now planning to divide it up as:

3 boxes of stormtroopers
3 extra accessory sprues
7 APCs

Those things are so beautiful to me . And with more details still to be added to the exterior, it's even better. 10 seated troopers should be easy to reach, less than $11K to go and 2 days to reach it, and it's been averaging something close to $10K per day the last few days

 RiTides wrote:
Upped my pledge by $100 now planning to divide it up as:

3 boxes of stormtroopers
3 extra accessory sprues
7 APCs

Those things are so beautiful to me . And with more details still to be added to the exterior, it's even better. 10 seated troopers should be easy to reach, less than $11K to go and 2 days to reach it, and it's been averaging something close to $10K per day the last few days

I find it amusing our quotes are just about the same rate wise, but with such different compositions. I admit I rather /like/ the varied nature of this kickstarter. It's what really makes it worth it.

I think this is my final tally:
2x Crusader Leviathans
4x Weapons Arms (2 HEL lasers, 2 Nova Cannons)
4x Assault Heavy Troopers

Really fighting to talk myself out of an extra $40 for a Valkir unit.

Title updated per Steve's request

Thanks! Mark is too busy making renders etc to update his OP but I bet he will be back on here more often after the campaign ends. 3 strong days could put us in the 170K range (at 135K now, averaging around 10K per day the last 3 days, and usually the last few days pick up the most so if they are 10K as well... it will be great for Dreamforge ).

 ironicsilence wrote:
So I'm going to add a Lev to my Custodes army and my Flesh Tearer army, was thinking of just giving them both Crusaders, however I'm kicking around may be using the mortis for the Flesh Tearers. Just to add a little variety. Any thoughts?

A Mortis would seem a little more apt for FTs. Keep the power fist and add on the assault cannon instead of the scythe. Job done!

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

Unfortunately, I don't look at the APC and see a cheaper Land Raider, I see a more expensive Rhino. The width and height are about the same, the real difference is the pseudo-251 nose.

But it's so much more AWESOME than a Rhino.

Only if I ignore the nose - the back section looks great. If you're looking for a Space Sd.Kfz. 251 for your Space Wehrmacht the vehicle is right up your alley, but I'm not.

If a future faction has an APC or light tank that doesn't devote half the footprint to a WW2 shout-out (especially if it includes a dozen female crew), I'll look at getting that.

Female troops /would/ be awesome. I'd empty my savings account right there.

Also to weigh in on the Leviathan question above. The Mortis is tailor made for Chaos to my eye. I'd ditch the power fist for an assault cannon and keep the scythe though. That bad boy is rule of cool.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

Unfortunately, I don't look at the APC and see a cheaper Land Raider, I see a more expensive Rhino. The width and height are about the same, the real difference is the pseudo-251 nose.

But it's so much more AWESOME than a Rhino.

Only if I ignore the nose - the back section looks great. If you're looking for a Space Sd.Kfz. 251 for your Space Wehrmacht the vehicle is right up your alley, but I'm not.

If a future faction has an APC or light tank that doesn't devote half the footprint to a WW2 shout-out (especially if it includes a dozen female crew), I'll look at getting that.

Of course it's more awesome than a Rhino. You can get 10 troops inside it, try that in a Rhino! And all for the equivalent of £26, so it's only just more expensive than a Rhino, but you get so much more than a rhino. In fact, with the roof mount, it's fairer to say it's a HB Razorback equivalent, which means you are paying £1 for at least 400% more Awesome.

OK, it may be less awesome if you are buying to put it into a WH40K game, but for Iron Core, what more could you ask? (Different turrets, or a turret ring that accepts the weapoons from the support weapons set, maybe?)

Have to stop myself refreshing this page, the Kickstarter one, and Kicktraq . I am going to go ahead and predict an ending value of $160-$165K... a rate of $8K a day would hit the lower of those two, and we've been above that rate for the last 3 days (although with some sweet reveals to boost things, too). If anything, maybe it will go higher, but I think that range is a safe bet with how it's been progressing.

I hope this oes all the way to it's highest current projection of almost $180K, and yes, I've just upped my pledge (Slightly) to include 2 APCs for the 20 man squad I already had. Shame I had to remove some arms and stuff, but it was the only way I could have afforded it. (And now I have a perfect excuse to keep an eye on Iron Core when it goes retail. I will end up with the things I have had to drop!)

Agreed!

And made the last change to my pledge, I'm committing! Dropped 2 APCs but added in 3 sets of support weapons (as those will come out much sooner, and I want them now so I have something to shoot with!). Total is almost identical to what it was before, just a few dollars more...

So now I'm at:

3 boxes of stormtroopers
3 boxes of support weapons
4 extra acessory sprues
5 APCs (+$7.00 shipping fee to come separate from the rest)

I'm with you guys my finally talley:
2 squads of stormtroopers
1 support weapons squad
1 Crusader/ Nova/Hel cannons
1mini crusader/nova/mauler
1 command squad
2 heavy support squads
2 heavy assault squads
2 heavy valkir squads
2 apcs
and no more my wallet needs cpr.lol

Oh yes, my final tally.

Boots on the Ground (1 squad of 20)
Serious Stompin (Single Crusader)

Paired Beowolf/Grendels
Paired HELs

and a pair of APCs

I'll get the Mortis, Mauler Claws, Nova Cannon, and Ripper Saw, Support weapons, command squad, Valkir, heavy weapons, and assault retail when I have more money. In fact, it's a shame as I'm looking at an extra input of cash in October for the overtime I have been working this month.

I'm personally in for a bit less, I see. Good, I can always tell people that I'm not as crazy as *those* guys.

1 28mm Leviathan
3 28mm arms
2 15mm Mortis
4 15mm arms
20 Stormtroopers
20 Valkir
10 Heavy Assault.
3 extra Shadokesh sets.

Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Mathieu, you did read that the 28mm arms are "Buy 3, get 1 free" didn't you? That's why I got 4 of them!

Indeed!

What's crazy to me is that people are walking away from this with (to use someone above as an example) 160 or so infantry models of a very high quality for $160 (not counting support weapon squad for either of those totals)

That's INSANE! and awesome!

Almost more awesome then titan sized models for 1/5 of what most other giant robot manufacturers sell them for.

Nice final tallies lads

Will be looking to trade my 3 quad gun support weapons for 3 anti-tank ones, btw. Highly prefer to do it as a single trade (so with someone else getting 3 sets) and hopefully in the US. If interested, please PM me

I imagine some folks may want to work out swaps for the different heavy trooper support weapons, too.

My tally:

2 Crusaders
+ 2 (free) Capaciitor Coolers
+ 2 (free) Swords
+ 2 (free) Vulcans
+ 2 HEL Cannons
+ 2 (1 is free) Nova Cannons

1 half-platoon of Stormtroopers (20)
+ 1 (free) accessory sprue

2 Heavy weapon squads

1 Command Squad

5 APCs

+ International shipping, and the ship when ready option. Totals to 771 USD and my wallet has thus left the building in a suicide jump.

Looks like a good range of choices . Only bummer is the international shipping, but I think that's a killer no matter what with these kinds of things.

I actually love the APC. Im not a fan of the current trend to pack every square millimeter of a mini/model with "detail", it tends to make them too busy. Also, this is a (light) armor unit, so there will be flat featureless panels. Maybe a couple panel lines to break the bigger areas up a bit and it will be golden.